Super summary, in conclusion:
1. HPBCD DMT Ayahuasca & oral trip report
2. On the importance of THH (tetrahydroharmine) 2nd highest ingredient in true Caapi-based traditional Ayahuasca.
3. Example of the importance of THH to the journey, brightly colored snake visions.
4. Why DMT freebase and DMT salts used orally never seem to reach beyond a mild +3 while oral HPBCD DMT easily reaches a +5 Shulgin strength.
5. Want to extend the journey?
Page 3 post #53: How HPBCD DMT was discovered with the help of Ayahuasca, encounters with death & depression.
(1) HPBCD DMT AYAHUASCA:
My 2 cents is that I have tetrahydroharmine I made myself that is 10 years old, and it still glows blue under blacklight when smeared on a plate using a wet cue tip, never had it degrade back to harmaline. It is very stable in my experience. This THH was stored at room temp in a drawer. It's not hard to make sure all your harmaline converts 100% to THH, just follow instructions on post #12.
I believe many will find the sublingual sting from HPBCD DMT too much to tolerate, therefore I suggest just using the HPBCD DMT orally (it is many factors stronger than dmt freebase and dmt salts used orally in my experience, and I've taken Ayahuasca over 80 times now) by combining it with 200mg harmine and an amount of THH around 150mg to begin in a simple 1oz hot water tea. The 1oz tea goes down in 1 gulp and there is virtually no taste at all, as the HPBCD helps mask the freebase encapsulated DMT quite well. There is also no nausea, it's super-strong and all-encompassing just like the Hawaiian leaf...it's very clean!
When you add your spoon full of HPBCD DMT to the 1oz hot water in the coffee mug, it will turn 100% clear when it hits the hot water.
(1) What I like to do if I am "on the go" and intend to take the Ayahuasca out in nature, is add the spoon full of HPBCD complexed DMT to 1oz of very hot black coffee along with the harmine and THH, mix it all together with added 100mg of crushed vit C to help the harmalas dissolve should they be in freebase form, and store this 1oz "super Ayahuasca coffee" in a "redson mini 7oz stainless steel water bottle" which retails for price of movie ticket, it will stay hot for a long time until ready to drink. There is no nausea and great for outdoors in nature.
You can also get by with less harmine: I would recommend using 2.0mg/kg of your bodyweight in harmine just as Jonathan Ott uses, this means 180mg harmine if you weigh 200 pounds (90 kg), or only 160mg harmine if you weigh 176 pounds.
It may even be possible to get by using only 120mg harmine fb (1.5mg/kg) if you weigh 80kg or 176lbs, see experiment #12 from Jonathan Ott below. He weighs 80kg. I will be looking into this. This would mean only 135mg harmine fb if you weigh 200lbs (90kg).
HPBCD DMT is many factors stronger & all encompassing than normal DMT freebase or DMT salts, less harmine may work to activate it. Experiment starting with 180mg harmine fb if you weigh 200lbs (160mg if you weigh 176lbs), and work your way down if you want to 135mg harmine fb if you weigh 200lbs (120mg if you weigh 176lbs).
Moderate and Strong activating amounts of harmine (pg 250 of 639): "Pharmacotheon: Entheogenic drugs, their plant sources & history" by Jonathan Ott:
Quote:For Experiment 12, I increased the qty of harmine base to 120mg (1.5mg per kg), and ingested this along with 35mg DMT free-base. By 45 minutes after ingestion,it was obvious the dose was psychoptic, and I experienced a distinct DMT effect building to a peak at 1:05 after ingestion and maintaining a plateau until 1:50, with the effects largely dissipated by 3 hours after ingestion. This experience was of comparable intensity to EXPERIMENT 6 involving ingestion of a similar amount of DMT (30mg; 0.38mg/kg) with extract of 4g of harmel seeds, and we may conclude that 120mg of harmine (1.5mg/kg) will effect sufficient in vivo MAO-inhibition to render DMT active orally with a longer duration and about half the potency of inhaled DMT vapor.
To confirm these results, I decided to make another experiment with the harmine/DMT combinations, slightly increasing the amounts of both compounds. Accordingly, I prepared a capsule containing 160mg of harmine base (2.0mg/kg) and 40mg DMT base (0.5mg/kg).
This capsule of 160mg harmine base and 40mg DMT base was ingested in EXPERIMENT 13 and indeed provoked a proportionally stronger DMT effect with the first effects felt in 20 minutes, building to a peak by 1:30 after ingestion with a plateau until 2:40, and clearly diminishing effects at 3:00 after ingestion. By 4:00 after ingestion there were no effects, nor after-effects. All in all, the experience was quite pleasant and similar to EXPERIMENT 3 in Ecuador with about 50 leaves of DMT-containing Psychotria viridis per dose.
If the harmine and THH are in freebase form, then simply just add 100mg or so of crushed vitamin C to help them absorb into the hot water tea, simply consume this 1oz hot tea with mixed 3 ingredients all at the exact same time just as the Shaman's do. I have had extremely powerful experiences with zero nausea this way that are identical to using from 30 to 40g of hawaiian psychotria, which has become extinct over the last 3 years due to diversion to the numerous Ayahuasca centers in South America. I have found this tea to be at zero nausea whereas the psychotria tea can be heavy on the stomach for some time while it absorbs.
70mg DMT complexed to 490mg HPBCD oral Ayahuasca report, +5 Shulgin scale
The HPBCD complexed DMT experiment was a success...I took the 70mg DMT complexed to 490mg of plain HPBCD all kneaded/scraped/crushed using end of another spoon...and mixed on a spoon for 2 minutes with 0.500 milliliter of VERY HOT near boiling water (around 10 drops of water). What I do is heat up a bit of water in a coffee cup in microwave & draw up drops of it using pipette.
I read using very hot water speeds & aids the mixing of the HPBCD to host drug. Be sure to use your muscles to crush, mash & scrape the HPBCD into the freebase DMT back and forth really hard in the 10 drops near boiling hot water using the end of another spoon for 2 minutes, as mixing or stirring alone is not good enough. Kneading is how scientist prepare these complexes, see pic7 Ofloxacin study. You can only use DMT freebase, only the freebase is able to complex or trap itself inside the inner hydrophobic (water-fearing) HPBCD cavity.
Use 1:7 gram ratio DMT to HPBCD or 1:8 gram ratio if using the more common 2-hydroxy PBCD, this keeps the HPBCD to DMT at a 1:1 molar ratio. You can order 1 kilogram of the plain HPBCD from China for price of 4 movie tickets, it will last a lifetime for you and your friends.
I added the 0.5ml spoon full HPBCD DMT solution to 2oz of 120 degree hot water...this then immediately turned into 100% transparent water when it hit the hot liquid in the pyrex cup...This was stored in fridge until use...then when I was ready, the 2oz clear transparent liquid HPBCD DMT water solution, once re-heated up in pyrex pot on stove, to this was then added 200mg harmine + 250mg THH and also 150mg of pure ascorbic acid (vit C) to help dissolve the freebase harmine + thh.
I gulped it down in one shot...there was virtually no taste! I think the HPBCD completely masked the taste of the nasty DMT...I was shocked...took it all together at same time at 3:30, I'm writing this 3 hours later.
It came on exactly like 30 grams of hawaiian psychotria! there was no difference between this and the leaf brew, again I was shocked...it gripped me powerfully, heavy tryptamine buzz and high frequency. The THH already imparts a body frequency buzz + DMT tryptamine buzz = amazing amplified body frequency.
A vibrating neon colored fortress like a magnetic field surrounded me in the room, it shined off of every object similar to a UV blacklight glow...this neon visual vibration appeared all around me, given off by everything around me. The vibrational frequency field reminded me of the tractor beam in Star Trek when they would transport. I've experienced this same phenomena with past journeys involving 30 to 35 grams of potent Hawaiian psychotria...but never with plain freebase DMT or DMT salts before, only again with this HPBCD DMT.
I had to remain in one spot sitting as it was so strong for 1 hour straight, the walls in the room filled with 3-D ish like honeycomb orange & brown geometrics that appeared to bulge slightly off the surface, like the inside of a bee hive, neon colors were abundant, heavy tracers...the beauty all around me was infinite, beautiful CEV's (spinning and dancing or constantly morphing geometrics) and OEV...I was amazed to say the least.
In conclusion, I am impressed with this route of administration via sublingual or oral.
During the oral Ayahuasca journey (200mg harmine + 250mg THH + 70mg DMT complexed to 490mg HPBCD) for the first hour, all objects glowed or shined as if in caught in a neon colored magnetic transporter beam.
(2) On the importance of tetrahydroharmine (THH):
1. Part 10 of this paper: shows how to convert harmaline to pure THH in 1.5 hour for the first time (very fast) with 75% yield. TIHKAL THH entry also achieved 75% yield. Post also shows how to check the blue glow under blacklight to make sure it is pure. Any green in the glow means you still have un-converted harmaline, but follow instructions and you won't have any unconverted. It is the 2nd highest ingredient in Caapi based true Ayahuasca.
2. Dennis Mckenna Ph.D: page 115 "Thus, tetrahydroharmine may prolong the half-life of DMT by blocking it's intraneuronal uptake, and hence, its inactivation by MAO, localized in mitochondria within the neuron." In my experience, THH doubles the half-life of DMT, so when used sublingually or orally, you get a full strong 90 minutes out of it with long afterglow.
3. DMT only colors are subdued and dark, but THH brightens the DMT visuals: out of this world impossible bright neon colors are a trait of high dose oral tetrahydroharmine + moderate dose 60 to 70mg+ sublingual or oral HPBCD DMT: neon red-greens, neon orange-blues, neon purple-yellows.
4. DMT does not block serotonin on it's own, but THH does...this results in not only stimulation but euphoria in combo with the DMT: and real Ayahuasca visions become apparent...important teamwork. Ibogaine, LSD, mescaline, shrooms, 5-meo-dmt, bufotenin in Amazonian snuffs, all block serotonin, THH blocks serotonin.
5. THH has numerous similarities to mescaline, not only does it block serotonin like mescaline, LSD & shrooms, but it agonizes all 3 adrenal receptors just like mescaline, which are associated with beauty & aesthetics appreciation, beauty enhancement is "over the top" when THH is included. Actresses on TV will look like dazzling glowing super-colorful cartoon versions of themselves (just like with high dose cactus tea) only if you include the THH. Researchers have called THH the "tryptamine of the beta-carboline world" and rightly so.
6. THH is found in average 150mg in a cup of Caapi based Ayahuasca tea, when 2 cups are drank by some of the more advanced members for evening at the vegetals (UDV, Santo Daime, Shuar Indian) people are consuming around 300mg of THH.
7. Music will only sound bad-ass incredible if you include from 150mg to 300mg oral THH with your sublingual or oral DMT.
professor8 (found here from 11/1/2010 he writes like a poet w/special powers of imagination & expression):
Quote:Tetrahydroharmine (THH) has the ability to raise your vibration in a most powerful, yet subtle way. It brings a crystalline prismy texture to spice and adds a super clear watery dimension to Aya, like looking down through 10meters of shimmering Caribbean Sea on clear blue day. It brings a dimension of pure light to the entheogenic experience and encourages entities & intelligences of only the Highest Order. If one is not accustomed to perceiving these experiences with a spiritual perspective most of the nuances & subtleties THH brings on are overlooked and remain unseen and one would better enjoy Harmaline as a house painter chooses a roller over a brush, its about preference & choice.
At 300mg of THH all by itself, there are heavy open-eyed tracers like lightening flashes, and hours of closed eye visions that start with colored sparkles and fireworks (red, green, yellow, blue) that dart around and progress into full-fledged way-beyond 4k visions with eyes closed that are not only static but often animated like slow and high speed movies, but all one monochrome color like green or blue for me, when you add DMT, the visions then become colored and patterning on animals for example will display their associated colors, DMT also adds on to or builds on top the THH visions, expanding them, but the teachings and insights & visions are credited to the Vine, just as Gayle Highpine writes in linked paper.
300mg Tetrahydroharmine (THH) teaching visions all by itself:
At 9pm on one night, took another 100mg of THH, for a total of 350mg of THH for afternoon & night, before I fell asleep, I watched dream-like monochrome imagery (usually always in green or blue for me) as the THH was still working...for around 45 minutes I viewed mind-blowing vistas--grand architecture and cities, a bookshelf full of ancient books, a view of the gardens in front of what looked like Versailles, France.
I traveled down a street in Midieval period where I saw beautiful women walking along the street, I could make out the houses & markets along the street. Many of these visions are like slow speed movies being played, way beyond 4k, highly detailed...true Ayahuasca visions...this always happens when I take at least 300mg or more of tetrahydroharmine during the late afternoon/early night. This is one of the best parts of the journey imho.
I've taken 300mg of THH on it's own many times and for hours with eyes closed I view endless dream-like visions, like slow and high speed movies being played for 2 hours...totally unlike normal dreams, she seems to tap into the "Akashic record" of the universe, the ether where all events, past, present, and future are stored...she shows you artwork, architecture, nature, culture, fantasy, history, the future, spiritual, supernatural. The visions are also characterized by the extraordinary beauty that they manifest.
Tetrahydroharmine was called by one researcher "the tryptamine of the beta-carboline world" to give an example of her remarkable visionary properties. She is an isomer of a hormonal-like compound found in the brain naturally, she is what gives Ayahuasca her telapathine or telethapy properties and CEV dream-like visionary power.
I agree that 300mg THH in Caapi is just as visual as 100mg harmaline (as reported in TIHKAL), but without the nausea and dizziness, but it's not especially visual until say 250 to 300mg, then it gives one 1.5 to 2 hours of incredible closed eye realistic visions, this places it very high on the "psychedelic periodic table" for visions compared to just about any other entheogen.
It's like entering a university, she teaches you for hours with not only sequential visions one after another, but visions seen in continuous slow and high speed movies. She tells you a story for a long period. There is a theme to it all each time, the beautiful visions never repeat session to session. I only rarely go beyond 300mg THH, as a little dizziness sets in above 300mg for sure. No dizziness at 250mg, only a tiny bit at 300mg.
Several weeks ago, after drinking 300mg tetrahydroharmine, I saw the interior decorations of palaces, the checkered floors, the beautiful windows and furniture, the winding stair cases, I was blown away.
I've seen sacred temples for religious worship, beautiful animals and super fine women, birds of all kinds, even the lost city of Atlantis, I was taken in for a bird's eye view, zooming in from way above to all the way down into the city center.
Caapi tells a story when you drink it with eyes closed, she teaches you things, the most beautiful "realistic visions" that no other entheogen comes close to showing you, these realistic visions go on forever with Caapi, I can recline and watch for 2 hours or more the visions, the visions are quite powerful for the first 45 minutes. You can take additional THH hours later to bring back the visions again for another 45 minutes, the doses are additive.
(3) Example of the importance of THH to the journey, brightly colored snake visions:
From 5-19-21: 60mg DMT complexed to 420mg HPBCD sublingual report dosed x 3 times every 1.5 hour
Full Journey trip report:
Keep in mind using DMT salts sublingually does not work. The HPBCD complexed DMT works extremely well, the outer water soluble sugary like tasting HPBCD keeps the freebase DMT trapped inside it's non-polar cone, so as the complex sits under the tongue for 15 minutes...
...you feel a mild to moderate sting for around 15 minutes as the HPBCD releases the DMT directly into the bloodstream from the mucosa membrane under the tongue (only 100 microns thick) as the freebase, only as the freebase will it reach from the bloodstream to the brain with maximum effects. I don't have all the answers, I only know it works extremely well. The tongue is completely fine after, and it's as if nothing happened the next day, 100% no scarring or burning, totally normal.
Be sure to press down with tongue the whole time to trap the sticky complex in the sublingual mucosa.
Give this a try...follow 2 step instructions, 60mg DMT complexed to 420mg HPBCD (use 480mg if using the 2-hydroxy PBCD) with 2 minutes stirring, mashing & kneading all of it hard (to force the DMT into the tornado like HPBCD cone) using your muscles on a spoon with 10 drops very hot water, put bottom of tongue on to spoon, it will all adhere...and hold for 15 minutes in the sublingual mucosa, begins to work in 22 minutes...at the end of the 15 minutes, I spit out any saliva that's collected in mouth into a cup instead of swallowing, for me this has been less than 1/4oz or around less than 15ml saliva. As I gently spit out the saliva, I will keep any tiny residual amount still trapped or pressed down under tongue for another 5 minutes usually, but I have noticed most of the time, it all dissolves within 15 minutes.
...and is VERY STRONG...I experienced 90 minutes of very strong effects, pupil dilation maxed out, strong tryptamine body buzz high frequency, heavy CEV imagery, open eyed beauty profound, music sounds incredible...feels identical to if I had taken 60mg DMT complexed to HPBCD orally with 200mg harmine with 300mg THH, of course I always take 300mg THH orally any time I do this using the sublingual DMT.
I recommend not using more than 250mg of THH if it is your first time. 250mg of THH causes zero dizziness and ZERO nausea, but 300mg will cause a tiny bit of dizziness for a short time if you are not used to it. I am used to it, so I get no dizziness at 300mg.
The effects were so INCREDIBLE, I RE-DOSED 60mg of DMT complexed to 420mg HPBCD x two more times the same night, every 1.5 hours...it was the bomb...I was in 7th heaven.
...never before have I had such insane visuals all night long...all the way till 5am in the morning I was seeing closed eye visions of slow and high speed movies...I saw brightly colored serpents, dungeons I traveled thru, many Mesoamerican pyramids, women of incredible beauty, Japanese landscapes, dancing geometrics, many different animals on a rotating globe, walking on the planet-like globe as it spun, hundreds of visions like slow and high-speed movies over the course of many hours.
I saw the interiors of many magnificent homes, exposed like a camera flash went off, then off to the next home interior, bizarre alien looking creatures, I saw ancient ruins but they were seen as they were before they fell apart. All sorts of architectural wonders appeared that I could not make out exactly what time period they were from.
All the visions were enchanting & manifested incredible beauty. The multi-colored beautiful serpents kept appearing several times in different forms, as if they have some prominence to do with it all, two of them had shining skin covered in gold scales and intertwined like DNA, reminds me of the Aztec quetzalcoatl myth, the "serpent of precious feathers."
...all of these visions were brightly colored due to the DMT and THH combo all night long..it was one of the most powerful psychedelic experiences of my life...and I've taken Ayahuasca x 70 times, cactus 200 times, etc...I have never had over 5 hours of non-stop CEV visions anything close to what I saw the other night...I was blown away, and will be thinking about this for a very long time...this sublingual DMT along with 300mg THH taken orally 1 hour before is my absolute favorite...there is no nausea...I wore headphones and listened to music the whole time, as the music sounded just like if I had taken a very strong cactus tea...out of this world good...I had non-stop closed eye visions all night long, insane visions...totally blown away.
Remember, I took 300mg of THH once early on, then every 1.5 hour I took 60mg of DMT complexed to 420mg of HPBCD sticky liquid under my tongue for 15 minutes held...so I took it x 3 times...one of the most visionary entheogenic experiences of my life.
The visions inspired me to buy a book on the Aztec myth of "Quetzalcoatl, the serpent of precious feathers", as I feel somehow this entity is a "teacher to mankind". I saw the brightly colored serpents many times in the 5 hours of visions, and now I understand why they are so commonly reported in Ayahuasca journeys.
They seem to possess divine knowledge that humans were not supposed to have been privileged to, but the serpents gifted this knowledge to humankind.
I recently found a 1.5 hour video on Amazon prime entitled "Ancient Alien Origins" which is all about this ancient alien flying serpent or dragon entity which is found in all religions of the world & "BAM, Builders of the Ancient Mysteries".
Return of the Serpent & of Eden:
https://earthmedicine201...of-the-serpent-of-eden/
hxxps://earthmedicine2015.wordpress.com/2016/01/29/return-of-the-serpent-of-eden/
(4) HPBCD DMT outperforms freebase DMT and DMT salts used orally in Ayahuasca tea by many factors
Years ago, I took DMT freebase (70 to 120mg) with harmine and THH pharmahuasca at least a dozen times, and found it mild at best (on a Shulgin scale of 1 to 5, they were all +3 experiences). I even tried to dissolve it into coca cola and citric acid in hot water to make it absorb better as the salt, but it only slightly increased the strength.
After that I switched to taking 30 to 35 grams of Hawaiian psychotria boiled down to a couple oz, then added the harmine + thh to the 2oz of hot pychotria tea....well that blew my mind CONSISTENTLY for many years, as I continued to use it over 65 times! Most of the experiences were +4 to +5, very strong indeed, much stronger than the freebase used dmt.
This agrees with what I read from clearlight:
Quote:Clearlight experiments that involved several people found the leaf brew form superior to extracted actives, they found the leaf brews very strong and powerful & clairavoyant (+5 Shulgin scale), while they mentioned that the extracted actives were mild (+3 Shulgin scale) at best, even up to 100mg. Again, this is poorly understood.
Even Jonathan Ott found that in his 20 experiments posted in his book "Ayahuasca Analogues", that none of his later experiments with extracted actives quite matched the power of his 1st actual Ayahuasca brewed with caapi and good real leaf (experiment #1), he had no explanation for this. He did however find 70mg to be close to it, but still not the same.
From "Articulations, On the Utilisation and Meanings of Psychedelics" (2015) by Julian Palmer:
Quote:Modern day researchers, spearheaded by people such as myself, have realized that Jonathan Ott's calculations fall short of what most explorers need for a truly visionary experience. Even with a strong harmine/Banisteriopsis caapi dosage, 30-60mg of dmt is not sufficient to produce significant visionary effects in most people. So if fact, a dosage of 30-40mg of dmt is where tryptamine-like effects just begin to occur for most people, and 10-25mg dmt is not really noticeable above the gentle psychoactive effects of the harmine.
Each person is different and for some rare individuals, 30-40mg may be about as much dmt as they wish to take--but most people need at least 60-80mg for sufficient psychoactive effects and even at this dosage, you generally cannot expect a full-blown visionary experience, even when using a strong dose of 4 grams of syrian rue or 100 grams of strong caapi vine. Also, it should be pointed out that going beyond 4 grams of syrian rue (around 200-280mg of harmaline) or 100 grams of strong caapi vine (150--250mg of harmine) can increase the negative effects of these beta-carbolines--which include a feeling of heaviness, pressure in the head, inability to walk properly, more purging and perhaps more of an emphasis on bodily processes.
An oral dosage of 100mg of dmt is where the visionary qualities really begin to occur, for most people say when they are taking 3 grams of syrian rue or 80 grams of strong vine, and in context, 40-60 grams of strong vine is enough to fully mao inhibit most people.
I would say to neophyte explorers to tread carefully, and to slowly increase your dmt dosage in increments: perhaps starting at 60mg, going to 100mg, then 150mg. Some people are going to find 100mg of dmt to be exceedingly strong, and it will perhaps give them an experience they did not feel ready for.
It came to my attention after an embarrassing number of years, that taking freebase crystal DMT orally was not as potent, colourful, or clear as taking the equivalent amount of DMT in a tea that was brewed from the plant. For many years, I couldn't see how there could be a difference, but after doing some comparisons, it was obvious that the tea was much better, and the experiences resulting from the crystalline extract were inferior.
You could take twice or even three times as much DMT crystal as the equivalent in brew, and the experience from the crystal would never be as bright or full as that from the tea. Why could this be?
Downwardsfromzero in the Ayahuasca thread responded:
Quote:This combined with the HPBCD complexation results (which we really ought to replicate and confirm) makes me wonder whether there are saccharides in leaf brews which perform a similar effect to HPBCD. There is still so much scope for really interesting research here - thanks for posting.
The HPBCD complexed freebase DMT used orally in an Ayahuasca tea is VERY STRONG in comparison, it is just like the Hawaiian psychotria, all encompassing & super strong. It is more potent, colorful, and clear, just like the actual leaf. The DMT freebase and DMT salts are inferior in comparison to HPBCD DMT. You can only complex HPBCD to freebase DMT.
See Pic7 below: Example from the scientific literature: HPBCD improves oral absorption profile for Ofloxacin, a second generation fluroquinolones by 54 to 89 percent. DMT freebase and DMT salts also have poor body absorption, but when freebase DMT is complexed to HPBCD, the oral absorption strength changes from mild to strong.
(5) Want to extend the journey?
After the oral Ayahuasca wears off, and you feel you want to re-visit or extend the journey, then that would be a good time to take some HPBCD DMT sublingually under the tongue for 15 minutes. This way you don't have to take more oral harmine again to re-activate the HPBCD DMT. Additional doses of oral harmine can weigh down the body introducing some nausea and dizziness.
I like to pre-prepare a 90mg DMT dose complexed to 630mg HPBCD (use 720mg is using the 2-hydroxy PBCD) in 10 drops boiling hot water on a spoon and suck up this 0.5ml (10 drop) complexed solution into a 3ml syringe (100 x 3ml pack of syringes dirt cheap on-line) for storage in room or freezer (defrosts quickly at room temp) and squirt this under tongue when ready to re-dose. This gives me +5 Shulgin strength level.
This sublingual HPBCD DMT re-dose will bring back the Ayahuasca for another 1.5 hour, especially since the THH has a 10.5 hour half-life with peak at 5.25 hours, and the 200mg or so of harmine you took earlier will keep the overall MAO defenses lowered in the body for a good 5 to 6 hours, so feel free to re-dose more sublingual HPBCD DMT at least two more times total for the evening if you feel up to it. It will still work as strong as the original oral HPBCD DMT dose. This way you can get 4.5 hours or more total strong journey trip time. I like to do it this way.
Stay true to yourself. Peace, Love & music.
www.friskyradio.comPic 1: my yearly morning glory grow. Yes, I trip hard on fresh from the vine seeds, which I vacuum pack freeze using a foodsaver to keep high potency indefinitely. See post #8, I extract into 2oz just opened cold sherry wine high in acetaldehyde. The Mayans and Aztecs also extracted into alcoholic beverages as they discovered this would extract the 5 different stimulating LSD-like alkaloids, this is covered in post #8 as well.
Pic 2: morning glory easy extraction with materials list, all steps illustrated with pics, covered on post #8. 2 bridgesii cactus seen as well, but I now trip using PC san pedro, as bridgesii has become just too rare, and I've tripped extremely hard on PC san pedro tea (yes, you can trip very hard on PC san pedro so long as you use enough) for over 10 hours!
Pic 3: The late great DM Turner on mescaline, I agree with everything he saids, have taken cactus tea over 200 times over course of many years, and Caapi-based Ayahuasca over 80 times.
Pic 4: 2 step method for making HPBCD complexed DMT, many factors stronger than DMT freebase or DMT salts when used orally in Ayahuasca tea, easy to reach a Shulgin +5 strength, while DMT freebase and salts (70 to 120mg) never seem to reach beyond a mild +3 in over a dozen experiments.
Pic 5: 158mg THH is the average amount found in one cup of Caapi-based Ayahuasca tea, when 2 cups are drank for evening by some more advanced members, they are consuming 300mg of THH.
Pic 6: Gayle Highpine on becoming a Shaman:
http://www.ayahuasca.com...he-origin-of-ayahuasca/
Pic 7: Example from the scientific literature: HPBCD improves oral absorption profile for Ofloxacin, a second generation fluroquinolones by 54 to 89 percent. DMT freebase and DMT salts also have poor body absorption, but when freebase DMT is complexed to HPBCD, the oral absorption strength changes from mild to strong.
Pic 8: Priestess of Quetzalcoatl. Gayle Highpine "Snakes, the most common vision on Ayahuasca, are considered the manifest spirit of the vine." I totally agree, see part 2.
pic 9: Aztec & Mayan Quetzalcoatl myth
pic 10: See (1) at top of this post, redson mini 7oz stainless steel water bottle holds my 1 oz Super Ayahuasca coffee, keeps hot for a very long time, for when I want to travel and take her out in nature, zero nausea.
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