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Fruit is life
#1 Posted : 1/16/2021 7:44:47 AM

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Hello harmala lovers, does anyone have any experience vaporizing or smoking THH?, I have used THH in my pharmahuasca brews with harmine and harmaline, and I love it's highly electric, visual energy and extended afterglow. I have only smoked/vaporized harmaline and it was extremely strong and made the distinct feel of the specific harmala pronounced, I have used harmine and harmaline orally/Sublingually near daily for months and love them, but have not used THH much at all, and never alone.

So I am curious as to whether or not anyone has smoked THH alone and how it was.

I will be taking 200mg orally alone tommorow and probably smoke 20-30mg alone the next day to get a better feel for THH as it is without any other MAOi harmala alkaloids present, I will also try vaping DMT on THH without any MAOi harmala alkaloids, for a personal comparison to harmine/harmaline alone, will report back how it goes.

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#2 Posted : 1/17/2021 2:02:14 AM

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THH also works sublingually pretty well. 70mg THH alone is quite something, but they say it works best in synergy with DMT.

I imagine vaped would work the same, but more efficient like the other harmalas, as it reaches higher concentrations where you want it.

I'm curious to hear about your experience vaping it with DMT without other harmalas.
 
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#3 Posted : 1/17/2021 9:11:20 PM

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8:30pm: 30mg of THH loaded into a glass vapor genie, took the ceramic filter off and stuck the  flame to the thh, took one big toke and held held it in

Quite a disgusting taste and painful..

Feel a little stunned, my lungs hurt and i am coughing, smoked harmalas are quite harsh for me..

8:40pm: Still coming up, all round general mood lift, I am relaxed and feel calm, auditory phenomena is becoming highly vibrational and blending together to create the typical sharp harmala "buzzing" sound.

Unlike smoked harmaline there is practically no ataxia, headspins or nausea but I do feel like I want to slow right down and sit still..

Visually it is very subtle, slight sharpening of edges and enhanced single pointed focus/attention, such focus seems to subtly enhance everything.

Communication is enhanced, allows me to put others first and forget about the "self" without even trying, thus talking and socialising is effortless and enjoyable.

8:50 impressive moodlift, I feel very content.

9:00 slight tension in my head, not uncomfortable but it's there

10:30pm I am tired and head to bed, sleep comes easy and I enjoy a great sleep.


Overall THH is not distinctly psychedelic at 30mg, but I would definitely say it has the typical harmala trademark psychoactivity but is the most subtle... Feels like an antidepressant nootropic, and that it would show it's potential at higher doses with dmt and harmine etc.

I wouldn't smoke It again due to the horrible taste and harshness, but I will use 200mg orally + vaporized dmt in the next few days and report back.
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#4 Posted : 1/18/2021 4:26:43 AM
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Nexttime do not remove the ceramic filter if its a freebase it should vaporize. I vaporize large loads of harmala freebases out of the gvg without ever combusting any herb. Its never remotely harsh barely feel it in my lungs or exhaling/inhaling I just hear the cereberal pulsing audible hallucination harmalas create. Dont combust the harmalas if it tastes nasty and hurts thats a red flag.
 
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#5 Posted : 1/18/2021 4:39:27 AM

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Thank you for the advice!, I have read previously that harmalas don't vaporize well and that they needed higher temps so I just went with it, I have done the same with harmaline and it's also pretty nasty..will try again with the filter on sometime later and probably never smoke harmalas like that ever again..plus I much prefer taking them orally..so much richer.

I am currently 2.5 hours into my 170mg oral THH test and it is quite nice indeed..
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#6 Posted : 1/18/2021 8:25:17 AM

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170mg freebase THH consumed  orally at 1pm

1h 10m: Auditory sensations are buzzing and ringing..high vibrational sounds are connecting everywhere echoing around me..

2h: I am very calm, everything is slow, internal dialouge has taken a back seat, everything is interesting and my attentions intensity is immense, I can focus on my environment completely.

Very meditative, feels very much like I am in deep meditation, slow brain waves, overall feels very stable mood wise, very anti-depressant..

Applying spiritual disciplines like meditation, mantras, single pointed awareness, training the senses, putting others first, slowing down etc becomes so effortless

No nausea, no ataxia, no tracers etc clear headed and very calming.

I feel like learning would be greatly fast tracked and enhanced in this state, so much information is absorbed.. going to test..

15mg of DMT vaporized at 4:30pm (3:30h after dosing THH)
I sit down and take a few deep breathes..I put my headphones on and turn on some music (Fandango by santiago De Murcia).. with the THH  am detached, calm and  clear, I vaporize 15mg in one toke and hold, the THH keeps the usual nervous onset at bay and I remain calm and distanced, the pace of the experience is slowed down and I have more space to feel...unlike MAOi harmalas the duration is not extended, the intensity is over in 15 minutes whereas with oral harmine it lasts 30 minutes atleast,  but with THH most notably a sustained afterglow for 2 hours persisted.

About 10 minutes in I feel the chattering voice "wake up", the deepest parts of the trip are always when it goes to sleep at the peak..as I notice the voice speeding up, it starts to panic as always, paranoia, fear, complete irrational labelling is all it does and are it's trademarks..i watch from a distance, remaining calm.. I foolishly give it attention and the fear/delusion winds up with attention feeding it, it nauseates me..I lay down and stare with focus and it falls back "asleep" and I regain comfort and a still mind focused mind.

I was not panicked or fearful during any of this experience, I was content and in the moment, this panicked voice feels very seperate to me whilst THH or any harmala is in my system.

I come down and feel great, I play my guitar with enhanced ability and creativty feeling,  the THH afterglow is great..

To summarize, the THH augments the DMT with its background state of calm upbeat, focused, detached clarity, it doesn't really extend the duration but does slow the experience down, there is however an extended afterglow.

I would guess combined with Harmine and DMT is where the real magic is at..

It's been 6 hours since I dosed the THH and I am still feeling it, nice and smoothe...

For anyone interested check this song out, I found it great with dmt..
Fandango
https://open.spotify.com...=xujYu8nGTx2fblFwl4SZJw

Hope someone finds this helpful..✌
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#7 Posted : 1/18/2021 9:48:42 AM
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That's great! I find that THH "humanizes" DMT, slows it down and makes it more understandable. I think you'll have a great time with your harmine/THH/DMT combo.
 
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#8 Posted : 1/18/2021 1:03:49 PM
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Fruit is life wrote:
Thank you for the advice!, I have read previously that harmalas don't vaporize well and that they needed higher temps so I just went with it, I have done the same with harmaline and it's also pretty nasty..will try again with the filter on sometime later and probably never smoke harmalas like that ever again..plus I much prefer taking them orally..so much richer.

I am currently 2.5 hours into my 170mg oral THH test and it is quite nice indeed..


I also read that harmalas do not vaporize well but when I drop fb rocks into my gvg they dissappear with one basic cloud. Had to validate harmalas vape so I knew my changa was being exhausted. I prefer taking harmalas orally aswell 150mg of harmaline/harmine fb followed by 1 toke of changa is always enough for a powerful experience. I have also had success vaporizing salvinorin A.
 
 
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