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#1 Posted : 11/4/2020 9:22:25 AM

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I'm not posting this in the Decriminalize Nature thread as it's not just about nature.

Breaking News: Oregon Becomes the First State to Decriminalize All Drugs
https://doubleblindmag.c...ecriminalize-all-drugs/

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Oregonians pass Measure 110 to decriminalize personal possession amounts of all drugs, from LSD and MDMA to meth and heroin.
 

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#2 Posted : 11/4/2020 10:51:33 AM

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Very good. Going to need to build more methadone clinics.

In 2010 I was charged and convicted with felony possession, for having a personal amount of heroin. This is wrong.
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#3 Posted : 11/4/2020 12:41:09 PM

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Looks like Oregon also legalized psilocybin if it is given by "approved providers".

I have mixed feelings about that, seems like a framework for industry and $$$ to be involved instead of a principled stand for liberty of personal choice. The "approved provider" already is mother nature and fancy monkeys writing fancy laws can go take a chill pill.
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#4 Posted : 11/4/2020 4:26:31 PM

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We had both a decrim measure and a so-called psilocybin "legalization" measure on the ballot, both of which passed. I get the numbers mixed up, but one set personal amount limits for possession and set the penalty as a violation for most drugs, which means that the worst one would recieve is a $100 fine for personal use amounts. It's wording is problematic as it takes cannabis money from education and puts it into unspecified and currently non-existent treatment beds.

The other measure, which I emphatically voted "no" on, is the bill that sets up a system for licensed providers to provide mushrooms in "therapy sessions", something I have written and complained enough about.

My OR city has been experiencing a drug crisis like I've never seen, mostly caused by meth, and I am not really sure how or if either of these bills will do anything to make it better for the people suffering or to improve living conditions here.
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#5 Posted : 11/4/2020 10:12:21 PM

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Same up here in Oly with the meth epidemic, Null. It is very bad. There are several permanent meth camp towns. Little shelters built from pallets and the whole nine yards. There is a one block parking lot downtown which has been given by Oly for tent city. Seems like they had legalized hard drugs in PNW years ago from the look of the neighborhood.
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#6 Posted : 11/5/2020 12:46:58 AM

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This is the first step to ending the failed and incredibly destructive "war on drugs".

I'm curious to see how the funds being diverted from education will be used, I hope the "treatment" they are funneling them toward will have a strong foundation in accurate education.
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#7 Posted : 11/5/2020 1:17:42 AM

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Seems like they had legalized hard drugs in PNW years ago from the look of the neighborhood

Honestly, effectively, they did. Busting street-level narcotics has been at an all-time low priority for local LEO for awhile now it seems. Since Covid it is non-existent, literally, in PDX. A walk through certain parts of town that weren't that bad last February and one is guaranteed to see either someone shooting up or hitting a meth pipe or an open sex act or violence, or all of it. It is like what I've heard the "red-light" district of Vancouver is like, and the same thinking for allowing it here prevails, without any of the fore-thought or reasonable consideration used there.

While I support decriminalization as part of my core value system, I worry that without funding distrubution in place and monies earmarked for working programs, that a whole lot of it will go down the drain in planning sessions while more and more people fall through the now gaping wide holes in the social safety net. It is not like placing people in the revolving door jail/probation/fine/jail cycle helps anyone, but a free-for-all isn't going to do much but create a huge, huge mess either. OD's have skyrocketed this year, another news story you don't hear about thanks to Trump and Covid ( and it's likely because of Trump and Covid, buuut...) I just know how the OR legislature works and how they love playing with poorly fleshed out bills that deal with large sums of cash for long, long periods of time without actually doing anything spelled out in them.

We will see how this measure pans out, and to be open, I voted "yes" on this it. The org that I work for, which is part of the fore-mentioned county's mental-health social safety net, supported it as well.
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Fantastic news. Let's hope the rest of the country follow suit.
 
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#9 Posted : 11/5/2020 5:17:44 PM

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I wonder how this might affect the ability to conduct scientific research
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I wonder how this might affect the ability to conduct scientific research


Apparently it doesn't help much (but I don't understand the details). This news article talks about the topic briefly (among others).

“... (a) psychedelic substance occasionally causes psychotic behaviour in people who have not taken it.”
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#11 Posted : 11/15/2020 3:42:51 PM
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What's missing is a concerted effort to educate the public about "Harm Avoidance," that's right, not "harm reduction" - that's for opioids, benzos, and coca, and the like.

After 50+ years of drug war propaganda, the population is in a state of intentional ignorance, distortion and delusion.

The situation without education and dissemination of best practices, will be like leaving an assortment of bladed electric power tools on the floor in a pre-school day care.

This thing about "approved providers" is just a way for society to avoid taking responsibility for the brutalizations, and retardation of progress that the Drug War represents, though admittedly, with the state of ignorance in the US, it's probably the best that can be done, for now.

Society and Culture need to grapple with this in an effective way, and the time for fear and ignorance is over.
 
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#12 Posted : 11/17/2020 1:27:47 PM

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I am glad to see this happening, finally...although I am unsure where I the the future will take us in relation to the monopolization of these plants and substances. I hope everyone elsewhere in the world moving forward takes Canada as a warning. So many people think the situation here with cannabis has improved. It has not, depending who you talk to. The government now owns commercial cannabis in Canada. The Public can only have 4 plants per household. With landlords and small apartments etc growing at home legally for anyone who needs the plant is just not possible. You either break laws, or fund the gov who booted out everyone who made the community what it now is.

As a medical user who cant funtion well without it night and day, I just can't find the strains or quality of medicine I could 3 years ago, before the gov approved big box growers took over the entire market by force. Now you pay a huge tax on top of it. This pseudo socialism in Canada is a facade, people are now seeing that just because someone lets you get high doesnt mean they have your best intentions.

Are things better now? That depends on who you talk to.

Take a walk down my old neighbourhood in east van and most likely you will conclude Vancouver has done a whole lot wrong.

Best to grow what you can now and hold it dear, and never vote for a company like compass pathways to own your medicine.
 
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#14 Posted : 12/21/2020 11:13:43 PM

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I can't find the article to link to, but today our local DA announced the effective beginning of the enforcement end of this measure and said that his office will decline any forthcoming possession charges in Portland. At the same time, our Governor has stated that the funding for traetment will be delayed and will not begin to be allocated for over a year from now.
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#15 Posted : 12/22/2020 9:27:35 PM

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Salutation Jamie,

jamie wrote:
I am glad to see this happening, finally...


Earl Blumenauer has been "My Hero from USA" since Harper days, e.g. while i was still starting to become politically aware beyond what i thought i knew previously. Including Québec's Pharmacy Act legacy going back to dominion law, printed in 1890...

jamie wrote:
I hope everyone elsewhere in the world moving forward takes Canada as a warning. So many people think the situation here with cannabis has improved. It has not...


Well it's a bit of relief to discover i wasn't alone to notice!

Actually the law ain't even as permissive in Québec and also manitoba i'm told.

Are you forced to stand shaming TV ads where you live?

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...can't find the strains or quality of medicine I could 3 years ago...


M'yep! In retrospective i can now claim observing the transition looking through my microscope - literally. Actually just the annoucement of Trudeau before our 2015 electoral poles sufficed to reflect in ways hardly encountered at all before...

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Are things better now?


Can't see how. Not to mention those i manage to talk to about Prohibition v2.0 seem practically clueless and that ain't even their fault, mass media being part of the problem rather than solution.

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...Vancouver has done a whole lot wrong.


I wish i could express everything there is to say in one burst, as if more misery described in details could help heal yours.

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Best to grow what you can now and hold it dear...


If you do please keep in mind you'll also need to outhink the thinktank, especially if depending on electricity from a utility grid featured with smart meters.

The number & amplitude of vilification vectors exploded in comparison to the pre-2015 period i was able to witness. Anyone supporting the "legal" mari-caca of cap'tain Itnoc is now a guinea-pig, considering there's just ZERO long-term public health studies on chronic mass-poisoning from savvy designer (non-detection) Pest Control Product soups optimized for their residual "trace" synergies. Which by the way caused me to discover the old history of a level-3 item from UN's Chemical Weapons Convention: Zyklon gas...

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