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astralspice
#1 Posted : 9/19/2020 6:58:31 PM

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Hey nexux, it's been quite a while since i have done any chemistry so i could use a refresher course. Does anyone know the easy way to separate harmalas from dmt, Ive got some changa with a high ratio of harmala and im just not a big fan of it so id like to get it out.
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Elrik
#2 Posted : 9/19/2020 8:16:50 PM

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It would help to know just how much you have.
That would help decide if the procedures would be practical or worth the effort.
I could outline a procedure to follow if its 200 grams of changa, if its 2 grams I'd say just mix it with some more DMT and more leaf to dilute it Wink
Other options for low quantities would be as a first hit before 2 more hits of better changa, or a small dose to take while peaking on mushrooms or mescaline, etc.
 
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#3 Posted : 9/19/2020 10:31:46 PM

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Perhaps I will just make a new batch, I still have a small amount of powdered MHRB from 8 years ago. I wonder if it has any enchantment left in it
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#4 Posted : 9/21/2020 8:00:23 PM

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Simplest solution as Elrik says is just add more DMT. As you have the bark you're in a good position to modify according to your wishes.
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#5 Posted : 9/21/2020 8:54:04 PM

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I never tried it but given harmalas are hardly soluble in IPA or acetone ( in room temperature ) and DMT is... just put your changa in a glass of IPA/acetone, mix a little bit and probably most of your dmt ( if not all ) is now in the IPA.

The remaining herb can be now put in acidic solution in order to recover the harmalas.

You just deconstructed your changa back to its original ingredients I believe...

 
Elrik
#6 Posted : 9/22/2020 7:01:56 AM

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Harmala bases are moderately soluble in acetone and likely similarly soluble in IPA. Granted, freebase DMT and DMT-N-oxide would be substantially more soluble [as would be harmine-N-oxide] so the procedure could substantially swing the ratios. Use IPA if going for that option. 91% dissolves DMT, 99% is even better.
I would avoid using acetone.
NMT occurs in variable amounts in natural DMT and we don't know the degree of neurotoxicity that would be caused by smoking 1,1,2-trimethyltryptoline which would be a product of NMT reacting with acetone in the presence of heat or residual bases.
 
 
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