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TalkingGarden
#1 Posted : 11/13/2019 5:18:39 PM
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Any ideas how to come by HCl? I know muritic is sold in stores but that's diluted so that wouldn't work right? for kash's a/b
 

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#2 Posted : 11/13/2019 5:22:55 PM

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Yes it would work. HCl is a very strong acid not to be fooled around with. Always be in a good ventilated area. Don't evaporate the stuff in an oven or some similar setting. Use protective gear when working with it.
 
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#3 Posted : 11/13/2019 6:12:18 PM
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Yeh i know the dangers actually use muriatic for metal work! but reg muriatic will work for this do i need to use more as i thought the tek was just straigh HCl not diluted but i dont know never done that before????
 
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#4 Posted : 11/13/2019 6:27:11 PM

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Hardware store 'muriatic acid' is typically greenish in colour due to metal contamination. This is best avoided in products intended for consumption.

"Straight HCl" is a gas Big grin. Find out the concentration of hydrochloric acid needed by referring to the method you are using. You then need to ascertain the concentration of the HCl you are using and adjust the amount used accordingly.
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#5 Posted : 11/13/2019 8:34:26 PM
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That makes sense i use the hardware store stuff to do metal work so i guess thats what its made for...any other tips is this something i will end up having to order?
 
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#6 Posted : 11/13/2019 8:44:01 PM

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You don't need very concentrated acid, diluted is better as you have lower risk of going too low with pH.
 
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#7 Posted : 11/13/2019 9:23:59 PM

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OK, assembling the attempted hints given Wink :

In order to transform your hardware store acid into something usable, you will need to construct an assemblage of flasks and tubes (preferably Drechsler gas washing bottles), and an air pump, such that you can bubble air into gently warmed, store-bought acid and then lead the fumes through an outlet tube in order to bubble them through distilled water contained in second vessel. Done correctly, this will provide you with HCl to a maximum concentration of about 20%, and free from metals contamination.

It seems you're sufficiently aware of the requisite safety procedures (I hope!)
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#8 Posted : 11/13/2019 11:00:06 PM
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Safety i am good i am new to this kinda stuff but work with dangerous materials at dangerous temperatures all the time!

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