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Espiridion
#1 Posted : 12/31/2009 3:33:12 AM

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Second round.

A mere 15mg THH followed by 45mg spice about 20 minutes later.

I have spoken of the burn being ingnorable. This time for some reason it stuck around for a bit.

Anyway. This was a powerful(!!!) experience! The first thing I saw was a striking entity in a stone doorway, it morphed a bit and then beckoned to me telepathically. In a nutshell, the entity told me I could 'level-up' if I was ready.

Boy, did I!!Shocked

I have NEVER seen such extraordinary detail in a spice journey. It was very mescalinesque. The finest filigree and structure in every thing in this foreign place. I was able to access modes of thought and see constructs of mind/spirit/ego/superego/anima/animus from a perspective I've not had with any other entheogen. It was as if Mescalito and Ayahuasca had offspring. One offering the beauty and detail of the real world and the other lending the deepest insights into the self and nature of reality.

This was a small dose! I believe the strength of my experience had to do with a certain readiness. Most previous spice journey's were not in the dark, were not lying down and were not alone.

I focused on opening my third eye which I am successful with in normal meditation but have not tried before with spice.
Such a difference.

Also, the burn lingered much longer than in previous trials and I believe added a certain dimension to the experience. One must obtain a certain 'abandon', to borrow from Don Juan Matus, and the pain can be of use this way.


More to come...


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#2 Posted : 12/31/2009 4:28:38 AM

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very awesome report

"i believe the strength of my experience had to do with a certain readiness." - agreed.
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Espiridion
#3 Posted : 12/31/2009 6:54:12 PM

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Last night just before I lay down to sleep, I placed ~20mg Caapi Copy under my tongue. I felt it in about 8 minutes. A few minutes later, I placed ~40mg (eyeballed) under my tongue. The burn is becoming more tolerable with each journey.

Pain only, no lesions or soreness this morning.


Family, this took me on an Ayahuasca journey of the same magnitude as 180mg C.C. and 120 mg spice!!!!


Visions of such immaculate beauty and feelings of being wrapped in a warm blanket woven of the purest universal love kept me entranced and smiling for over two hours. I met beautiful elves that were SO happy to see me. I drifted in and out of consciousness and just knew that I was close to the experience being over but it just kept on going!!



I did say two hours. On ~20 mg Caapi alks and a mere 40-45 mg of spice!!!!



I couldn't wait to report this to all of you.

If you have not tried this sublingual method, just know that freebase spice burns. I have used fumarate as well and it also burns, not as bad but also, in my experience it doesn't work as well.


all I can say is,



Behind the burn lies heaven...


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#4 Posted : 1/1/2010 5:45:11 AM

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Espiridion wrote:
Behind the burn lies heaven...


Virola calophylla resin with about 6% calcium hydroxide sublingually doesn't burn and gets you to the same place. It's more costly, but it doesn't burn. SWIM prefers it to pure freebase DMT because of the lack of SERIOUS PAIN.
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#5 Posted : 1/1/2010 11:37:25 PM

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Not nearly as much material is needed with just freebase. I compare the pain of freebase to the taste of cactus. Price of admission.

Not to mention the cost plus the hassle of prepping with C.H. with JUST the right amount of water, waiting for it to dry...Rolling eyes

Neither method is for just anyone, I'll admit. But, it works and that is all I am saying. I enjoy it!Very happy

And I agree that everyone should at least try both calophylla resin and theodora resin. Wink



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#6 Posted : 2/17/2010 2:57:08 AM

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Do you really need to wait between the maoi and spice administration? Can't they both be taken at the same time or at most 1-2mins apart?

Also:
Espiridion wrote:
I did say two hours. On ~20 mg Caapi alks and a mere 40-45 mg of spice!!!!

That is amazing. Swim will have to get some maoi and give geltabs a go Very happy
 
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#7 Posted : 2/18/2010 4:52:13 PM

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Espiridion wrote:
If you have not tried this sublingual method, just know that freebase spice burns. I have used fumarate as well and it also burns, not as bad but also, in my experience it doesn't work as well.


You should probably do a water purification on your fumarate. SWIM's purified fumarate doesn't burn at all but tastes horridly bitter (its full range from jurema, but that probably shouldn't matter). SWIM tried sublingual fumarate with THH and also found that though it was active, didn't work so well. He can't compare to freebase, as he hasn't tried it yet, but he doesn't have fond memories of freebase coming into contact with mucous membranes. An acetate tincture may be worth a try.
 
 
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