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#141 Posted : 8/20/2019 2:57:39 PM

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Hey team!

First and foremost I just wanted to thank all of you guys for this awesome information. I'm in the early stages of preparation for my first extraction - just need to purchase a few more things - and the question of how to consume the spice needed answering. I've just ordered a Jackaroo to replace my usual tobacco and the prospect of it having multiple uses is pretty exciting! I'll be ordering an atomiser once I've extracted and created something worth trying then I'll be back to update you guys on how I go. First times only come once.

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#142 Posted : 8/20/2019 10:43:04 PM

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Welcome to The society brother. Thanks for The input on The Sai Titanium bucket. I use it The same way as You. But it has been placed in The drawer, since it don'match The e-mesh method in ny opinion. Not near.

Mesh in the Sai Will probably not work. I tried with mesh directly on glowing coils on standard rda. The problem is that The mesh won't heat fast enough, and you Will not breakthrough.

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#143 Posted : 9/3/2019 11:51:25 PM
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Hi there!

First I would like to thank everyone for the sharing of this wonderful technique. I'm an older user of "The Machine". It was a great and a very fun tool Big grin But nothing in parallel with this technique. Oh my god! I just tried little dosage 5/12 mg and it's tremendously effective for this range of dosage if I compare with others devices.
But I still have some questions about the method.

Why people here use 220°C in TC Mode if the vaporization of DMT is around 150/160°C ?

and an other point, why you recommend to have a flat mesh ? Personally I fold a bit the mesh to make a little cavity which is more useful to charge the mesh without spill DMT everywhere.

Thanks and long live to life.
 
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#144 Posted : 9/4/2019 1:00:22 PM
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pierrotlefou wrote:
Hi there!

First I would like to thank everyone for the sharing of this wonderful technique. I'm an older user of "The Machine". It was a great and a very fun tool Big grin But nothing in parallel with this technique. Oh my god! I just tried little dosage 5/12 mg and it's tremendously effective for this range of dosage if I compare with others devices.
But I still have some questions about the method.

Why people here use 220°C in TC Mode if the vaporization of DMT is around 150/160°C ?

and an other point, why you recommend to have a flat mesh ? Personally I fold a bit the mesh to make a little cavity which is more useful to charge the mesh without spill DMT everywhere.

Thanks and long live to life.


Hi pierrotlefou do you have a picture of your mesh your talking about. Thanks
 
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#145 Posted : 9/4/2019 3:04:44 PM
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sbc1 wrote:
pierrotlefou wrote:
Hi there!

First I would like to thank everyone for the sharing of this wonderful technique. I'm an older user of "The Machine". It was a great and a very fun tool Big grin But nothing in parallel with this technique. Oh my god! I just tried little dosage 5/12 mg and it's tremendously effective for this range of dosage if I compare with others devices.
But I still have some questions about the method.

Why people here use 220°C in TC Mode if the vaporization of DMT is around 150/160°C ?

and an other point, why you recommend to have a flat mesh ? Personally I fold a bit the mesh to make a little cavity which is more useful to charge the mesh without spill DMT everywhere.

Thanks and long live to life.


Hi pierrotlefou do you have a picture of your mesh your talking about. Thanks


Of course. Here were are.

It's like a M.
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#146 Posted : 9/4/2019 11:29:01 PM
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Cheers mate
 
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#147 Posted : 9/5/2019 11:57:26 PM

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I use flat mesh, since one wants to optimize it with The largest surface area possible for more dense vapor and easier loading of spice onto the mesh.

Since The spice liquifies when heated, a flat surface ensures that The spice stays in place.

Folding the mesh on The middle might cause hot spots as well.

The vandyvape mesh rolls aren't optimal, a bit too narrow, making The loading a bit tricky. The 150 mesh size is Also thin, making it flumsy and difficult to load without spilling.

A cheaper and more effective sollution is to get a sheet of mesh, where one Can use scissors to make a good fit.

- more surface, Room for more spice
- thicker and more stable, a lot easier to load
- possible to bend up The sides of the mesh, since The mesh Will be hotter in The Center, between The posts. See image.



You set The temp to 200-210 because You want The spice to evaporate ASAP without burning it. The spice evaporate quickly without any burning taste or smell, and you empty 30 mg in 4-5 second.


A short video intro:
https://bit.ly/2lwVQEq

ou Can order from here:

https://www.ebay.com/itm...t-12-x-35-/132120411289

NB, this mesh is SS 304, not ss 316, so You need to set manual tcr to 250-300 and it Will work perfectly.
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#148 Posted : 9/6/2019 6:25:09 PM
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Propello really thank you for your complete answer, it's detailed and justified. Nevertheless I still have one little question related to your answer in my head.
What the difference between SS 304 and SS 316 and especially why the first need an higher temperature ? I know it's not an essential question for the need of the thing like say the proverb in my native language but like a lot of people I like to know the "why" of I'm doing.
Cheers!
 
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#149 Posted : 9/7/2019 1:43:41 AM
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Does anyone know how to convert or interpret the TCR values on the vandyvape jackaroo? In SS TC setting the minimum value is 800 and i believe the default setting was 1100.
 
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#150 Posted : 9/8/2019 12:12:05 AM

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pierrotlefou wrote:
Propello really thank you for your complete answer, it's detailed and justified. Nevertheless I still have one little question related to your answer in my head.
What the difference between SS 304 and SS 316 and especially why the first need an higher temperature ? I know it's not an essential question for the need of the thing like say the proverb in my native language but like a lot of people I like to know the "why" of I'm doing.
Cheers!


The different types of metal has different internal resistance. They Will change The resistance at different temperatures.
Ni200, Titanium, ss316 Are normally included AS presets on most mods. If using a different types of metal, You need to set tcr value manually. Just fiddle around with tcr and temperature. The mesh should glow slightly in a dark room.
 
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#151 Posted : 9/8/2019 12:30:01 AM

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Moscoe wrote:
Does anyone know how to convert or interpret the TCR values on the vandyvape jackaroo? In SS TC setting the minimum value is 800 and i believe the default setting was 1100.


Dont know The jackaroo. My best advice is to fiddle around with temp and tcr. The mesh should glow slightly in a dark room. You probably need a higher tcr than The default ss mode.
 
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#152 Posted : 9/8/2019 4:53:57 AM
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Propello wrote:
Moscoe wrote:
Does anyone know how to convert or interpret the TCR values on the vandyvape jackaroo? In SS TC setting the minimum value is 800 and i believe the default setting was 1100.


Dont know The jackaroo. My best advice is to fiddle around with temp and tcr. The mesh should glow slightly in a dark room. You probably need a higher tcr than The default ss mode.


Ok, I had to bump it up to the max value (1600) to get it to glow slightly at 200C in a dark room.
 
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#153 Posted : 9/8/2019 10:50:38 AM

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Just gotta say this thread is awesome and very helpful. 5 stars...
 
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#154 Posted : 9/8/2019 5:48:54 PM

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Just gotta say this thread is awesome and very helpful. 5 stars...


Thx brother. ๐Ÿ˜€
Please keep us updated if you choose to do the e-mesh method. Remember no more than 25 mg in the first round.
You will be surprised. Safe travels mate๐ŸŒ 
 
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#155 Posted : 9/8/2019 6:57:43 PM

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Thx brother. ๐Ÿ˜€
Please keep us updated if you choose to do the e-mesh method. Remember no more than 25 mg in the first round.
You will be surprised. Safe travels mate๐ŸŒ 

will do mate, funny I have most of the stuff from quitting smoking, the jesters pressured me to stop smoking cold turkey, so I did, then the news of the horrible unknown illnesses hitting young people using vapes, then this thread.... funny how that happens with DMT, almost how my life is now just guided in a way. Not that I have to do shit... but like there are lots of paths but one I just seem more sure of... maybe I just see good smart opportunities at the time. ill keep you updated...
 
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#156 Posted : 9/10/2019 3:34:48 PM
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Any one got the evic vtc mod help me set it up for the vandy ss150 mesh, I also can't screw the vandy vape tank on my mod, do I need to remove the gold screw on the bottom. Thanks
 
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#157 Posted : 9/10/2019 6:22:19 PM

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sbc1 wrote:
Any one got the evic vtc mod help me set it up for the vandy ss150 mesh, I also can't screw the vandy vape tank on my mod, do I need to remove the gold screw on the bottom. Thanks


They should fit. Standard 510 connection.
 
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#158 Posted : 9/10/2019 6:26:20 PM

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Kettle wrote:
Thx brother. ๐Ÿ˜€
Please keep us updated if you choose to do the e-mesh method. Remember no more than 25 mg in the first round.
You will be surprised. Safe travels mate๐ŸŒ 

will do mate, funny I have most of the stuff from quitting smoking, the jesters pressured me to stop smoking cold turkey, so I did, then the news of the horrible unknown illnesses hitting young people using vapes, then this thread.... funny how that happens with DMT, almost how my life is now just guided in a way. Not that I have to do shit... but like there are lots of paths but one I just seem more sure of... maybe I just see good smart opportunities at the time. ill keep you updated...


The deaths and sick people in The US, has been vaping poor quality cannabis oil, several cases og e-vitamin acetat in The juice, which is very harmful for The lungs. Vaping vape liquids with VG and PG is ok though.
 
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#159 Posted : 9/11/2019 6:50:25 PM
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My new setup, just tried 5mg to test the waters and it nearly blew my head off, wasn't expecting that off 5mg, could do with a bigger surface area than the vandy ss mesh, other than that its awesome
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#160 Posted : 9/12/2019 2:40:36 AM

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Nice setup there brother ๐Ÿ‘Œ. Glad to hear that You got to assemble it right.

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