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Predetermined Universe moves from "heaven" to "hell". Where are we? Options
 
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#1 Posted : 1/5/2019 12:36:43 PM

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#2 Posted : 1/5/2019 1:58:08 PM

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Maybe time doesn't really exist. It is always now. Suffering and bliss occur always in the now. Everything else is an illusion.
"In the universe there is an immeasurable, indescribable force which shamans call intent, and absolutely everything that exists in the entire cosmos is attached to intent by a connecting link." ~Carlos Castaneda
 
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#3 Posted : 1/5/2019 2:20:17 PM

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#4 Posted : 1/5/2019 3:39:19 PM

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hmmm, you might be experiencing impermanence:

nothing in this universe is fixed, or unchanging.

if you go to the molecular level, every atom is in constant swinging motions,
so even if the wall in front of you seems "solid" and you can not walk through it,
it is not as solid as it looks as the atoms are swinging.

the ssame with your mind: there are constantly thoughts and feelings arising,
and they are interdependent, eg. a certain thought might trigger a certain
feeling and vice versa. but also this is ever changing and trying to keep
an emotion from vanishing or rising, causes problems...

the rest of your ideas are just attempts of the mind to make sense of that.
keep thinking, and do not think too much Pleased

 
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#5 Posted : 1/5/2019 4:17:10 PM

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#6 Posted : 1/5/2019 5:51:46 PM

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Where does your sense of such certainty come from? Was it something you 'realized' during a trip, or was it 'shown to you'? It's a good idea to always treat such experiences with a level of skepticism. Smile
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#7 Posted : 1/5/2019 6:44:25 PM

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#8 Posted : 1/5/2019 6:50:54 PM

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Well personally I disagree with a lot of the 'axioms' you stated, so I cannot offer insight to fill out the blanks in your theory.

Personally I have had experiences that were in direct contradiction to each other in what they implied as to the nature of reality. So right now my theory is that reality is kinda like the proverbial elephant to a blind man. Sometimes it's long and thin like a snake, sometimes it's flat and floppy like a blanket, sometimes it's round and huge like a barrel, sometimes it's cylindrical and hard like a tree...

You've touched the elephant's tail, and have a really deep realization of what it's like. It's important to keep an open mind. The elephant is not a tail.
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#9 Posted : 1/5/2019 7:34:56 PM

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#10 Posted : 1/5/2019 7:52:58 PM

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You seem to lack even the most basic respect for other viewpoints. It may come across as a shock, but no, I don’t trust you, and how much or how little doubt is left in you is completely irrelevant. If you want others to accept your words without question, I suggest starting a cult.

Yes, the realization that you are god IS the elephant’s tail in my view.
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#11 Posted : 1/5/2019 8:05:11 PM

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#12 Posted : 1/5/2019 8:27:38 PM

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xrrv wrote:
The universe rotates.

What do you think? What do you believe?

Attached picture:
https://imgur.com/Ncd5KIk


Whilst I think there's the possibility you may have touched upon something real in your experience/s, I think you're trying too hard to translate it back through a relative human viewpoint. Your concept structure is, well, a bit too human.

If the Universe rotates that immediately implies something external for it to be rotating relative to - all motion is relative to something else. A single particle in the abyss could be moving a million miles an hour but you'd never know because there's nothing relative to it with which to compare. Your diagram shows this misunderstanding (you drew a boundary).

I would guess you entertained the notion of heaven and hell before any of these experiences, yes?
 
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#13 Posted : 1/5/2019 8:33:44 PM

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Well I kinda wanted to jump in on this, but kinda want to stay out of it after reading some replies haha.

So I'll keep it short.

I can't say the picture you attached speaks to me, it depicts a singular revolutionary cycle and I can't say I think this is how the universe works.

I don't think you're totally wrong.... But a circle doesn't do it justice. An image or a mandelbrot fractal comes to mind when I think of how the universe functions. But I'll leave it at that.

 
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#14 Posted : 1/5/2019 8:56:04 PM

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#15 Posted : 1/5/2019 9:09:30 PM

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xrrv wrote:


You are right but it is a simplification. It all comes down to duality and a circle works when simplified.



Too simplified if you ask me... Duality implies a boundary imo, dark and light let's say. But dark and light are only the extremes, there are greys amongst the dark and the light.

I'll just leave this here: https://youtu.be/PD2XgQOyCCk

 
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#16 Posted : 1/5/2019 9:10:02 PM

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You say we don't have free will. But what exactly, would free will be, if it would exist?

I personally find this predeterminism vs free will issue, pretty confusing.

Say you wanted to prove that free will exists...what should such a proof look like?
Could on the other hand you disprove the existence of it, without knowing yet, what exactly constitutes the experience of free will?
 
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#17 Posted : 1/5/2019 9:21:08 PM

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#18 Posted : 1/5/2019 9:24:03 PM

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#19 Posted : 1/5/2019 9:27:16 PM

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xrrv wrote:
DreadedShaman wrote:

Too simplified if you ask me... Duality implies a boundary imo, dark and light let's say. But dark and light are only the extremes, there are greys amongst the dark and the light.


There is a transition. As I said, my painting skills suck. Otherwise this would have been clearer.



All I'm saying is to me duality implies a boundary, a gradient doesn't have a boundary. I'm basing this simply off your description, not your skills at shading a circle Razz
 
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#20 Posted : 1/5/2019 9:33:56 PM

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xrrv wrote:
Why something external?
The universe rotates around god by itself. We are god and therefore it rotates around us.


If the Universe rotates around God, then you are implying that God is something objective and relative for it to rotate relative to. This I don't agree with. To my mind God is [the] Absolute and is not objective, there is nothing relative to it yet it contains all the relative.

I think you may be entertaining a solipsistic paradigm in your head and would caution you to be careful with how much you invest yourself in these ideas. Don't lose track of what is in front of you Smile





 
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