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endlessness
#1 Posted : 10/14/2018 10:27:35 PM

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I've been working on this table (attached) which collects results from different cactus analysis. I added first of all journal publications, also underground assays. I've been careful to add sources to everything

It has 111 entries so far (as of 15/10/2018
130 as of 17/10

Ideally this will give us a good idea on mescaline content in cactus around the world, averages, distributions, being able to cross data such as growth/harvest conditions, vendor/geographical source, etc.

If you look at the excel table I also made sheets to separate per species, and on the bottom I added median/averages/deviation, as well as a scatter graph to catch outliers.

Please post any results you may have had and all the info you can on the sample (pics, growth/harvest info, extraction method, whatever you can)

Let me know what you guys think!


TL : DR, This is a database on cact mesc content, so far median value = 0.51% dry, average = 0.78% dry. Add your results by posting here to help this grow
 

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#2 Posted : 10/15/2018 12:52:54 AM

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Frickin' awesome! I'll send some data to add in the near future. Makes me happy that most of my trich forest are bridges with a few random pachanoi for variety Smile

edit: can we add a YES/NO column for mesc purifying/cleaning? perhaps the type of mesc salt too?
 
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#3 Posted : 10/15/2018 6:25:50 AM

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endlessnes, very nice work!
Once I find some potent ones, we can test them if you are interested. I am after the most potent cactuses though, so only those will be selected and the rest will be discarded.
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#4 Posted : 10/15/2018 6:27:05 PM

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awesome! wouldn't it be a good idea to add the used extraction tek to the table?
by the way this graph direction/order looks way better then the one before!
 
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#5 Posted : 10/15/2018 9:25:44 PM

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Hey friends

padawan, awesome, good luck with your cact garden Smile

Yes I can definitely add more columns to it to include purification/clean up.

Generally, the data is for pure mescaline, so the measurement is exact. The only cases where it might be simply talking about extract weight, which could be crude/impure/mixed with other alks, is when in the OBS column it says "not confirmed with analysis".

Ideally I'd like to find someone who can program a front end search engine for that database so we can filter search results according to different criteria (for example just show results that are confirmed with analysis, or just show nexus results, or just show results from cuttings that were kept in the dark after harvesting, etc), maybe even make automatic graphs, etc. Anyways, that's another idea for the future.

In the meanwhile I'm adding your suggestions, and adding more results when I find new publications or find other info from people around the nexus or other forums. I've also changed the % conversion between dry<->fresh values. I've been using Poisson 1960 value of 93.5% water content so making the dry as 6.5% the fresh value. It also seems closer to what Nexians have been getting according to Urtica and DansMaTete's experiments with drying cact, instead of the 10% value I was using before (therefore some of the values from earlier database version will have increased)

pete666, I'm happy if you can bring data from whatever you find, and I hope this database will help you find the best named clones!

grollum, yeah it does look better now, been tinkering a bit with how to display the data. And yeah I can def add something regarding extraction method.. In the meanwhile, if you go to "info source" column, all of the sources are hyperlinked either to the original publication where you can read about the extraction method, or to the post where the forum member is describing it.

Thanks again for the feedback, y'all!
 
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#6 Posted : 10/17/2018 2:07:52 PM

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Major updates in the original xls file!

I've added all the extraction teks/methods used, whether from publications or from underground extractions. Also added info whether there are pics available of cactus or extracts, and made it clear whether tests were confirmed with GC-MS or other analytical methods.

Also added a few more results, now we're up to n=130 .. Smile
 
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Here is a bunch of new numbers from my babies if you want to add it


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#8 Posted : 8/27/2019 12:38:48 AM

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Excellent, thanks Dans, added to the first post's .xls
 
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#9 Posted : 8/27/2019 9:48:31 AM

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DansMaTete wrote:
Here is a bunch of new numbers from my babies if you want to add it


DansMaTete, not bad numbers. Were they preselected in any way or is it 11 randomly selected seeds you sowed and have grown up?
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#10 Posted : 8/27/2019 12:17:38 PM

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Peruvianus and Bridgesii were generic seeds (no special name) and each time an extraction is done i note down the result, so no preselection.


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