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Tara123
#1 Posted : 8/9/2018 6:30:57 PM

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I am about to have a go at my first extraction using Cyb's ATB Salt tek.

It has occurred to me that if I'm successful I'm gonna need something to smoke the final product with. Wut?

I have done some research and can see that at some stage it would be worth investing in a vaporizing devise, such as the GVG.

However, in the meantime, would it work to just use the water bong that I would normally smoke weed out of?

If this is the case, am I just using the bong in the same way that I would do to smoke weed?

Any advice on this for a first timer is much appreciated, thanks.

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Bongs are great tools for DMT exploration. Be sure to always check the FAQ first.

But to expand on what it says there, it is best to "cherry" a small section of your bowl and take long, slow and deep draws into the lungs, using the ember from the cherry to toast the bowl and not a constant flame. If done right, you can get it all in one hit OR a couple hits. Hold it in...and see ya on the other side! This applies to enhanced leaf and changa. The sandwich method can be a little trickier depending on what is used (ash, herb, etc etc).

I would also suggest using a separate bong specifically for DMT unless you want your weed to taste like DMT too. Good luck!
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Tara123
#3 Posted : 8/9/2018 7:53:38 PM

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TGO wrote:
Bongs are great tools for DMT exploration. Be sure to always check the FAQ first.

But to expand on what it says there, it is best to "cherry" a small section of your bowl and take long, slow and deep draws into the lungs, using the ember from the cherry to toast the bowl and not a constant flame. If done right, you can get it all in one hit OR a couple hits. Hold it in...and see ya on the other side! This applies to enhanced leaf and changa. The sandwich method can be a little trickier depending on what is used (ash, herb, etc etc).

I would also suggest using a separate bong specifically for DMT unless you want your weed to taste like DMT too. Good luck!


Thanks TGO Very happy

So, can I just smoke the crystal in the bong? Or do I have to use the herbs?

And can you explain what you mean by "cherry"?

Sorry - I'm just trying to get to grips with how it will work.

I appreciate it, thanks Love


 
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#4 Posted : 8/9/2018 8:58:46 PM

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No problem, sometimes terminology is weird so let me put it this way:

Think of the "cherry" as something that is smoldering, like the lit end of someone's cigarette or joint. You want it to be an ember, not totally destroyed by open flames. So light a small portion of your enhanced leaf so it starts burning as an ember, then coupled with the long drags, the heat will pass over the DMT, vaporizing it while simultaneously (and slowly) burning your leaf.

(Note: People often load a little extra with these methods because some DMT will almost always burn. It is the nature of this Route of administration)

You can put crystals directly in there via sandwich method.

Or infuse into herbs.

It is completely up to you.

I'd recommend looking into all these options and decide what is most practical for your situation. Personally, I love enhanced leaf and changa but many swear by the sandwich method, which is the quickest route.
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Tara123
#5 Posted : 8/9/2018 9:18:19 PM

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TGO wrote:
No problem, sometimes terminology is weird so let me put it this way:

Think of the "cherry" as something that is smoldering, like the lit end of someone's cigarette or joint. You want it to be an ember, not totally destroyed by open flames. So light a small portion of your enhanced leaf so it starts burning as an ember, then coupled with the long drags, the heat will pass over the DMT, vaporizing it while simultaneously (and slowly) burning your leaf.

(Note: People often load a little extra with these methods because some DMT will almost always burn. It is the nature of this Route of administration)

You can put crystals directly in there via sandwich method.

Or infuse into herbs.

It is completely up to you.

I'd recommend looking into all these options and decide what is most practical for your situation. Personally, I love enhanced leaf and changa but many swear by the sandwich method, which is the quickest route.


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#6 Posted : 8/9/2018 9:46:50 PM

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Tara123 wrote:


However, in the meantime, would it work to just use the water bong that I would normally smoke weed out of?

If this is the case, am I just using the bong in the same way that I would do to smoke weed?

Any advice on this for a first timer is much appreciated, thanks.

Love


Yup a water bong can be a very powerful way to smoke dmt.

Sandwich is a good method for sure, but might take a few tries to figure out lighter distance, pull speed of the draw in of breath, herb layer thickness for bottom & top etc, but once it's dialed in it can work very very well.

Another good method that I've done (before ever making e-leaf or changa) is pack a relatively tight (though still being able to draw air through reasonably well) bottom layer of herb, stick the dmt xtals on top, wave the lighter a good distance above the xtals possibly moving closer in order for them to melt in the herb, then once the dmt turns liquid/y then carefully try to just light the top of the now infused herb, long and slowww (but full) tokes, deep into the lungs, hold each hit for as long as possible, or until you're completely unable to take another.

I've said this in other posts ..but make sure to use as cold of water as you can get, ice ice cold.

*maybe drink a tad bit of that ice cold water before you smoke even Big grin

hope it all goes well for you, report back
 
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#7 Posted : 8/10/2018 8:05:01 AM

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tatt wrote:
Tara123 wrote:


However, in the meantime, would it work to just use the water bong that I would normally smoke weed out of?

If this is the case, am I just using the bong in the same way that I would do to smoke weed?

Any advice on this for a first timer is much appreciated, thanks.

Love


Yup a water bong can be a very powerful way to smoke dmt.

Sandwich is a good method for sure, but might take a few tries to figure out lighter distance, pull speed of the draw in of breath, herb layer thickness for bottom & top etc, but once it's dialed in it can work very very well.

Another good method that I've done (before ever making e-leaf or changa) is pack a relatively tight (though still being able to draw air through reasonably well) bottom layer of herb, stick the dmt xtals on top, wave the lighter a good distance above the xtals possibly moving closer in order for them to melt in the herb, then once the dmt turns liquid/y then carefully try to just light the top of the now infused herb, long and slowww (but full) tokes, deep into the lungs, hold each hit for as long as possible, or until you're completely unable to take another.

I've said this in other posts ..but make sure to use as cold of water as you can get, ice ice cold.

*maybe drink a tad bit of that ice cold water before you smoke even Big grin

hope it all goes well for you, report back


Thanks Tatt, that sounds like an interesting method, I'll give it a go!

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I was wondering the same thing. Thanks for making the post, Tara123, and massive thanks to TGO and tatterman for the sound advice.

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I was wondering the same thing. Thanks for making the post, Tara123, and massive thanks to TGO and tatterman for the sound advice.

Love you all. Love


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Another tip: have someone or something close by to catch the bong from you after you take your hits. I used a bong when I first started seriously using DMT and was sometimes surprised at just how fast it hit me.

Dropping and potentially breaking your bong (or just getting water and leaf all over the place) will likely not be conducive for a great trip. It can be very comforting, in my opinion, to have a trusted friend there to take the bong safely out of your hands as you lay back for the ride.

Good luck and enjoy!
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Tara123
#11 Posted : 8/14/2018 9:17:27 AM

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To report back on this thread.

I am pleased to report that my first extraction worked with Cyb's salt tek (thank you Cyb) and I had my first go at smoking last night.

I've attached a picture of the smoking device. Peppermint was the herb of choice (which I got out of some nice organic peppermint tea bags) in order to make a spice sandwich.

I can see that it's going to take a bit of time before I get the technique right. A couple of times I think I burnt the spice (made me cough) or I just didn't get the inhalation technique right.

My last attempt was the most successful. I waited an hour from my last attempt (just incase of any tolerance). I lit the peppermint on the top a little bit and then took a long, slow inhale with my finger covering the shottie. When I had enough, I exhaled, putting my finger over the mouthpiece to prevent the vapour escaping. I then took another inhale, with the shottie open, to clear the chamber.

I felt a mild buzz for around 5 mins but no visuals or anything yet. I am only working with 10mg of spice each time at the moment. I want to get the technique right. I'm also quite scared haha so need to take it slow Laughing

I think I got an idea of what's to come. I was a really strange 5 minutes. Different to the mushroom trips I've done. More scary/intense. But fun Wink

Thanks for all the advice on this and other threads regarding smoking technique, it's totally priceless!

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#12 Posted : 8/14/2018 9:24:56 AM

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Wow what a beautiful bowl Shocked

I'm just waiting on a new batch of ACRB, gonna have my second attempt at extracting soon.

Be well. Love
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