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Storage and expiration of goey/waxy Amber mescaline Options
 
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#1 Posted : 4/11/2017 5:04:44 PM
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Does anyone know how long this stuff keeps it's potency. SWIM definitely needs a break from tripping but for sure doesn't want this stuff to expire because of the cost and work SWIM has put into extracting it and buying the materials.

Sorry if this has been asked before, but SWIM has looked and could only find info on storing powder forms. Just to clarify, this is the the brown/amber stuff that comes from the below extraction (but not further purified):

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...ene_Mescaline_Extraction

Currently, SWIM has been storing it in the fridge for a month or so. He/she took 300mg of it 10 days ago, and it definitely worked.
 

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In general, light, heat, and air are what cause alkaloids to degrade. I've kept mescaline acetate in an airtight container in the fridge for over a year with no noticeable loss in potency. The freezer is better for longer storage of course.

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#3 Posted : 4/12/2017 4:46:08 PM

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Yeah I use the freezer, especially if you have a goo or resin, it makes it much easier to handle when its solid. Just break it up and swallow it like pills
 
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Might even crystallise while you wait.




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#5 Posted : 4/25/2017 5:15:03 AM

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left open it will become more xtal like
if its black goo, too much acid and it won't get that much nicer
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#6 Posted : 4/25/2017 2:34:28 PM
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It sounds like you have the citrate salt of mescaline, no? Or possibly the acetate salt?

(though the acetate salt will generally resemble pencil shavings. The citrate salt will generally be a light gold powder, the hydrochloride salt generally will be translucent rectangular crystals, the sulfate looks almost like white Styrofoam clumps, and so on... oh, if it's a black or dark "goo" it's likely a total alkaloid extract...these are simple generalizations and there are always exceptions)

Mescaline should not easily deteriorate, I'm pretty sure mescaline is not amenable to autoxidation, and in my experience even when stored poorly it has seemed to hold up quite well.

For example, Ancient peyote samples still contained mescaline when tested:

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Peyote alkaloids: identification in a prehistoric specimen of lophophora from coahuila, Mexico
Abstract
Mescaline, anhalonine, lophophorine, pellotine, and anhalonidine have been identified in alkaloid extracts of a prehistoric specimen of Lophophora from a burial cave in west central Coahuila, Mexico. The specimen is associated with radiocarbon dates of A.D. 810 to 1070 and is one of the oldest materials ever submitted to alkaloid analysis.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17796678

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Prehistoric peyote use: alkaloid analysis and radiocarbon dating of archaeological specimens of Lophophora from Texas.

Abstract
Two archaeological specimens of peyote buttons, i.e. dried tops of the cactus Lophophora williamsii (Lem.) Coulter, from the collection of the Witte Museum in San Antonio, was subjected to radiocarbon dating and alkaloid analysis. The samples were presumably found in Shumla Cave No. 5 on the Rio Grande, Texas. Radiocarbon dating shows that the calibrated 14C age of the weighted mean of the two individual dated samples corresponds to the calendric time interval 3780-3660 BC (one sigma significance). Alkaloid extraction yielded approximately 2% of alkaloids. Analysis with thin-layer chromatography (TLC) and gas chromatography-mass spectrometry (GC-MS) led to the identification of mescaline in both samples. No other peyote alkaloids could be identified. The two peyote samples appear to be the oldest plant drug ever to yield a major bioactive compound upon chemical analysis. The identification of mescaline strengthens the evidence that native North Americans recognized the psychotropic properties of peyote as long as 5700 years ago.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15990261


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