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Brennendes Wasser wrote:At what stage do you actually filter the Harmalas? Right after reduction, but then I also vacuum filter between basically every step, including the five manskes. There is so much stuff in rue, and hard to get it all out. I work with whole seeds, leaves enough of a mess in my opinion. If you look at VDS yield, he didn't get a big bump from the extraction he did with blended seeds instead of whole, so I'm ok with it.
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Jees wrote:Can't discern the globes on the THH picture, but if the harmaline is gone (which is clearly the case) then it can't really go else than THH I presume. That's my hope! I certainly seems to be active in the way advertised. BongQuixote wrote:...Harmaline: Like harmine, but 4 times stronger MAOI...I've been searching a long time for articles about claims in that sense, if anyone has links to studies or so ...... you're very much appreciated  I've just read it all over this forum in many different threads, but I don't have a source apart from hearsay.
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Supetramp
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King Tryptamine wrote:
The source you linked made no mention of the MAOI(s) used and whether or not the type of MAOI being used was the reversible kind as is the case with harmine or moclobemide or the irreversible kind such phenelzine. There's a major difference between the safety of the two types.
There are plenty of reverences if you scroll down the page. They talk mosly about the issue with RIMAs.
You are right they talk about the bigger quantities or specially aged foods but what if one eats pickled foods or supplements Tyrosin for instance. It's definitely better to read about the foods to avoid before consuming any MAOI imo. ...so forth and so on...
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Supetramp
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The next time I do it, I gonna split the seeds into half pounds and grind only half of it  . I also got some seed extract it says >10% alkaloids on the package I'm curious if this works..then the filtering would be worth its while for sure. ...so forth and so on...
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BongQuixote wrote:Jees wrote:Can't discern the globes on the THH picture, but if the harmaline is gone (which is clearly the case) then it can't really go else than THH I presume. That's my hope! I certainly seems to be active in the way advertised. BongQuixote wrote:...Harmaline: Like harmine, but 4 times stronger MAOI...I've been searching a long time for articles about claims in that sense, if anyone has links to studies or so ...... you're very much appreciated I've just read it all over this forum in many different threads, but I don't have a source apart from hearsay. I think Harmine and Harmaline are roughly equivalent in MAO-A inhibition. In rue seeds ~ 90% of inhibition is from Harmine/Harmaline. Also, ~ 10% is from Harmalol which most of us dump down the drain as basified tea (it's difficult but not impossible to extract). “... (a) psychedelic substance occasionally causes psychotic behaviour in people who have not taken it.”Excerpt from a McKenna talk transcript / audio.
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Loveall wrote:Hey Jees, have you seem the attached paper?...Cheers. Yes, a long time ago I mentioned it in this thread, and elsewhere, asking for hints. https://www.dmt-nexus.me...amp;m=764294#post764294
Wonder, maybe because harmaline is more taxing than harmine, then a mixup happens between 'taxing' and 'maoi'?
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Jees wrote:Loveall wrote:Hey Jees, have you seem the attached paper?...Cheers. Yes, a long time ago I mentioned it in this thread, and elsewhere, asking for hints. https://www.dmt-nexus.me...amp;m=764294#post764294
Wonder, maybe because harmaline is more taxing than harmine, then a mixup happens between 'taxing' and 'maoi'? Though you may have already, and you showed the same plot 👍 “... (a) psychedelic substance occasionally causes psychotic behaviour in people who have not taken it.”Excerpt from a McKenna talk transcript / audio.
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downwardsfromzero wrote:
I'm currently working on ascertaining if there is a difference in alkaloid profile between material which has been extracted using ascorbic acid and that which has had a less strongly reducing acid. Subjectively, harmala decoction with ascorbic acid seems to be more euphoric. I'll abstain from speculation at this point but the plan is to see whether there is a greater amount of THH present in the ascorbic acid brew.
Somewhat OT, but if this works, it would be interesting to see if using ascorbic acid instead of vinegar in the acid step of A/B DMT extractions (especially with aged material) increases yield. Did your rue extraction involve heat? Ascorbic acid is rather sensitive to heat.
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