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Thick n light tek
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Roommate got impatient and added lye without reducing the proper amount.
End result...2 gallons roughly.
Is it too late to reduce?
Now that product is a base, will heat for hours to reduce volume have an effect?
Negative effect that is?
How is this situation resolved?
Thank you
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Acacia confusa
Combination of root and trunk
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From my understanding now that the dmt is in its freebase form it WILL evaporate with the water if reduced. :/
Solution? Use a witches cauldron and a big stick to stir in the solvent viciously? Dont forget to cackle menacingly and add aome eye of newt...
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was wondering about this also. i while ago was in the same situation, did the mistake of trying to pull from it. loads of pulls, and yield was extremely low 
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What if I put in lots of pans and let natural evaporation do it's thing?
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I have had this happen before, the only way is to keep adding hydrolchloric acid untill the PH changes. I ended up using about 1 and a half litres before a big tub was reconverted back to acid.
Lets hope your roommate didnt add that much... better yet, let him fork out the bill for the extra HcL you are gonna have to buy. Viniger wont do the job I don;t think as it is not concentrated enough... you would need like 50 litres of viniger for it too reconvert lol
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jerkjake wrote:What if I put in lots of pans and let natural evaporation do it's thing? how long you got to live?  better off watching grass grow, 50 times over...
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n0thing wrote:jerkjake wrote:What if I put in lots of pans and let natural evaporation do it's thing? how long you got to live? better off watching grass grow, 50 times over... I have 2 quarts. So...get Ph back to 4. Evaporation. Then ad base again? Thank you
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Don't boil the basified soup, the heat makes the base very corrosive and it is uncertain if the molecule will survive that.
Stir well when neutralizing with concentrated HCl, and cool the soup and the HCl beforehand. The neutralization reaction generates plenty of heat and neither hot base nor hot HCl are very good for dmt. Most importantly, protect your eyes from splatters!
The resulting neutralized soup, when reduced, may contain such a high concentration of sodium chloride, that the sodium chloride could precipitate upon cooling, especially so after lye is added again to re-basify. Don't worry about that, it'll help mixing when shaking with non-polar solvent.
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Ok. I apreciate the help.
But this makes nk sense.
How the hell do I reduce "neutralized soup" if heat is harmful?
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dysfunctional word machine
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Heat is harmful while the soup is still highly basic or highly acidic. When neutral or near neutral, the soup can withstand the heat.
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Awesome.
So use hcl to get it to 7?
Then evap?
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