light pink. smelled fishy/floral.

My spice is always slightly yellow. What is gives differs tremendously from trip to trip.

No discrimination here

My bet is nobody could tell any of them apart if doing a blind test..


But feel free to prove me wrong

Golden teacher and Cambodians. Even though Cambodians tend to be a bit "darker" and "cynical" at times. As for potency...B+ but they are not so visual!

...oops, wrong forum.

True and because of this white or clear are the best. Because its a more pure/clean substance. White DMT is also less harsh on the lungs and is usually more potent by weight. Personally I really care about my health and feel that a re-x is important.

This is only my opinion. I know that some of you love gooey/yellow dmt so try not 2 get upset lol

Less harsh yes but regarding potency my experience is opposite.

I think you said the opposite of what I said lol

DMT is polymorphic, even pure DMT can be a yellow oil. Unless you test it with some analytical method, I think claims of purity are speculation at best.

the only way to definitively determine the conformations about the alpha carbon is with x-ray crystallography.
and even then, ratios of conformations aren't any indication of purity.

is there any research data correlating binding affinities with respect to those conformations?

No data AFAIK.
Just to make myself clear, I mentioned the use of analytical methods to acess the purity, not the conformation. The comment about polymorphism is just to state that outward appearance of a substance looking by naked eye doesn't necessarily bear any relation to purity.

Agreed.

I doubt they would be distinguishable from one another in a blind test.

Color is actually a very poor gauge for potency or purity of the dimethyltryptamine.

Dimethyltryptamine is almost certainly polymorphic, there can be pure DMT which is yellow, and there can be pure DMT which is translucent. Polymorphism has also been put forward as a means to explain variable melting points published for the compound.

The research below details this property of dimethyltryptamine:



It's also speculated that residual oils or plant lipids may in fact aide in the vaporization of the dimethyltryptamine, and though they may be minor impurities, they may not entirely unwanted.

Most will still prefer translucent crystals.

My most intense experience was facilitated by a large dose of lightly yellow tinted translucent crystals of Dimethyltryptamine freebase.

-eg

Color is a very poor indication of purity or potency. DMT is almost certainly polymorphic, and may exist in pure form in both yellow and translucent color. I outlined this in my last post and I believe endlessness mentioned this before myself.

Residual oils plant and lipids may actually aide in vaporization of the compound, making it vaporize more effectively, providing a smoother inhalation... though most chemistry enthusiasts feel every thing should be purified regardless...

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...spx?g=posts&t=11715
The thread above is very informative regarding the color of dimethyltryptamine and what it may indicate, I highly recommend it.

-eg

I do not like "gooey" dimethyltryptamine, I feel this almost certainly indicates an abundance of impurities, oils, lipids, N-methyl-tryptamine (NMT is an issue encountered with ACRB, it's not present in MHRB) residual solvent, perhaps you used a solvent that did not evaporate cleanly...a number of things could be the cause, regardless I feel pure DMT free base will be crystalline, regardless of color.

-eg

Arent you contradicting yourself there? First you talk about how DMT can be polymorphic (as had been already linked earlier in the thread but maybe you missed?), and then your last post you try to relate the appearance to the content/purity? That was exactly the point before, that the appearance does NOT necessarily relate to the content/purity. That publication about DMT's polymorphism clearly states that pure DMT can be yellow oil, not crystalline, so I dont understand how you "feel pure DMT freebase will be crystalline".

By the way, NMT is present in Mimosa too, just in smaller quantities than Acacia. But small quantities of other products which might not be enough to feel subjectively the difference but yet can also affect crystallization, which adds yet another factor to further complicates the idea that you can judge the purity by the looks

AFAIK, my favorite color of DMT is rainbow pluto; that's the color I get whenever I take a great big rippa changa which then leads me off down the rabbit hole and into Plato's fractalline cave of knowledge and platypus people.

I changatize all the spice I get from the freeze-precip STAT; I don't bother to add food dyes and what-nutt to my creation(s); so as long as I get something which won't damage my brizzain too much, it's gonna get sucked up into a puddle of harmala-ridden acetone and infused into whatever uninfected/clean/kosher dried herbs I have at hand into a changalicious concoffany which even Zeus' ego couldn't care to compare itself to!

IDGAF about the color, shape or size of my Xtals; so as long as they make for a good, non-carcinogenic, non-toxic, mind-blowingly beautiful batch of changalicious perfection, all colors of Xtals are my favorite flavor of Xtals (as long as they originate from a PV, MHRB, and/or chaliponga extraction! I hate NMT-laced changa blends... )

Funny, i have a yet untested acrb changa that i lowered the harmalas in just because of that NMT bodyload. Orange goo from an ethanol extraction, itching for the right time.

You can't judge purity just by looks, but you can gain some insight regarding it, color means nothing, unless it's like blue or something, but texture and consistency does tell a piece of the story... if the product is an oil at room temperture, and if it's not a solid at a constant weight, and was produced by standard extraction techniques, then there's a good chance that there's residual lipids and oils, residual solvent, possibly a solvent which does not evaporate cleanly was used, trace alkaloids, and so on...

So No, I don't think I contradicted myself, I may have chosen better wording, but I don't see any contradiction.

I said color is a poor indicator of potency or purity.

The research I posted never mentions pure DMT freebase as an oil...after a text search of the text the word "oil" was only found twice, once in the reference section, and once here:

http://www.sciencedirect...S0026265X13000544#t0005
This table elucidates the end state of the DMT after re-crystallization.
amorphous or waxy dimethyltryptamine is still a solid product, crystalline May have been a poor choice of words, as at times your end product may be a Pale amorphous solid or have a waxy texture... Though I distinguish this state from an "oily" or "gooey" product.

While in some situations it's said pure DMT can be an oil at room temperature, how often is that the case from general extraction techniques? oily or gooey DMT can actually be a decent approximate indicator as to whether the extract was properly preformed, and if it contains potential contaminants...

Though MHRB contains minor amounts of NMT, it seems that with ACRB NMT resulting in an oily product is common, while with MHRB it's a generally a non-issue.

It's not like visual examination is accurate, but if something doesn't look right it's best to ask some questions, no?




-eg