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ManicMongrel
#1 Posted : 1/9/2016 12:36:02 PM
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I have been looking into hardware to use as an electronic vaporizer, not for the sake of saving cash or discrediting other praised hardware like GVG og vulcano-type vaporizers, but rather for the sheer fun of tinkering and tweaking. Figuring out the middle ground between theory and practice when it comes to convective heating and gentle vaporisation etc.

After digging around on Aliexpress (aka communist Ebay, pun intended), I got a hot air gun station for soldering with adjustable temperature (100-450⁰C) and air flow (up to 120L/min). http://www.aliexpress.co...ade-from/1966416691.html

Judging from the building materials, it doesn't seem contain any lead, mercury, chrome or other nasty stuff. The heater element is basically just a resistive coil wrapped in a tube of mica foil, with a small brush-less fan supplying air flow and a stainless steel tube as outer support. I looked up material data on the mica foil and it seems to be basic mica from what I can tell, heat resistant and without toxins. I'm willing to take my chances, though I can't confirm it's totally idiot proof regarding potential health risks.

There is a few drawbacks of course, I had to run it a while before the air stopped smelling of plastic. Hopefully I got most of the residual solvents from production out.

As pipe for the changa, I have a 24/29 glass dripper for lab glass condensers, some tin foil for hookahs and a pad carved out of a ceramic foam filter disk for molten metal (zircona ceramics). The filter disc isn't all that necessary, but you can make two of them for $12.5 + $10.2 shipping to Europe.

After trying different temperatures I found that 165⁰C seems to work ok, first I preheat the changa with low air flow at about 160⁰C, then I flick it up to 165⁰C and add more air flow until the pipe is filled with dense white fog.

This works surprisingly well so far.

Next I'm going to try using oven turkey bags like Ann does in here: https://www.dmt-nexus.me...&m=700090#post700090 She beat me to it obviously, at least with using hot air guns with thermostat and adjustable temp. If there is any notable differences concept wise, then I prefer to have more room for tweaking the air flow.

Money spent so far (roughly):

Hot air gun station, $48
Ceramic foam disc (optional), $12.5+$10.2
24/29 adapter, condenser tap, $6



(On a side note, I got a feeling the origin of vulcano-type vaporizers had something to do with stoners who couldn't be assed to hold a air gun while filling up owen bags with vapor, as well as being prone to finger burns.)
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null24
#2 Posted : 1/9/2016 6:47:41 PM

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Nifty.
What were the costs involved for the components?
Keep us posted as to your results.
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anne halonium
#3 Posted : 1/9/2016 8:16:21 PM

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ManicMongrel wrote:


Next I'm going to try using oven turkey bags like Ann does in here: https://www.dmt-nexus.me...&m=700090#post700090



lol
barking the bagfish.........

actually the good heat guns are easy handling,
we run them at 360 and the bags inflate fast.

here at annie labs, we demand serious performance.
"loph girl incarnate / lab rabbits included"
kids dont try anything annie does at home ,
for for scientific / educational review only.
 
ManicMongrel
#4 Posted : 1/9/2016 8:23:35 PM
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null24 wrote:
Nifty.
What were the costs involved for the components?
Keep us posted as to your results.
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I added the cash spent so far, which is about $78.

At least it's a fully functional electronic spice/changa vaporizer. Next it's time to see if bagging the vapor brings anything to the table.
 
anne halonium
#5 Posted : 1/9/2016 8:29:22 PM

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i think i paid 79 bux for the heat gun...........
"loph girl incarnate / lab rabbits included"
kids dont try anything annie does at home ,
for for scientific / educational review only.
 
ManicMongrel
#6 Posted : 1/9/2016 9:42:35 PM
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anne halonium wrote:
ManicMongrel wrote:


Next I'm going to try using oven turkey bags like Ann does in here: https://www.dmt-nexus.me...&m=700090#post700090



lol
barking the bagfish.........

actually the good heat guns are easy handling,
we run them at 360 and the bags inflate fast.

here at annie labs, we demand serious performance.


I believe you, it sure looks like a full balloon from that setup of yours would get several people pretty baked.

With spice I think it's enough to serve one person at a time lol, at least for now.
 
ManicMongrel
#7 Posted : 1/14/2016 10:12:07 AM
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Did another couple of test runs, first heating the spice @ 150⁰C until a thin stream of fumes start to seep out of the nozzle, then raising it to 165⁰C and proceed to fill up a oven bag with spice vapor.

Some changa and fresh spice was sandwiched between two fluffy layers of damiana. There wasn't any detectable smell of spice left in the pot afterwards, so the vaporizing seems to reasonably efficient. Personally I find damiana to be awesome as an inert bedding herb, the spice vapor feels even smoother to take in and taste pretty nice as well.

Inhaling the vapor was very gentle, especially for people like me who rarely ever smoke and has lungs that gets irritated even by pot.

This turned out to be a simple and practical way to raise the intensity step by step for each toke from the bag. Really good fun to pass the bag around the table too.

I guess this could be called bagged breakthrough if you like.

All in all I have to say Ann's trick of using oven bags turned out to be very practical for dmt.

 
 
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