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#21 Posted : 11/30/2015 6:03:30 AM
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KlustoR, about how much dmt did you take for abort an attack and in what form ? it's like a treshold dose ?

I'm eppisodic and i don't tried yet because SHE don't still want to came this winter, maybe my previous experiment with subdoses os lsa and some very little ammount of dmt, almost none visual effect, bring SHE away, i hope so, but it's a very bad beast.

I'm not sure about the dosage, but i would say its more towards the 30/40mg range.
I only do one big lungs full toke, and usually thats more then enough, and most of the times there is plenty left if i should it feel comming back, i can fire my machine up straight away.

I should note that altough it does abort the individual attack, i've had attacks returning after couple of hours.. Its rare, but it happends, usually if it works, i'm good for a few hours.
Its no preventative tho, attacks will come back in the same severity as before, they also don't increase after multiple daily usage.

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Thanks, yes i would try to use dmt for abort an attack....if came the beast i've some changa and dmt goo, for preventive use i'm trying with lsa now.
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#23 Posted : 12/1/2015 12:44:08 AM
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Let us all just hope it doesn't come back, and there is no need for you to test it Pleased
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#24 Posted : 1/6/2016 8:12:08 PM

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How do you use salvia plain leaves in this context Metonia, smoked in bong or quidded ?
Almost always smoked in a bong. I have actually begun to deliberately take days off so that I'm only using Salvia about twice a week now. Still, no migraines or serious depression.

I just read this article and wanted to share it here, brought tears to my eyes more than once.
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That is some interesting reading.

I really do feel for cluster headache sufferers, I suffer from chronic migraine and it has a huge impact upon my life, sociability and my career. I can only begin to imagine what cluster headache sufferers go though....

Most of the links mentioned above mainly cover cluster headaches and not migraine, do we know if Changa has had any impact on the severity or frequency of chronic migraines also?

I only use freebase, I am reluctant to try anything with any kind of MAOI due to the treatments that I take for migraine prevention. My doctor went through all of the common legal, medicinal treatments:

- Sumatriptan (I take these as and when required)
- Propranolol (beta-blocker, had little impact on migraine occurance)
- Topiromate (Anti-epileptic drug, had some impact but it made my eyes itch like crazy)
- Amitriptyline (Anti-depressent in high doses, currently on 50mg a day and it does help, though doesn't prevent them completely).

I obviously can't take an MAOI whilst taking a tricyclic antidepressant, but if evidence suggests Changa also helps with migraine as well as cluster migraine then I'll happily be yet another guinea pig.
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#26 Posted : 1/29/2016 4:10:36 PM

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I've been experimenting with mescaline as a potential treatment, seems rather ignored in this arena. So far seems to have preventive effects around 150mg hcl. It seems to have interrupted a cycle.
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#27 Posted : 8/28/2016 4:24:16 PM
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A link I just came across.

[Didn't look through these couple pages to see if this has been covered, so im sorry]
#28 Posted : 12/27/2016 4:48:56 PM

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Fittonia albavenis has been a tremendous help with my TBI headaches. Russo reported it was used as a ayahuasca admixture too. Anyone know the chemistry of this wonderful plant?
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#29 Posted : 12/28/2016 3:20:13 PM
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Russo reported it was used as a ayahuasca admixture too.

thanx for the info.

i would like to try it for cluster headaches... but i have no clue as to where to buy it. where do you buy yours?

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bohoa wrote:
Russo reported it was used as a ayahuasca admixture too.

thanx for the info.

i would like to try it for cluster headaches... but i have no clue as to where to buy it. where do you buy yours?

It's a fairly common grocery store or nursery plant. My SO saw it at the grocery store and thought it looked cool. If you can't find anything let me know. When I get propagating it down I'll send you a cutting.
#31 Posted : 4/4/2017 9:15:04 AM

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I used to have suicidal headaches. They lasted for hours upon endless hours. Usually at night, lasting 2 or 3 nights in a row.

They were so bad, I couldn't sit, stand, lay down, or even THINK. All I wanted was for it to stop! I'm against taking pills - but as a last resort I used to take 2 or 3 codeine containing pills to get the pain from 100 down to 60 or 70 so I could think.

Scalp self massaging worked to get it from 60 down to 20 or 30 which seemed like haven compared to 60. But self massaging only worked if I could concentrate - and I couldn't do that at 100.

The only real cure I found was prevention. Changing my lifestyle, doing sports, yoga, breathing exercises with movement. Because, if I would get that 100% migraine, I was hopeless and couldn't concentrate on ANYTHING except telling myself it's temporary.

It's important do always know that's it will pass.

Doing sports, yoga, adequate nutrition, anything to improve the elasticity of blood vessels is the only real cure.

I hope this helps as nobody should ever experience the hell that is cluster headaches.
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The Kofan and Siona-Secoya tribes of the Ecuadorian Amazon use F. albivenis as a treatment for headaches, and its leaves were used by the Machiguenga as a hallucinogen before they were introduced to Psychotria viridis. They are said to "produce visions of eyeballs."

Interesting... another one to look out for (and deserving of its own thread).

Threads found at the nexus:;m=500403#post500403;m=424031#post424031

No record indicates that the species nor its genus have been chemically studied.

Another opportunity for pushing back the foreskin of science, to borrow Shulgin's phrase!
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#33 Posted : 6/3/2017 11:10:57 AM

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Psilocybin works for me. Heard of this effect on Cluster HAs in MAPS/etc articles, so as I began ceremonial trips after a long break from Spirit Fungi, I watched over a few months to see what occurred. Most of my life, had bad complex headaches: tension, osteoarthritis~neck issues, vascular. My dose: 3.5/6 grms but microdosing's reported as effective in research & anecdotally.

Within 4-5 months, dosing each 3 weeks, noticed Cluster headaches were out of the mix. Cool After a series of colds in late winter, I'd stopped for about 7 weeks & they returned, distinctly. I'd a string of horrid H.A.'s. 1 dose after this, halted the episodes clearly.

Reported this to Clusterbusters at PS17. Research by Heffter & Beckley show Psilocybin & moreover LSD / Lysergimides also work very well & for some 1 dose lasts months! Sumatriptan (Imitrex) never worked for me, even on vascular HAs & had bad side effects: chest pains, breathing issues I never have. Look to try LSD @ 100-150um dose followed by microdosing each 3 days for a month & see how if my other types of headaches are effected. Will follow up. My best to all on DMT-Nexus: Great forum!
#34 Posted : 6/29/2017 5:07:38 AM
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I wanted to come by and report a successful bust of a cluster cycle! I've been dealing with cluster headaches for close to ten years. I can generally see them coming a few weeks before they hit in a form of "shadows". 50 untreated morning glory seeds were ground up in a mortar and a 50/50 solution of water and lemon juice was poured over the seeds and sat in the fridge for two hours. It took about 30 minutes to kick in and the effects were like night and day. A great pressure was released in my head and I was able to function normally once more. Only a slight buzz was felt. One more dose was prepared and sat in the fridge for the next day.

I continued this process for 5 days, even though I overcame the worst of my cluster headaches a lingering headache did remain every morning. On the last day I prepared some san pedro and had a ceremony. After the San Pedro I completely aborted my cluster.

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#35 Posted : 8/17/2019 3:26:35 PM
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DMT 100% CURE! for Cluster migraines

I have personally Experimented and cured a family member of cluster migraines. And when I say cure I mean no more treatments required period.

Cluster headaches: are an excruciating form of headaches, that go beyond even the debilitating pain of migraines. Clinically a different type of headache altogether, they are characterized by severe, intense pain focused on one side of the head.
An episode can last several hours and can reoccur within a short time period, even several times within the same day. Around 1 in 500 people suffer from cluster headaches, and some report that their headaches are more painful than childbirth.

Just before I went to visit my father had no idea that he had been suffering from Chronic Cluster migraines for over 8 years in 3 to 4-month bouts with between 9 to 14 months between them. He was very quiet about it.

On my arrival, he was in the middle of a very bad bout and could not leave home without an oxygen bottle near him as they were occurring several times a day and lasting for between 20 and 45 minutes. Traditional medicine, prescribed by his neurologist was having no effect. The effects on his quality of life were detrimental. After some research on the net, we heard rumors that Lsd had some positive effects on cluster migraines. I suggested, "Why not try DMT". It was perfect timing, I had only learned about DMT a few months prior. He was ready to do anything at all to free himself of this debilitating illness. So I went about extracting, luckily it went very well and we ended up with some perfectly white/clear DMT crystals.

I left him in a quiet room after he had his first dose, Clearly, he had broken through! using a homemade coke bottle lung bong, inhaling an approximately 10 - 20mg of evaporated cloud in one breath-holding it in for over 20 sec. I returned to the room and almost at exactly 5 min he awoke wide-eyed and nodded "Wow that was really something!"

Unfortunately that night he described suffering one of the worse attacks that he's ever had, and we almost decided to stop experimenting. But a thought occurred to me later. What if it was working but needed more "hits" to finish the job. Wouldn't it be a shame if this was the answer but we stopped what we were doing because it appeared to cause migraines? I even jokingly commented, "The demon knows your trying to kill it and its fighting back". My father was of the attitude that even if there was a very slight 1% chance that this could be true he would like to continue just to be sure, as he would do anything to get rid of the migraine that had been ruining his life for so long, what difference would 1 more night of debilitating pain be.

Two more sessions later and my father experienced his first day without an attack in over 3 months!

After I left he finished off the last of the DMT over a period of a week or so and has not had a migraine since... That was 6 years ago.. with no further treatment required to this date.

I've shared this before. I hope this share finds its way to the right people. The stories I've heard about from my father's group are very sad he would tell me that it was very common that people would just disappear from the support group. He never told me himself but his other 1/2 told me stories about him running as fast as he could headfirst into a wall to try and knock himself out.

The suicide rate of people that suffer from cluster migraines is 40%.

According to Western Medicine, Cronic Cluster migraine is an incurable disease. DMT was the answer for us.

Good luck I hope it can help you too.

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