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Tobacco extraction (WTA for vaping) - let's develop a tek? Options
 
embracethevoid
#1 Posted : 10/12/2014 2:26:03 PM

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This dude made a WTA liquid at home: http://www.vapersforum.c...-Alkaloid-eLiquid/page11

WTA is Whole Tobacco Alkaloid - a full spectrum alkaloid extract of tobacco as opposed to just the nicotine alone. It's useful because it satisfies fully the tobacco craving for people who want to switch to e-cigs, whereas nicotine alone does not.

I was wondering how we could develop a simple tek for some crude WTA? The cost of WTA liquid is obscene - $1/ml. At that rate I don't mind running my own crude extraction. I don't care about having anything super duper mega refined, I just want to be looking at a dropperful of oil which I can vaporise instead of huffing nasty tar powder clouds all day. Who's with me?
 

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#2 Posted : 10/12/2014 3:28:36 PM

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Ripped from ecf megathread:

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I have just made another batch of WTA liquid, using an adaptation of this method. Done well - and with patience - it certainly works and provides a juice that reaches parts other juices can't (with apologies to Carlsberg).

Firstly I invested in a very cheap booklet of Ph level papers. This has been a huge help in getting the various stages right.

PREPARE
1) I boiled up 25g of ground rolling tobacco in about 250ml of water and 2 teaspoons of sodium carbonate. After 10 minutes simmering, I cooled the mix and filtered it through some cotton cloth. This was easy as the mix was creamy in consistency.

2) I returned the filtered liquid to the pan and reduced it further... till it began to stiffen. I diluted this a bit with fresh water and - using a Ph paper - made sure it tested blue (alkaline) before pouring the mix (about 25ml) in a glass jar.

SEPARATE
3) To the water solution I added a similar amount of olive oil. I shook it and let separate three times over an 8 hour period.

3) I syringed off the oil into a clean bottle and added more oil to the old water solution - shaking and separating it twice over an hour. I then syringed off this oil adding it to the first lot. I discarded the water solution.

4) I took some fresh (ie distilled) water mixed with a few drops of white vinegar to about 20ml and tested to ensure its acidity (paper turns red). I then added this to the oil and shook.

5) After several shakings over 3 hours, I drew off the water solution with the syringe. I placed 10ml more of the water/vinegar solution into the old oil and repeated the process - adding the (now, lighter-coloured) water to the first amount. I discarded the old oil.

6) I then tested the water solution with a Ph paper and it showed a reduced acidity. I added a couple of small pinches of sodium carbonate to the water until it tested blue (alkaline) before mixing in with an equal amount of fresh olive oil and repeated the shaking/settling routine over a few hours. I drew off the oil into a clean bottle. I placed about 10ml of fresh oil into the old water solution and repeated the shake/separate routine several times before drawing off this oil and adding it to the first amount. I discarded the old water solution.

7) I repeated steps 4 to 5. I ended up with about 12 ml of light, strawberry blonde water solution. It wasn't crystal clear... but not far off!

REDUCE
Cool I tested the solution with a Ph paper and added a few grains of sodium carbonate to equalise it. I placed the solution into a small stainless steel pot (a tiny milk jug) and reduced it down over a flame to about 3 - 4ml. By this stage I was wearing rubber gloves! I bottled this.

I added about four drops to about 7ml of 24mg commercial juice and vaped. I can feel it works very well. The effect is completely different to the commercial juice alone.

This may sound complicated, but it's not. I'm trying to work out a simple way of remembering the routines - like a short rhyme or something.
 
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#3 Posted : 1/22/2015 7:01:03 PM

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I don't know how pure the resulting extraction but pure nicotine is very poisonous (even deadly) and can be absorbed through the skin. So handle with care and do your research beforehand. A while ago I was thinking about infusing nicotine into dabs, but gave up due to safety issues.
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