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smoking dirty dmt. Options
 
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#1 Posted : 8/25/2007 7:00:33 AM
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is it severly harmful to smoke dmt that hasnt been all cleaned and recrystalized and stuff?
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#2 Posted : 8/25/2007 6:22:43 PM
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It is dangerous if by dirty you mean the solvents and such haven't been washed out or evaporated. If you mean that it is yellow and impure but the other added chemicals are gone, then you won't suffer too much.
 
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#3 Posted : 8/26/2007 2:05:15 AM
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yeh i meant just yellow base. i didnt know if i would have to recrystalize over and over or i could just smoke it after i evaporate the naptha.
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#4 Posted : 8/26/2007 7:52:29 AM
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I smoke it, dunno what kind of damage it may be causing, but I do not feel something unordinary going on. There shouldn't be anything besides alkaloids, essence oils, and some residual base in the extract. The hydroxide won't vaporize at temps used on DMT. So there really isn't anything to harm you. It does taste nastier than cleaner DMT though.
 
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#5 Posted : 8/28/2007 2:24:37 PM
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I was wondering this myself recently, as i'm usually too lazy to clean it thoroughly. I haven't noticed any ill effects, but just don't smoke solvent. Not only is it bad for you, but the whole bowl goes up in flames. You'll waste the spice, and might lose an eyebrow or two. I will say, the cleaner it is, the more pleasent it is to smoke though (both the smoothness, and the taste of the smoke).
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#6 Posted : 8/31/2007 9:54:10 AM
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a dark burgundy crystal clump mix from a half assed defat should be fine right ?
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#7 Posted : 8/31/2007 2:16:58 PM
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I wouldn't make a habit of it or anything, but i've smoked some pretty dark stuff and didn't notice any bad side effects. Though it's not really pleasant to smoke either. Just be sure it's completely dry (no naptha).
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#8 Posted : 8/31/2007 3:13:00 PM
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I'd clean it but I'm not all that lazy when it comes to things of this nature Wink it'll be worth your time and effort.
 
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#9 Posted : 9/1/2007 6:06:40 AM
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that was after quite a few ammonia washes, I guess it all just solidified.
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#10 Posted : 9/1/2007 6:36:44 AM
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also, Im taking it that ones lips arent supposed to go numb ? Wut?
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#11 Posted : 9/1/2007 8:55:00 AM

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but did it 'work' ..? Only numb lips..? I bet there's lye in that thar' spice ! Did you extract it by the lye-stew-method , or did you extract it right..?
 
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#12 Posted : 9/1/2007 9:05:27 AM
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the guy said he used quantum tantras and asked not to be beaten senselessly for doing so. however, from what he said, his third eye was squeegeed quite cleanly.
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#13 Posted : 9/1/2007 5:52:38 PM
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[quote:0515da7424="El Ka Bong"] I bet there's lye in that thar' spice ![/quote:0515da7424] Lye burn @ a [b:0515da7424]way[/b:0515da7424] higher temperature then DMT so it's not something to really worry about.I would just do a recrystallization.
 
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#14 Posted : 9/1/2007 6:42:35 PM
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[quoteVery happycf22b354d="psilocybin"][quoteVery happycf22b354d="El Ka Bong"] I bet there's lye in that thar' spice ![/quoteVery happycf22b354d] Lye burn @ a [bVery happycf22b354d]way[/bVery happycf22b354d] higher temperature then DMT so it's not something to really worry about.I would just do a recrystallization.[/quoteVery happycf22b354d] LYE Melting point. 318°C (591 K) Boiling point. 1390°C (1663 K) DMT...melting point is 49-50 degrees Celsius

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#15 Posted : 9/1/2007 6:56:46 PM
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^^indeed Wink
 
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#16 Posted : 9/1/2007 10:03:41 PM
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Lye or no lye, your lips will go numb from the spice.
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#17 Posted : 9/1/2007 10:33:14 PM
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[quote:73c4c3e403="DZ-015"]Lye or no lye, your lips will go numb from the spice.[/quote:73c4c3e403]yes, fresh freeze precip'd stuff, or spice that's been cleaned 3+ times still can tingle your tongue.

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#18 Posted : 9/2/2007 7:06:17 AM
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[quote:b374e9ef11="DZ-015"] Lye or no lye, your lips will go numb from the spice.[/quote:b374e9ef11] thanks! [quote:b374e9ef11="XENONSION"] LYE Melting point. 318°C (591 K) Boiling point. 1390°C (1663 K). DMT...melting point is 49-50 degrees Celsius[/quote:b374e9ef11] whats the average temperature of a lighter and/or a mini butane torch ?
To stb or not to stb, that is the extraction.
 
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#19 Posted : 9/2/2007 7:14:50 AM
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[quote:97eab1a59b="blue halo"][quote:97eab1a59b="DZ-015"] Lye or no lye, your lips will go numb from the spice.[/quote:97eab1a59b] thanks! [quote:97eab1a59b="XENONSION"] LYE Melting point. 318°C (591 K) Boiling point. 1390°C (1663 K). DMT...melting point is 49-50 degrees Celsius[/quote:97eab1a59b] whats the average temperature of a lighter and/or a mini butane torch ?[/quote:97eab1a59b] the maximum burning temperature of butane is 2,350 °C. when you freebase your material though...you will not get anywhere close to those numbers.

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