I can understand your confusion since this is still a thought process that has to find the right place to transform into a complete idea.

Here are some abstract thoughts:
1. The Enigmaticus will be a puzzle/game that is using trip reports as means of filling the void of hyperspace.
(Translates to: This will be a game where input of users will be used to make up the environment)

2. The game has a storyline that will expand itself by means of people playing the game. This will be done by giving players the ability to 'paint' the environment by trip reports and other input. (Expansion of idea 1.)

3. The Hyperspace lexicon is a separate project to collect words and phrases of hyperspace visits (trips/journeys). The Enigmaticus uses these words and phrases as keywords to submit experience reports.

4. This game will give people who never tried DMT the ability to experience a glimpse of DMT and hyperspace.

5. People with DMT experience might get a better understanding of the journeys other people take.


These are just a few ideas that popup in my mind.

‹Jorkest› yes ha...anyway it would be something like a programming puzzle on a website..you would create a sort of desktop with a place to input commands and whatnot

‹Jorkest› but you would leave clues and bits of information for the person to stumple across and get into the system to the core with some sort of strange underlying story

* opticuswrangler thinks we are doing that game with molecules as it is

‹Jorkest› yea yea...but it would be a good way to 'teach' how to do that with reality itself

‹Jorkest› and it would be interesting if a group of us worked on it...you could use pieces of art as clues..and riddles and poems hidden throughout..make it really beautiful and tripped out

‹Jorkest› and then have somebody that can program it...

‹The Traveler› I can program it i think but we have to workout that idea a bit more.

‹The Traveler› Then I can make an online puzzle that you have to "hack".

‹The Traveler› Via hidden clues and such.

‹Jorkest› exactly!!!!! you read my mind

‹Jorkest› i was also thinking if we got really into it..we could use the hyperspace lexicon as a model...or the puzzle could be a higher dimensional part of the lexicon

‹Jorkest› another way of mapping hyperspace

‹The Traveler› MAybe the wiki can even be a hidden part of it!

‹Jorkest› indeed!!

‹The Traveler› And in time the ppuzzle can grow.

‹The Traveler› NEw section to research and new gems to find.

‹The Traveler› Like a search for truth and reality.

‹The Traveler› I like the idea. Andd have compartments that can be opened one by one.

‹The Traveler› Hehe, I think I got a short storyline ready.

‹The Traveler› First you just have contact with the iinterface.
05/07/2009 17:55:03 ‹The Traveler› You find out there is more.
05/07/2009 17:55:13 ‹The Traveler› And can hack more and more systtems.
05/07/2009 17:55:21 ‹The Traveler› Until you find out you are on a spaceship.
05/07/2009 17:55:32 ‹The Traveler› Only thing is, this spaceship is selfmorphing.
05/07/2009 17:55:37 ‹The Traveler› As is the reality it is in.
05/07/2009 17:56:10 ‹Jorkest› haha you are crazy! its perfect...awesome
05/07/2009 17:56:17 ‹The Traveler› It's revealing more and more about hyperspace.
05/07/2009 17:56:39 ‹The Traveler› We can use themes people bring up from experiences.
05/07/2009 17:56:40 ‹Jorkest› that sounds absolutely fabulous
05/07/2009 17:56:49 ‹The Traveler› And those experiences will be clues to people.
05/07/2009 17:57:03 ‹The Traveler› We have to pick out the best experiene reports for this.
05/07/2009 17:57:23 ‹Jorkest› yes dude...this is amazing
17:57:43 ‹The Traveler› But working all together I think this will work out.
05/07/2009 17:57:53 ‹The Traveler› First you only have a commandline interface.
05/07/2009 17:58:04 ‹Aegle› Very cool indeed

‹The Traveler› LAger on when more is programmed this could be flash or silverlight parts.
05/07/2009 17:58:10 ‹Jorkest› this is awesome
05/07/2009 17:58:40 ‹The Traveler› Another grat idea: Let people leave messges over the place. Or even DMT epxerience reports if they like!
05/07/2009 17:59:07 ‹The Traveler› This way the selfmorphing nature of the spaceship will be done by the people whpo visit it.
05/07/2009 17:59:11 ‹Jorkest› ah ha! like leave notes in the game
05/07/2009 17:59:17 ‹Jorkest› oh my god yes

22:47:20 ‹Jorkest› i figured...the enigmaticus page is up
05/07/2009 22:47:42 ‹The Traveler› Ah, good. Just the first page but that means it's online and we have a go.
05/07/2009 22:48:10 ‹The Traveler› Our nice alien lifeform on earth.
05/07/2009 22:48:37 ‹The Traveler› I like the idea of the auto generating spaces based on keywods.
05/07/2009 22:48:46 * bla joins Hyperspace Chat
05/07/2009 22:48:51 ‹test2› Hello bla
05/07/2009 22:49:00 ‹Jorkest› cool
05/07/2009 22:49:29 ‹The Traveler› I think we have to contemplate those keywords into a visualization of some sort.
05/07/2009 22:49:42 ‹The Traveler› And we have to identify al keywords.
05/07/2009 22:49:58 ‹The Traveler› Might be worth reading loads of experience reports.
05/07/2009 22:50:10 ‹Jorkest› yeah i was thinking it would just be like a form that somebody could upload pictures and text..and possibly sound and organize it..
05/07/2009 22:50:13 ‹The Traveler› or......Have the computer just count all the words and how many times they appear.
05/07/2009 22:50:24 ‹The Traveler› I think WOW! and SHIT! are quite common.
05/07/2009 22:51:09 ‹Jorkest› haha maybe their could be images associated with those that would pop up for like .5 seconds and then continue on with deeper images of what the experience was like
05/07/2009 22:51:10 * bla quit (timeout)
05/07/2009 22:51:24 ‹The Traveler› Ah, having the experience submitter enter the keywords and even some media with that.
05/07/2009 22:51:45 ‹Jorkest› yeah it would be like a new form of experience reports
05/07/2009 22:52:12 ‹The Traveler› I think I can create that with Silverlight.
05/07/2009 22:52:37 ‹The Traveler› It does mean people have to download a plugin.
05/07/2009 22:52:40 ‹Jorkest› i dont think it would be too hard to program..it would almost be like a powerpoint presentation
05/07/2009 22:52:52 ‹The Traveler› Silverlight is like flash but easier and better to program for ne.
05/07/2009 22:53:06 ‹The Traveler› Indeed, like a presentation but then better.
05/07/2009 22:53:09 ‹Jorkest› well..i dont think people would have too much of a problem with that
05/07/2009 22:53:14 ‹Jorkest› yea way better
05/07/2009 22:53:21 ‹The Traveler› And VERY easy for people to submit asn experience to.
05/07/2009 22:53:37 ‹The Traveler› I think that will be one end of the whole enigmaticus.
05/07/2009 22:53:57 ‹The Traveler› I think it would evven be very cool that it can show thing based on just a textfile.
05/07/2009 22:54:07 ‹Jorkest› yeah..because they could use the lexicon as like a dictionary of sorts
05/07/2009 22:54:08 ‹The Traveler› I think I'll work on that first.
05/07/2009 22:54:10 ‹Jorkest› yea i like that idea
05/07/2009 22:54:36 ‹Jorkest› ohhh
05/07/2009 22:54:41 ‹The Traveler› And after entering the textfile the experiencee can then add customization.
05/07/2009 22:55:09 ‹Jorkest› another interesting idea
05/07/2009 22:56:18 ‹Jorkest› they could also input the extraction tek and this could be another way of organizing experience reports based on how it was extracted..and also create a way to search through experiences based on certain data types
05/07/2009 22:56:40 ‹The Traveler› Ah, great idea!
05/07/2009 22:57:22 ‹Jorkest› this was we can start to see differences in the dmt experience based on all the chemicals used and any other data inputs we think of
05/07/2009 22:57:31 ‹The Traveler› That will also create another dimension.
05/07/2009 22:57:43 ‹Jorkest› indeed
05/07/2009 22:58:20 ‹The Traveler› So the input would be: experience report text, keywords, extraction tek used, chemicals used, substance used.
05/07/2009 22:58:40 ‹The Traveler› That way it will ccreate a vvery personal experience itself.
05/07/2009 22:59:00 ‹Jorkest› also music or sound listened to..or time of day ...and maybe the surroundings they are in
05/07/2009 22:59:03 ‹The Traveler› Green teks would be lighter by default then brute chemical teks.
05/07/2009 22:59:13 ‹Jorkest› yup
05/07/2009 22:59:19 ‹The Traveler› Ah yes. That would play a part in it too.
05/07/2009 22:59:41 ‹The Traveler› It's like a recreator of experience that someone can related to.
05/07/2009 23:00:02 ‹Jorkest› yes!
05/07/2009 23:00:35 ‹Jorkest› and possibly based on the keywords people use..it will open new spaces for them
05/07/2009 23:00:41 ‹The Traveler› I once made a game (where the music you listened before was made for) where there was a self expanding space based on exploration. The first peson to explore apart of space created in fact that space.
05/07/2009 23:00:55 ‹Jorkest› nice dude
05/07/2009 23:01:04 ‹Jorkest› that sounds awfully similar!
05/07/2009 23:01:10 ‹The Traveler› This would be the same priciple.
05/07/2009 23:01:17 ‹The Traveler› yes it does.
05/07/2009 23:02:06 ‹The Traveler› I'll create this input first.
05/07/2009 23:02:18 ‹Jorkest› so a way that people will advance through it is by having experiences that they log..and when they come upon certain themes in the dmt space...and enter them into the experience recorder..it will unlock the next space
05/07/2009 23:03:21 ‹The Traveler› Yes. That is the glue between all ideas!
05/07/2009 23:03:57 ‹The Traveler› Entering experiences will drive them into a direction.
05/07/2009 23:04:14 ‹Jorkest› and as they progress they will have access to more advanced keywords or commands...
05/07/2009 23:04:14 ‹The Traveler› Or even a whole new part of hyperspace.
05/07/2009 23:04:15 ‹Jorkest› yes!!!
05/07/2009 23:04:47 ‹The Traveler› Exiting ideas pop up here.
05/07/2009 23:04:50 ‹Jorkest› this could be the greatest thing ever
05/07/2009 23:05:02 ‹Jorkest› indeed they do
05/07/2009 23:05:02 ‹The Traveler› It will be for the nexus for sure.
05/07/2009 23:05:21 ‹The Traveler› It's a great way to share experiences, both ways.
05/07/2009 23:05:35 ‹Jorkest› and all dmt research in the future...an understandable construct for understanding the different aspects of hyperspace
05/07/2009 23:05:44 ‹The Traveler› Ok, first work: Input forms for experience reports.
05/07/2009 23:05:48 ‹Jorkest› haha too much understanding
05/07/2009 23:05:54 ‹The Traveler› Second, create something out of the input.
05/07/2009 23:05:55 ‹Jorkest› sweet
05/07/2009 23:06:02 ‹The Traveler› Third, math experience input.
05/07/2009 23:06:28 ‹The Traveler› Fourth, explore other experiences.
05/07/2009 23:07:38 ‹The Traveler› We have to put this on the forum I'l do the part of the steps and input needed. You post the rest?

I'm more of a classical artist, pens, pencils and brushes, but I could scan them or make drafts for 3d artists to continue on if you want.

Great idea! I'm really excited to see what comes out of this!

One way to incorporate the lexicon like some of you were talking about would be to create art, computer models, or whatever of the different aspects of hyperspace we define and then incorporate that into this project. The visual representations that are made about specific aspects of hyperspace could be linked to the lexicon Wiki page too.

I hope that makes sense. I'm high and it's early here...

I think that would be a great idea! You're welcome to join in, can I put your name as 'Artist' on the Wiki page?