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Impossibly high yield from first pull - 10.5g from 500g ACRB Options
 
TheHornedOne
#1 Posted : 1/27/2014 9:34:29 PM

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SWIM would post this in the relevant thread, but does not have privileges yet.

SWIM followed thick-light's tek exactly as posted here:
https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=39030

with a couple exceptions:

500ml naptha used for pull.
evap process is described below. initial evap wasn't working, so a freeze evap, then re-x, using evap precip was performed.

SWIM used 500g Hawaiian ACRB Removed
As of yet has only done ONE PULL.
This pull was re-x'd.
After re-x, weight of spice is over 10.5g!! That's 2%+ yield, from one pull.
Fluffy white crystals formed atop a more yellowish plaque, probably containing plant oils, NMT, etc. Second evap came out more yellow than first freeze evap. After initial extraction, nothing fell out of solution for 4+ hours of room temp evap precip, so SWIM placed vessel covered in freezer. A 1/4 inch wall immediately crystallized. After 24 hours, this vessel was drained and dried. Crystals remained soggy with solution, so a re-x was performed without any added naptha. Vessel was lightly heated in hot water bath to re-liquify. This was room temp evapped for a couple days, resulting in the 10.5g.

Freeze evap results:


liquify in heat bath, then evap precip results:








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#2 Posted : 1/27/2014 9:50:17 PM

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Nice results. Chances are the light-yellow material is mostly NMT. I have separated the DMT/NMT, and I can confirm that freebase NMT is a yellowish off-white color (but not as yellow as DMT N-oxide). You probably pulled so much on the first pull because of the large volume of solvent you used.
 
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#3 Posted : 1/27/2014 10:08:24 PM

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Yes. 10g is still a lot from 500g root bark. Will see how much is yielded from remaining pulls. Must have attained rather high quality bark. SWIM thought he must have really messed up based on the volume of this yield, but he just blasted off harder than he ever has on 27mg. Trip lasted for 10 solid minutes where it usually only lasts about 5. NMT or not, SWIM will live with these crystals as they are.
 
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#4 Posted : 1/27/2014 10:09:08 PM

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arcologist wrote:
Nice results. Chances are the light-yellow material is mostly NMT. I have separated the DMT/NMT, and I can confirm that freebase NMT is a yellowish off-white color (but not as yellow as DMT N-oxide). You probably pulled so much on the first pull because of the large volume of solvent you used.


arcologist...
How did you seperate nmt from dmt ?
Was it the dry ice method i read about recently?
Does this mean you can isolate NN DMT from NMT DMT..the stuff in acacia confusa bark?
If so.. i want to learn this process!
 
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#5 Posted : 1/27/2014 10:10:15 PM

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starway6 wrote:
arcologist wrote:
Nice results. Chances are the light-yellow material is mostly NMT. I have separated the DMT/NMT, and I can confirm that freebase NMT is a yellowish off-white color (but not as yellow as DMT N-oxide). You probably pulled so much on the first pull because of the large volume of solvent you used.


arcologist...
How did you seperate nmt from dmt ?
Was it the dry ice method i read about recently?
Does this mean you can isolate NN DMT from NMT DMT..the stuff in acacia confusa bark?
If so.. i want to learn this process!


seconded.
 
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#6 Posted : 1/27/2014 10:20:05 PM

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It is very hard to tell what is NMT and what is DMT when you have crystals like that.
Only a TLC test could confirm it.

You have some great crystals there...Don't mess about with them anymore.
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#7 Posted : 1/27/2014 10:46:38 PM

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man i was told by so many people that you cannot do one large pull.. and yet... it clearly works. Rolling eyes
 
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#8 Posted : 1/27/2014 10:54:59 PM

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getting a little lazy i decieded to just evaporate my acrb goo because i think its the same material as pretty crystals..
In my photos below i just dumped two acrb napatha pulls in this pyrex dish and evaporated it..
In photos below .. [red plastic tray below the dish] you can see the waxy extract and some yellowing...
Does the yellowing look like tannans ?..
Much of the drying extract is a hazy clear looking stuff with crystals slowly trying to develope..
Notice upper left corner of dish the paterns look diferent..are those crystals trying to develope?

HOW many days..or weeks...does it take this acrb goo to fully dry so it can be scraped up and weighed ..
what is the yellow stuff?
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Beautiful results.
 
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#10 Posted : 1/27/2014 11:42:44 PM

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starway6 wrote:

arcologist...
How did you seperate nmt from dmt ?
Was it the dry ice method i read about recently?
Does this mean you can isolate NN DMT from NMT DMT..the stuff in acacia confusa bark?
If so.. i want to learn this process!


Yes, that's what I used, and it does indeed work. Read more here. NMT can be a pain to work with though because it is not very soluble in naphtha, necessitating using xylene if you want to get it all.
 
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#11 Posted : 1/28/2014 12:17:49 AM

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starway6 wrote:
getting a little lazy i decieded to just evaporate my acrb goo because i think its the same material as pretty crystals..
In my photos below i just dumped two acrb napatha pulls in this pyrex dish and evaporated it..
In photos below .. [red plastic tray below the dish] you can see the waxy extract and some yellowing...
Does the yellowing look like tannans ?..
Much of the drying extract is a hazy clear looking stuff with crystals slowly trying to develope..
Notice upper left corner of dish the paterns look diferent..are those crystals trying to develope?

HOW many days..or weeks...does it take this acrb goo to fully dry so it can be scraped up and weighed ..
what is the yellow stuff?


just scrape it up now. then spread it back out and let it sit for 20 mins. do this a few times over an hour. It hardens up for me when ever i do this.
 
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#12 Posted : 1/28/2014 12:53:43 AM

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If you notice the waves in evaporation dish it was because i used a high speep computer fan just two inches above the napatha ..causing the napatha to dry ..[very fast].. leaving the wavy marks as it dryed..

Just wanted to get the napatha dryed fast..[dont like the smell]...

Is the yellow color ok..????

i was very carefull to alow compleate seperation of napatha from base..

Thanks for response...!
 
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#13 Posted : 1/28/2014 2:05:23 AM

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Those are some great looking crystals OP.
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starway6 wrote:
If you notice the waves in evaporation dish it was because i used a high speep computer fan just two inches above the napatha ..causing the napatha to dry ..[very fast].. leaving the wavy marks as it dryed..

Just wanted to get the napatha dryed fast..[dont like the smell]...

Is the yellow color ok..????

i was very carefull to alow compleate seperation of napatha from base..

Thanks for response...!

Many people end up with a yellow color to their DMT/NMT mixture. It should be fine, but a re-x wouldn't hurt if you're really worried about it.

I would really recommend evaporating your naphtha pulls in a space that has adequate ventilation. If you can smell the naphtha, then you are most likely inhaling naphtha vapors which can be harmful.
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#15 Posted : 1/28/2014 4:04:28 AM

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Thats incredibleeeee. Smoalk all of the xtals. The first picture of the bowl I would have fallen over if I opened my freezer and saw that.


As for the goo, how long it takes to harden depends greatly on humidity of the environment. Cooler temps help too.
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Wowzers! nice work
 
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Many people end up with a yellow color to their DMT/NMT mixture. It should be fine, but a re-x wouldn't hurt if you're really worried about it.

I would really recommend evaporating your naphtha pulls in a space that has adequate ventilation. If you can smell the naphtha, then you are most likely inhaling naphtha vapors which can be harmful.[/quote]

Yes..I had plenty of ventilation when evaporating...
I couldent beleive that this stuff in photos above would dry.. but i followed advice to swab up the stuff and spred it back on glass dish and it seems to be drying quite well although still a little oily..
It seems to take on a light orange or light yellow color and right now feels like half dryed wood putty..
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starway6 wrote:
Many people end up with a yellow color to their DMT/NMT mixture. It should be fine, but a re-x wouldn't hurt if you're really worried about it.

I would really recommend evaporating your naphtha pulls in a space that has adequate ventilation. If you can smell the naphtha, then you are most likely inhaling naphtha vapors which can be harmful.


Yes..I had plenty of ventilation when evaporating...
I couldent beleive that this stuff in photos above would dry.. but i followed advice to swab up the stuff and spred it back on glass dish and it seems to be drying quite well although still a little oily..
It seems to take on a light orange or light yellow color and right now feels like half dryed wood putty..
photos below.. [/quote]


I was told by an experienced nexus member that the yellow will often happen when you let it sit too long. it begins pulling out plant oils. sorry if someone already mentioned that and i missed it. Much love Drool
 
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Will you post your second pull Smile
 
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Will you post your second pull Smile


This is my second pull from 200grms acrb i expect more to come..
 
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