OK, so obviously Art has had his buttons pushed a bit by this thread, quiet a bit of anger there I don't think was warranted, along with a whole bunch of accusations on my intentions and actions that are not at all true. Basically, what it comes down to is that antrocles bought some of my Spagyrics, for the wrong reasons it seems, however those reasons came about. He was upset & complained about it, I gave him all his money back (for the record, I DID agree to the refund he asked for BEFORE any of his complaints here), and I'm still the bad guy here. Whatever.

I was posting on here proactively trying to make sure that no one else has the same disappointment in our products, and that anyone in the future reading this thread understand what they do & don't offer. Folks here use DMT, it is quite dramatic in its effects, and I wanted to be sure that people realized that my Spagyrics would NOT be so dramatic in effect. I think that may actually be the opposite of "shilling", considering that the net message is "if you like what you've worked with so far as discussed on this forum, then you might not like what I offer". I NEVER ONCE said that anyone here was inferior, or that I have contempt for the practice, or any of the statements claimed as mine by Art. I have explained and explained this in what I thought became an interesting and civilised dialogue with the member endlessness, which I enjoyed because it allowed me to see a different perspective and explain mine, learning some and refining my thoughts about the whole situation along the way.

Now that Art has taken this thread in a truly venomous and mean-spirited direction, I think it's clear that the civilised discussion is over. If you relate to my perspective and thoughts, great. If not, nothing more I can say will change that, and I'm actually pretty busy this week filling orders from long-term, loyal customers who I appreciate, respect, and enjoy my relationship with. So, I think that's really all the energy I have for this.

Strength & Wisdom,
Micah
www.al-kemi.com

Actually, the timeline, as it's presented in this thread by both sides, seems to go something like this:

1) He ordered your product. He didn't care for it. In point of fact, he got no effects whatsoever - and from four different samples.

2) He called and asked to return the fifth (which was still unopened), and you (either politely or impolitely, depending on who you believe) refused.

3) He exercised his rights as a consumer, and (very tactfully and respectfully, in my opinion) posted his dissatisfaction on this thread.

4) You appeared and personally attacked the guy, publicly questioning both his intelligence and integrity.

5) You then proceeded to open your big fat plant-chomping yap in a long-winded tirade about the soul sickness of DMT users in general.

6) After enough potentially bad press amongst your demographic, you reversed your position, refunded his money and continued to flap your gums.

Items' 4 & 5 are what inspired my post, if you're really still unclear. You see, spagyric woman, you just can't really have it both ways. If those who extract organic DMT from a biological source (a chemical which is endogenous to the human body, by the way, not just existent in your beloved plant kingdom) are thickheaded drug seekers, then you, sister, are a drug dealer. Just because you dress in hemp and smell of patchouli doesn't make you less of one, nor do the legally necessary disclaimers on your website. Why maintain a membership here, if not to prey on the thickheaded drug seekers you describe? Of course, your response is that you are here merely to dissaude those from purchasing who would otherwise expect a drug-like experience or mis-use your spiritualized essences. I say give me a fucking break; You are here to turn a buck.

Not saying you're Pablo Escobar or anything, but do a little more trolling and a little less shilling, and you'll find a common thread on this site - DMT users don't sell their wares. So who's really got the upperhand, morally speaking...?

Peace, love and chicken grease


Mr. Moonbeam

Since all sides had a change to tell their side of the story I'm locking this thread.