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#1 Posted : 10/5/2012 4:07:13 PM

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I found this today and wanted to share it with all of you lovely people.

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http://ayahuascasafety.org/?page_id=13

And the article -

Meds to avoid with Ayahuasca
Is it really dangerous to combine some pharmaceutical drugs with Ayahuasca?

YES. Unlike food interactions, whose consequences are usually unlikely to be serious, interaction with pharmaceutical drugs and meds (including some over-the-counter drugs and certain herbs) can be potentially life-threatening.. The combination of MAOIs and other serotonin agonists or precursors poses a particularly severe risk of a life-threatening serotonin syndrome episode.

These drugs and meds can be dangerous with Ayahuasca:

other MAOIs
SSRI’s (any selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor)
antihypertensives (high blood pressure medicine)
appetite suppressants (diet pills)
medicine for asthma, bronchitis, or other breathing problems; antihistamines, medicines for colds, sinus problems, hay fever, or allergies (Actifed DM, Benadryl, Benylin, Chlor-Trimeton, Compoz, Bromarest-DM or -DX, Dimetane-DX cough syrup, Dristan Cold & Flu, Phenergan with Dextromethorphan, Robitussin-DM, Vicks Formula 44-D, several Tylenol cold, cough, and flu preparations, and many others — any drug containing dextromethorphan/ DXM or with DM, DX or Tuss in its name.)
CNS (central nervous system) depressants (xanax, ativan, etc)
vasodilators
antipsychotics
barbiturates
alcohol
Illegal or recreational drugs that are VERY dangerous to combine with MAOIs:

- cocaine
- amphetamines (meth-, dex-, amphetamine), ephedrine, MDMA (Ecstasy), MDA, MDEA, PMA
- opiates (heroin, morphine, codeine, and especially opium)
- dextromethorphan (DXM)
- nutmeg

Illegal or recreational drugs that can be dangerous to combine with MAOIs:

- mescaline (any phenethylamine)
- barbiturates
- alcohol
- kratom
- kava
- 5-MEO-DMT

Some specific pharmaceutical drugs that should not be combined with MAOIs (some are mild risks, others serious):

- Actifed
- Adderall
- Alaproclate
- Albuterol (Proventil, Ventolin)
- Amantadine hydrochloride (Symmetrel)
- Amiflamine
- Amineptine
- Amitriptaline
- Amoxapine (Asendin)
- Atomoxedine
- Bazinaprine
- Befloxetone’
- Befol
- Benadryl
- Benmoxinb (Nerusil, Neuralex)
- Benylin
- Benzedrine
- Benzphetamine (Didrex)
- Bicifadine
- Brasofensine
- Brofaromine (Consonar)
- Buprenorphine
- Bupropion (Wellbutrin)
- Buspirone (BuSpar)
- Butriptyline
- Carbamazepine (Tegretol, Epitol)
- Chlorpheniramine
- Chlor-Trimeton
- Cimoxetone
- Citalopram (Celexa)
- Clomipramine (Anafranil)
- Clorgyline
- Codeine
- Cyclobenzaprine (Flexeril)
- Cyclizine (Marezine)
- D-deprenyl
- Dapoxotine
- Desipramine (Pertofrane, Norpramin)
- Desvenlafaxine
- Dextroamphetamine (Dexedrine)
- Dextromethorphan (DXM)
- Dibenzepin
- Dienolide kavapyrone desmethoxyyangonin
- Diethylpropion
- Disopyramide (Norpace)
- Disulfiram (Antabuse)
- Dobutamine
- Dopamine (Intropin)
- Dosulepin
- Doxepin (Sinequan)
- Duloxetine (Cymbalta)
- Emsam
- Entacapone
- Ephedrine
- Epinephrine (Adrenalin)
- Escitalopram (Lexapro)
- Esuprone
- Etorphine
- Femoxitine
- Fenfluramine (Pondimin)
- Flavoxate Hydrochloride (Urispas)
- Fluoxetine (Prozac)
- Fluvoxamine
- Furazolidone (Furoxone)
- Guanethedine
- Guanadrel (Hylorel)
- Guanethidine (Ismelin)
- Hydralazine (Apresoline)
- Hydrazine
- 5-Hydroxytryptophan
- Imipramine (Tofranil)
- Iprindole
- Iproniazid (Marsilid, Iprozid, Ipronid, Rivivol, Propilniazida)
- Iproclozide (Sursum)
- Isocarboxazid (Marplan)
- Isoniazid (Laniazid, Nydrazid)
- Isoniazid rifampin (Rifamate, Rimactane)
- Isoproterenol (Isuprel)
- L-dopa (Sinemet)
- Ladostigil
- Lazabemide (Pakio, Tempium)
- Levodopa (Dopar, Larodopa)
- Linezolid (Zyvox, Zyvoxid)
- Lithium (Eskalith)
- Lofepramine
- Loratadine (Claritin)
- Maprotiline (Ludiomil)
- Mebanazine (Actomol)
- Medifoxamine
- Melitracen
- Meperidine (Demerol)
- Metaproterenol (Alupent, Metaprel)
- Metaraminol (Aramine)
- Metfendrazine (Inkazan)
- Methamphetamine (Desoxyn)
- Methyldopa (Aidomet)
- Methylphenidate (Ritalin)
- Metralindole
- Mianserin
- Milacimide
- Milnacipran
- Minaprine (Cantor)
- Mirtazapine (Remeron)
- Mofegeline
- Moclobemide (Aurorix, Manerix)
- Monomethylhydrazine
- Montelukast (Singulair)
- Nalbufrine
- Naloxone
- Naltrexone
- Nefazodone
- Nialamide (Niamid)
- Nisoxetine
- Nomifensine
- Norepinephrine (Levophed)
- Nortriptyline (Aventyl)
- Octamoxin (Ximaol, Nimaol)
- Oxybutynin chloride (Ditropan)
- Oxycodone
- Oxymetazoline (Afrin)
- Oxymorphone
- Orphenadrine (Norflex)
- Pargyline (Eutonyl)
- Parnate
- Paroxetine (Paxil)
- Pemoline (Cylert)
- Percocet
- Pethedine (Demerol)
- Phendimetrazine (Plegiline)
- Phenelzine (Nardil)
- Phenergen
- Phenelzine (Nardil, Nardelzine)
- Pheniprazine (Catron)
- Phenmetrazine
- Phenoxypropazine (Drazine)
- Phentermine
- Phenylephrine (Dimetane, Dristan decongestant, Neo-Synephrine)
- Phenylhydrazine
- Phenylpropanolamine (found in many cold medicines)
- Phenelzine (Nardil)
- Pirlindole (Pirazidol)
- Procarbazine (Matulane)
- Procainamide (Pronestyl)
- Protriptyline (Vivactil)
- Pseudoephedrine
- Oxymetazoline (Afrin)
- Quinidine (Quinidex)
- Rasagiline (Azilect)
- Reboxetine
- Reserpine (Serpasil)
- Risperidone
- Salbutemol
- Salmeterol
- Selegiline (Eldepryl, Emsam, Zelapar)
- Sercloramine
- Sertraline (Zoloft)
- Sibutramine
- Sumatriptan (Imitrex)
- Terfenadine (Seldane-D)
- Tegretol
- Temaril
- Tesofensine
- Tetrindole
- Theophylline (Theo-Dur)
- Thesbutiaint
- Thioridazine (Mellaril)
- Tianeptine
- Tolcapone
- Toloxatone (Humoryl)
- Tramidol
- Tranylcypromine (Parnate)
- Trazodone
- Tricyclic antidepressants (Amitriptyline, Elavil)
- Trimipramine (Surmontil)
- Triptans
- Tyrima
- Vanoxerine
- Venlafaxine (Effexor)
- Viloxezine
- Yohimbine
- Zimelidine
- Ziprasidone (Geodon)

Also avoid the following herbs for at least 48 hours before and after:

St. Johns Wort (should be avoided for at least two weeks)
Betel
Boswellia
Carrot seed
Chamomile
Curcumin
Dill seed
Ephedra
Fennel seed
Fo-Ti
Ginseng
Horny Goat Weed
Kanna
Kava
Kratom
Licorice Root
Nutmeg
Parsley seed
Rhodiola Rosea
Scotch Broom
Siberian Ginseng
Sinicuichi
Tumeric
Yerba Mate
Yohimbe

Using stimulants with MAOIs is particularly dangerous and can be potentially fatal. Using cocaine, amphetamines or MDMA (Ecstasy) with MAOIs may cause a severe increase in blood pressure, increasing the chances for stroke and cerebral hemorrhage. MAOIs may make it possible to overdose on a relatively small amount of cocaine. (A fatality has been recorded involving combination of Peganum harmala and cocaine. Fatalities resulting from combining amphetamines with pharmaceutical MAOIs are recorded in the medical literature.)

Using other serotonin agonists (SSRIs) or precursors with an MAOI can lead to serotonin syndrome. Serotinin syndrome is rare, but can be fatal. The main symptom of serotonin syndrome may be a severe and long-lasting headache (the same symptom as MAOI tyramine interaction) and/or fever (as high as 40 °C / 104 °F or more) Other symptoms of serotonin syndrome may include rapid heartbeat, shivering, sweating, dilated pupils, intermittent tremor or twitching, overactive or overresponsive reflexes, hyperactive bowel sounds, high blood pressure. Severe serotonin syndrome may lead to shock, agitated delirium, muscular rigidity and high muscular tension, abnormal blood clotting and bleeding, respiratory failure, renal failure, and seizures, and can be life-threatening. This interaction can happen even if weeks have passed between stopping the SSRI and taking the MAOI. For further information on serotonin syndrome see this web page: http://www.psychotropical.com/

Using other MAOIs with Ayahuasca may result in hypertensive crisis, convulsive seizures, fever, marked sweating, excitation, delirium, tremor, coma and circulatory collapse.

Using 5-MEO-DMT with Ayahuasca or Ayahuasca analogs can be fatal. There is a documented case of fatality combining 5-MEO-DMT with an Ayahuasca analog.

Using opiates (opium, heroin, morphine, codeine) or barbiturates with MAOIs can increase the sedative effect and result in respiratory depression. Using MAOIs with heroin or morphine can theoretically push a normal dose to the overdose threshold. Opium (whether smoked or drunk as tea) is especially dangerous to combine with MAOIs, because it contains not only morphine and codeine, but another active alkaloid called thebaine, which can cause convulsions when combined with MAOIs, and which is also a stimulant (see above paragraph on stimulants). Painkillers synthesized from thebaine (buprenorphine, etorphine, oxycodone, oxymorphone, nalbuphine, naloxone, naltrexone) should also be regarded as highly dangerous to combine with MAOIs.

Using alcohol with MAOIs may cause side effects like angina (chest pain) or headaches. The headache may mask or be mistaken for hypertensive crisis caused by MAOI interaction. MAOIs can also increase the sedative effect of alcohol.

Using diuretics with MAOIs may cause a greater drop in blood pressure than normal and increase in MAOI blood levels.

Using anesthetics with MAOIs may potentiate or increase the anesthetic effect.

Using sleeping pills or tranquilizers (major or minor) with MAOIs may increase the sedative effect.

Using nutmeg (at psychoactive levels) with MAOIs can cause hypotensive crisis (extremely low blood pressure), rapid heartbeat, unconsciousness and potentially death.

Using vasodilators with Ayahuasca may cause fainting (which carries the slight risk of choking on vomit) and increases the chances of having an experience in which one believes one is dying. Using vasodilators immediately after an Ayahuasca session also carries the risk of fainting or passing out.

Using Tricyclic antidepressants within two weeks of taking MAOIs may cause serious side effects including sudden fever, extremely high blood pressure, convulsions, and death.

Using Fluoxetine (Prozac) within five weeks of taking MAOIs may cause high fever, rigidity, high blood pressure, mental changes, confusion and hypomania.

Using Amitryptamine or Amoxipine with MAOIs may cause hyperpyretic crises, disseminated intravascular coagulation, convulsions, and death.

Using Benzedrine, Benzphetamine, Desipramine, Desoxyn, Dexedrine, Dopamine, Ephedrine (contained in Marax, Quadrinal, and other asthma drugs), Epinephrine, Guanadrel, Guanethidine, Hydralazine, Isoproterenol, L-dopa, Metaraminol, Methyldopa, Mirtazamine, Norepinephrine Oxymetazoline, Phendimetrazine, Phentermine, Phenylephrine, Phenylpropanolamine, Pseudoephedrine, Ritalin, or Venlafaxine with MAOIs may cause a hypertensive crisis (severe spike in blood pressure) which can lead to brain hemorrhage or stroke.

Using Adderall with MAOIs can result in high body temperature (hyperpyrexic crisis), severe increase in blood pressure (hypertensive crisis), seizures, and coma. (see paragraph above on stimulants)

Using Bupropion (Wellbutrin) within two weeks of taking MAOIs may cause serious side effects such as seizures.

Using Buspirone (Buspar) with MAOIs may cause high blood pressure and increased sedative effects.

Using Carbamazepine (Tegretol) with MAOIs may result in fever (hyperpyrexic crisis) and may cause seizures, or increase seizures in epileptics.

Using Citalopram with MAOIs may result in severe and sometimes fatal reactions involving elevations in blood pressure, hyperthermia, rigidity, and autonomic instability. This drug should be ceased a minimum of two weeks before taking Ayahuasca.

Using Clomipramine with MAOIs may cause high fever (hyperpyrexic crisis), seizures, disseminated intravascular coagulation, and death.

Using CNS depressants with MAOIs may increase the depressant effects.

Using Desipramine (Norpramin, Pertofrane) with MAOIs may result in hypertensive crisis, hyperpyretic crises, disseminated intravascular coagulation, convulsions, and death.

Using Dextromethorphan (DXM) at psychoactive levels with MAOIs may cause serotonin syndrome, extremely high blood pressure (hypertensive crisis), high body temperature (hyperpyrexic crisis), episodes of psychosis, and in high doses can potentially be fatal.

Using Dobutamine with MAOIs may precipitate severe hypertensive reaction.

Using Doxepin with MAOIs may cause hyperpyretic crises, disseminated intravascular coagulation, convulsions, and death.

Using Entacapone with MAOIs can stop the catalyst enzyme catechol-O-methyltransferase (COMT) from metabolizing levodopa to 3-O-methyldopa in the periphery, and in the brain.

Using Fenfluramine with MAOIs may result in fever (hyperpyrexic crisis).

Using Fluoxedine or Fluvaoxamine with MAOIs may result in severe and sometimes fatal reactions involving elevations in blood pressure, hyperthermia, rigidity, and autonomic instability. This drug should be ceased a minimum of two weeks before taking Ayahuasca.

Using Horny Goat Weed with MAOIs may result in hypotensive crisis (severe blood pressure drop).

Using Imipramine with MAOIs may cause hyperpyretic crises, disseminated intravascular coagulation, convulsions, and death.

Using Isoproterenol with MAOIs may precipitate severe hypertensive crisis.

Using Kava with MAOIs may result in hypotensive crisis (severe blood pressure drop).

Using Levodopa with MAOIs can stop the catalyst enzyme catechol-O-methyltransferase (COMT) from metabolizing levodopa to 3-O-methyldopa in the periphery, and in the brain.

Using Linezolid with MAOIs can cause serotonin syndrome.

Using Lithium with MAOIs may cause fever (hyperpyrexic crisis) and serotonin syndrome (see serotonin syndrome above).

Using Meperidine (Demerol) with pharmaceutical MAOIs has resulted in deaths from a single dose. Immediate onset of sweating, rigidity and hypertension can occur.

Using Metaproterenol or other beta-adrenergic bronchodilators with MAOIs may cause blood pressure elevation and rapid heartbeat.

Using Mirtazapine (Remeron) with MAOIs may result in hypertensive crisis.

Using Nefazodone (Serzone) may result in high fever (hyperpyrexic crisis).

Using Paroxitine (Paxil) with MAOIs may result in severe and sometimes fatal reactions involving elevations in blood pressure, hyperthermia, rigidity, and autonomic instability. This drug should be ceased a minimum of two weeks before taking Ayahuasca.

Using Sertraline with MAOIs may result in severe and sometimes fatal reactions involving elevations in blood pressure, hyperthermia, rigidity, and autonomic instability. This drug should be ceased a minimum of two weeks before taking Ayahuasca.

Using Temaril with MAOIs may increase chance of side effects.

Using Terfenadine with MAOIs may cause an increase in MAOI blood levels.

Using Theophylline with MAOIs may cause rapid heartbeat and anxiety.

Using Tolcapone with MAOIs can stop the catalyst enzyme catechol-O-methyltransferase (COMT) from metabolizing levodopa to 3-O-methyldopa in the periphery, and in the brain.

Using Trazodone (Desyrel) with MAOIs may result in high fever (hyperpyrexic crisis).

Using Tryptophan or L-tryptophan with MAOIs may cause disorientation, confusion, amnesia, delirium agitation, memory impairment, hypomanic signs, shivering.

Using Venlafaxine (Effexor) with MAOIs may result in hypertensive crisis or serotonin syndrome.

Using Ziprasidone (Geodon) with MAOIs may cause serotonin syndrome.

Using Zoloft (Sertraline) with MAOIs has produced fatal cases of serotonin syndrome, and can also result in fever, muscle rigidity, instability of the autonomic nervous system, delirium, and coma.

Special note to diabetics: MAOIs may change the amount of insulin or oral antidiabetic medication that you need

How long do you have to stay off contraindicated drugs before and after an Ayahuasca ceremony?

Depends on the drug. May be 24 hours, may be six months. For over the counter drugs (like antihistamines), 48 hours before and after is more than enough. For prescription drugs, two to six weeks is typical, but do not guess. Find out for sure from your doctor. Your doctor may be unfamiliar with Ayahuasca specifically, but tell him or her that you are planning to take a reversible MAOI. . Some people who plan to drink Ayahuasca in a country where it is not legal are concerned that the doctor will ask questions about the source of the MAOI and learn about an illegal activity. Doctors are bound by doctor-patient confidentiality and they would prefer to know about anything their patients are taking, legal or not. But if your doctor feels that he or she needs more information about Ayahuasca, you could refer him or her to this thread and other informational resources in this forum.

Medical consultation is especially important if you are taking Prozac, Paxil, Wellbutrin, Effexor, Zoloft or other antidepressants that affect serotonin levels, i.e. serotonin selective re-uptake inhibitors (SSRI), because these substances must be reduced gradually. Fluoxetine (Prozac) requires 8 weeks (56 days) and most other SSRIs five weeks (35 days) to clear the system.

Source: http://forums.ayahuasca....pic.php?f=12&t=14761
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#2 Posted : 10/5/2012 4:26:37 PM

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Hmmm, i have used yerba mate with ayahuasca without any problem.
 
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Cheers, Melcat!

I think the message is pretty clear to avoid Aya if you're taking meds. It's certainly a good point in Aya's favor to tell someone that in order to take Ayahuasca the body should be free from all meds and drugs, and interactive foods.

It certainly is a good reminder of the fact that it's serious medicine.
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.thanks MelCat..that's a great list, much needed..!

of more common meds, the two i want to mention can lead to serious complications (incl. possible death) are Prozac and Zoloft..
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polytrip wrote:
Hmmm, i have used yerba mate with ayahuasca without any problem.


Me too, as well and chammomile, dill seeds, tumaric and licorice roots..I have often had all of those things within hours of comming down from the medicine..hmmm
 
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I can't say for sure as I honestly don't know.

I can only assume that all of these things are on the list because they might cause some sort of adverse reaction. Not saying they will cause any harm, just that there is a possibility of a reaction depending on a persons personal chemistry.
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With things like turmeric, maté, chammomille etc, it´s probably dose-dependant. Excessive amounts maybe, could be risky.

Stuff like cat´s claw for instance, is often used as an admixture by curandero´s, while i believe that this herb has also mild MAO-inhibiting effects.
 
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Important thread. I once used minoxidil (rogaine) which is a vascodilator, the same day as I took Aya and itresulted in the worst thumping headache I've ever experienced. It wasn't scary painful, I was able to drive a car and go about by business, (after I came down of course) but it was a memorable headache and lasted most of the day.
 
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Edit - oops demerol is on the list already.

Also many antipsychotics are contraindicting.

Such as quatiapine.
 
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This is quite the list. Glad to know aspirin is not one of the meds. Cool
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I was really surprised to see 5-Meo-DMT on that list. Pharmacological, I had assumed (apparently wrongly) that it was basically identical to N,N-DMT. I know that people who brew with chaliponga are often also taking 5-Meo-DMT in along with the N,N-DMT and MAOI.

Is there a lot of evidence of danger, or is this one of those "it-may-have-gone-badly-once-so-we're-going-to-tell-you-anyway" kind of things?

I'm a big fan of 5-Meo-DMT, and I'd be sad if chaliponga wasn't safe to use.
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Thank you, good research. Very usefull since in the future I plan on trying some aya or combination of MAOIs with vaping. This list had a lot more than I was expecting. I was going to start on this research myself, but a fair amount I needed to look at, I just got. Thank you again.
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Nathanial.Dread wrote:
I was really surprised to see 5-Meo-DMT on that list. Pharmacological, I had assumed (apparently wrongly) that it was basically identical to N,N-DMT. I know that people who brew with chaliponga are often also taking 5-Meo-DMT in along with the N,N-DMT and MAOI.

Is there a lot of evidence of danger, or is this one of those "it-may-have-gone-badly-once-so-we're-going-to-tell-you-anyway" kind of things?

I'm a big fan of 5-Meo-DMT, and I'd be sad if chaliponga wasn't safe to use.


This thread covers your query https://www.dmt-nexus.me...spx?g=posts&t=13240

Great thread melcat, thank you!
 
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Nathanial.Dread wrote:
I'd be sad if chaliponga wasn't safe to use.

i would be extremely shocked.
i feel like if chaliponga wasn't safe in ayahuasca brews, we would know it by now.
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I'm glad there is at least a list that actually explains what a lot of the potential interactions are.... though I still think that list is pretty exhaustive, and probably only a few of those things are actually dangerous in combination, the information provided about all the other stuff is good.

Can't have carrot seeds or licorice root before ayahuasca? Come on.
 
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Some people are serious vulnerable, others not. I think the list is on the safe side of things. I read of a guy who cannot eat 1 singe raisin on maoi or a splitting headache follows, they just exist. It is a decision to put it on the list or not.
 
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#19 Posted : 11/26/2013 11:05:50 AM

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Hi, I am thinking of expanding my experience with DMT by trying Pharmahuasca , Specificaly using Harmine extracted from Syrian rue.

I am currently taking bisoprolol and Ramipril an ACE inhibitor. I have found information on the site regarding ACE inhibitors saying that it is OK to use with Aya. The information i have found about Bisoprolol on the wiki pages for MAOI and RIMAs both state that it is an Antagonist.

My questions are; does this mean it blocks or interferes with the MAOI? Can i or should i even be contemplating taking a MAOI such as Harmine? ( I know, quite subjective but views or first hand experience would be gratefully receivedSmile )

I have had about 100 experiences with DMT freebase including a lot of Breakthroughs (mind you every time i have a breakthrough i think all the others wern't breakthroughsConfused ) and now i would like to experience another aspect of this molecule.

Thank you.

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Pandora
#20 Posted : 11/27/2013 2:13:21 AM

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I presume Tramidol is what in USA is called Tramadol or Ultram and yep, avoid this one as it has SSRI type qualities.

Also, fancy new SNRI's such as Cymbalta.
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