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#21 Posted : 11/5/2009 8:51:47 PM

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I updated the opening post to version 1.1. It now includes isolation information for mescaline HCl and mescaline acetate as well as more detailed information on the properties of mescaline acetate.
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#23 Posted : 11/6/2009 3:50:59 AM

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I've heard that it's possible to drip sulfuric acid onto the xylene layer in cold conditions to precipitate mesc sulfate without having to pull from the xylene with water, has anyone tried this with any success?
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#24 Posted : 1/4/2010 10:00:02 PM

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I updated the first post of this thread to version 1.2 to include the solubility of mescaline acetate in DMSO.
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#25 Posted : 1/4/2010 11:46:49 PM
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Pure mescaline salts should be odorless, correct?

The reason I ask is because I extracted some mescaline from Peruvian Torch and even after purifying it still had a sweet smell. In fact, the container that had the mescaline chloride in it still has the smell even after washing. It is a strange, though pleasant smell, that reminds me somewhat of the smell of coconut bath oil.

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#26 Posted : 1/5/2010 2:03:19 AM

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Yes, it should be odorless. Was it washed with both acetone and then 99% IPA?
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#27 Posted : 1/5/2010 3:02:04 AM
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69ron wrote:
Yes, it should be odorless. Was it washed with both acetone and then 99% IPA?


Yes, but maybe not washed well enough.

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#28 Posted : 1/5/2010 6:11:33 AM

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According to the tests done in the following link the results of an acetone wash followed by an IPA wash should be pretty much pure mescaline HCl, if done right. The results should be white, or off-white (slightly pink because it fluoresces dark red I believe), and "odorless".

Keep in mind that "odorless" is a term that is somewhat subject to personal opinion. I’ve been able to smell so called “odorless” things before. For example, salt and sugar are both "odorless" and I can smell both of them. A dog can smell pretty much anything we call "odorless".

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#29 Posted : 2/9/2010 10:27:19 PM

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69ron wrote:
All good questions.

Unless the cactus flesh was above pH 7, which it’s not, then mescaline must be present in a salt form like mescaline hydrochloride or something similar. The cactus flesh is acidic (around pH 5-6 or so), so the cactus must contain a salt form of mescaline, but I haven’t seen it documented anywhere which salt form it actually is.

From what I read, methanol and ethanol are great solvents to use for a crude cactus extraction. Water produces a thick slimy goo with much more mass to deal with which is almost impossible to filter. Water is not recommended. SWIM has tried all three, and methanol is the best SWIM has tried.


What I want to know is if freebase mescaline is soluble in d-limonene. It would be nice to be able to use d-limonene in an A/B extraction of mescaline. It’s much safer to use than xylene, toluene, or DCM.


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sorry to intrude with such a noobish question. but which form of mescaline is produced by cacti?
orm what is a good solvent to use for making crude cacti extract?


wold IPA99% or acetone work for this. it could be dan with water (resin) but to maths to eat.
so wold like a beter way to do this, methanol is verry expensive in the NL so wold be great if i cold use acetone, sorry for all the questions ,69ron

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