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#421 Posted : 7/23/2013 2:39:02 PM
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..you're doing a fantastic job acacianVery happy ..! i can just kick back and relax..ha,ha..but when i have a chance i'll go through the last few pages..i agree with your diagnoses as far as i can see..
 

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#422 Posted : 7/29/2013 3:26:35 AM

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¿que esta?
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#423 Posted : 7/30/2013 4:29:07 AM

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hey! Usually acacias are hard to identify because they all look pretty much the same.
But as far as I know this isn't mimosa hostilis (jurema preta). It seems to be Acacia podalyriifolia, which is from Australia.
 
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#424 Posted : 7/30/2013 4:29:58 AM

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The second pic, I mean.
 
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#425 Posted : 7/30/2013 12:09:15 PM
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..Voluntus Filius..first one is Acacia fimbriata..a lovely fragrant tree..
no DMT, just phenethylamines..check Trying to Improve Acacia Info INDEX

and hi wedera..you're right about the 2nd..
 
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#426 Posted : 7/31/2013 6:25:21 AM

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Hello people what a great thread this!
Can anyone help me out with these?
Im guessing the last 2 pictures are of Floribunda because of the narrow phylodes and abundant flowers and the middle are maidenii? No idea what the others are!
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#427 Posted : 7/31/2013 6:29:55 AM

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found these growing up in NSW a while ago in the new england area... both growing next to each other. both no basal gland either ... beginning to think there may be many more species in section julifloreae without basal glands

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#428 Posted : 7/31/2013 12:06:22 PM
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^..acacian..i would say that species is within the Acacia concurrens complex>p17 Acacia Info thread here
DreaMTripper..the 1st isn't floribunda as it has ball not rod flowers..the 2nd is probably A. dealbata..haven't got time for the rest yet..

..Acacias are a complex field within botany..
there are presently officially 1380 species worldwide! (around 1000 in australia)
section Juliflora (mentioned by acacian, which contains A. maidenni and phlebophylla) has 255 species..

there are two approaches relevant to this forum:
1) if mainly accessing tryptamines is the key focus, it is best to research (via the Trying to Improve Acacia Info thread) and other sources) which species are confirmed, and then attempt to find specifically these species..a number are very common, and many are available from nurseries or seed is available..
2) if acacias in general are the interest (as in my case, though tryptamines began this interest) then welcome to a long and ongoing learning curve which will fill a lifetime of study..a basic understanding of botanical terminology is needed, and some good references e.g. Flora of Australia Volume 11A, and 11B, Mimosaceae Acacia



..in Africa and Asia general local botany books should suffice as there are less species..

the visual language of plants is an ancient heritage we have become disjunct from, and beginning to learn again..
 
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#429 Posted : 7/31/2013 3:05:20 PM

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Understood, my interests are a bit of both and after starting this search Im discovering such beauty, colour, depth and intricacy , just like a dmt trip and its changing how I look at the world I live in and reality in general, just like a dmt trip! In fact I believe the dmt trip is like the beginning of a proper dialogue with these plants so I want to research more about thier physical prescence in our world then smoke their gift of teleportation crystals and visit them in thier hyperspace worlds.
There is a young interesting acacia up my street that has xmas tree type phylodes and spikey long ones as if its deciding.

Will get better pictures and learn some terminology thanks for looking and assessing my photos.
 
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#430 Posted : 8/2/2013 3:48:19 AM

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Ok so here are the pictures of my findings from yesterday, the grey-green type actually have pale yellow/mustard flowers as you can see, I also discovered yet another species living on the perimeter of the others (of which there are many, possibly hundreds including the baby plants, also much dead wood and alas a possible butchering of one by a path as can be seen in one of the last pictures Sad )

So to summarise..

1 and 2 are of the same tree in an isolated spot, mearnsii esque but not an abundance of flowers which is strange as it gets all day sun..
3 is different
4 and 5 are the same in the concentrated area. 5 shows the ball of shit type thing (no disrespect meant I actually thought it was bat shit at first) at closer inspection looks like a fruit of some kind.
6 and 10 is interesting indeed with the white star shaped flowers, maybe not an acacia at all but seemed to be invasive and living off fallen trees and deadwood..
7 is yet another type living on the perimeter of the above.. Acacia pycnantha??
8 is clearly a tree entity (as they all are!) Very happy apologies I should have rotated it before posting Rolling eyes
9 not sure which/where this is from! Notice the reddy brown 'mouth'
11 and 12 the pale/mustardy type flowers and grey-dark green phyllodes. Ok so after a quick search I conclude this is almost definitely a.dealbata
14 is the possible evidence of bark stripping. Can this also happen naturally?

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#431 Posted : 8/3/2013 12:58:45 AM
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Hey guys could someone possibly identify this acacia please. And the tryptamine alkaloid content if that's possible, Thanks.


 
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#432 Posted : 8/3/2013 4:22:15 AM

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Hey, close ups needed but start on worldwidewattle at deabalta or mearnsii it looks similar but Im a noob id'er too..
 
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Hey, close ups needed but start on worldwidewattle at deabalta or mearnsii it looks similar but Im a noob id'er too..
 
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#434 Posted : 8/3/2013 5:54:10 AM

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hey DreamTripper... in order I think your trees are:

1/2. Paraserianthes lophantha
3. Acacia Retinodes (or possibly Saligna?...)
4/5. Acacia Decurrens
6. not sure sorry but not an acacia
7. again.. either acacia retinodes or saligna.. i have trouble distinguishing between these two but from what I gather retinodes has slightly shorter phyllodes, more red stems and perhaps slightly paler ball flowers (in some specimens anyway) which cluster together on rods rather than the more sparse arrangement on Saligna. they are incredibly similar looking species
8/9. Acacia Paradoxa
11/12. Acacia Baileyana
.. last photo is Acacia Pycnantha

Super .. looks like you have Acacia Dealbata there
 
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#435 Posted : 8/3/2013 7:15:34 AM

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deleted those last 2 posts^ due to some person who seems to be promoting ayahuasca, with a link under they're name to a site selling ayahuasca tea with no relevance at all to this thread or acacia trees.

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#436 Posted : 8/3/2013 1:52:24 PM
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^..thank you jamie..
so, they're trying to put ads in here now..shame!

will have a go at some of the backlog of IDs soon..
much thanks to acacian for his persistence and growing expertise..!
 
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#437 Posted : 8/5/2013 10:29:11 AM

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Many thanks Acacian thats good skill!
So heres another to keep you busy. Pleased
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#438 Posted : 8/5/2013 11:54:29 AM
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^..DreamTripper..i'll step in for a moment..
a more detailed close-up of the phyllodes would help, to see vein pattern and detail..

if there's no basal gland (small dot on the margin of leaf near base),
& depending on vein structure, then it may well be A. floribunda..the flowers certainly look like it..
pods (in a couple of months) would help confirm ID..
 
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#439 Posted : 8/5/2013 1:12:24 PM

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Thanks, most factors seem to be suggesting it is floribunda.
It was a bushy tree perhaps 8ft tall and fairly wide. No basal glands and with the peculiar gap in the phyllodes as if its been purposelessly cut out or eaten by an insect.
Many thin anastomoses and roughly 4 prominent nerves as you can see on the photo.
Is it possible to plant this small branch for it to grow roots and grow into a tree?
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#440 Posted : 8/5/2013 6:57:38 PM
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So I found this acacia tree in my back yard.

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