Pure Meth is over $100 a gram, good coke is at least $75. I know that people can get G's on the street for 35-40 $ but this is usually not good. For good shit if one can get it SWIY is usually buying it in weight or getting it from a friend who does. So the price varies. Amphetamines and europe are a diff story, which SWIM does not know about. In the usa many peoples snort meth, as it is sold in the salt form but they also freebase the base (glass) which is also available. Amphetamine is not readily available here aside from pills (adderal which are used for studying and not much else), it is mostly meth now a days. Which has much more euphoria than amphetamine.

It is not unheard of as some people cut coke with adderal and ritalin although these people are idiots and are at the bottom of the chain of supply. There is a large supply of pure cocaine form S. America. Whereas there is also a large supply of meth form mexico (now).

SWIM would guess that a 10 (pound) gram would not be that pure, as a gram of pure amphetamine would last most people over a week. Amphetamines are also cut on the street check out the analysis on DEA microgram sometimes its only a couple percent pure. I am not sure about coke in Europe although it is likely harder to get it to europe and there is probably thus less of a supply. But in the good ol US of A one can get coke relatively easily it is usually crap (25%) but it is easy in the right places (knowing people) to get scales. Real coke is very shinny, it looks like little scales (fish scale) and very soft. The real rocks flake apart when pressed, if the rocks are hard and white-white it is rerock, which can or can't be good it depends who its from....

I also agree with polytrip about baby steps but cant see obama starting to take any. Yes america arent the only guilty ones, and its the governments not the people, though people allow shit to happen.

Funny you mention Jim Marrs ive been reccomended him twice by folks on this forum, Ill have to check him out cheers for the heads up.

Talking about coke, speed and meth, never tried the latter and try to steer clear of the others but if its there and right situation I might, but I usually regret it, anyhoo recently Ive got to sniffing kanna when in a party mood, can be quite subtle but very synergestic with dope alcohol or psychedelics. Highly reccomended!

Lets set aside the right to spiritual sacrement,obsene non violent jail sentence's and every other reason why some of us, if not all feel that drugs should be legal.

We can alway's try to bail out these banks with drug $, it is a liquid cash bussiness. Check this : http://www.iht.com/artic...K-FINANCIAL-UN-DRUGS.php

Couldnt agree any more.

But People *Beleive* That he can change things. There is a strong feeling about obama, all around. Haven't you noticed?

And while he himself may not change everything which could be perceived as a problem, if people beleive that the world is heading in a better direction, it will.

or, that is my beleif, and the beleif of others like mckenna, etc.

First we listen, then we hit.

Obama has been around as president for less than 10 days. These conversations are useless unless we wait for at least 2-3 years and see what he's going to do.

But more importantly, let's see what he will not do. Many people expect him to do some good things, but this is not my prime concern at the moment. My main concern is that he won't make things that drive world backwards. Previous presidents had been full of shit that drove the world certainly "not forward".

What do you mean?

Sorry,

I just meant that we shoudl reserve our judgement for the moment, since we have not seen much from obama. Let us first see (or "hear) what he has to offer, then "hit" (or judge).

Well they pushed through the economic stimulus plan so everyone can say byebye to the dollar. Its fate is sealed. Drug laws again will be pushed aside while people try to fix the mess thats going to continue to get worse.

I feel like wer're on an inflation,recession,stagflation back to inflation rollercoaster.

Good point on the whole energy thing, but this hope isnt real.

Good vibes arent gonna change us(awaken minds), the wars arent going to stop, we will still be brainwashed, this hope is to keep people from anarchy, i mean noone has a job or money really anymore.. but we have hope.

we are heading towards ONE world, one go'vt one everything, since the 60's

Like terrance said we need to shape our society with the drugs we use,we need to bring back the mushroom!

I also like how he said that no one is in charge, but then again i can argue, maybe the gov't thinks they are in charge.. & are to some degree..

Hopoefully the extra terestrials/this mushroom voice will lead us into a spiritual evolution.

TIME WILL tell, legalize the plant, or wait around for more disapointment...

I agree they will just toss the war on drugs aside, and things will get worse..

People arent even open minded anymore, all they belive is what they are spoon fed, you can't even get them to think what if Obama is just a fraud, worse than bush
& maybe the propehcies are right, WE HAVE 4 years left!!

I'm pretty sure the legalisation of weed is not the prime issue in the world today. What do you guys want, obama to make marijuana legal within a day?

The world has more real problems than legalisation of any drug. Much more serious problems, and I'm sure that if obama has any good intentions and/or plans of action, then world peace, equality, education, welfare, economic stability etc etc are in his top 10 list.

Reformation of drug laws is simply something not as important. Not that it is not important, it certainly is, but the focus is elsewhere at the moment.

I can't wait till everything collapses. Then we will either descend into some brave new world / 1984 scenario or freedom will finally be reconized and respected. What path it takes depends on humanity making smart decisions, something I think is highly unlikely. Anyone ever notice how the phrase "new world order" is all over the news lately? This isn't just some catch phrase, its becoming a scary reality as nations move for more centralized control over the economy and thus peoples freedom to interact and trade with one another. Soon we will all descend into a socialist hell nightmare (remember nazi means national socialism imagine this on a global scale) or people will wake up after the collapse of their wealth and destruction of never ending war to realize that government control over their lives IS THE PROBLEM!

About marijuana f@ck it I'll keep smoking f*ck obama and f#ck the DEA. Yes f#ck the DEA. That goes for all your narcs out there rot in your own hell. Sorry burnts imagination is running wild in a negative sense.

Still defending capitalism burnt?
Did you hear about Iceland? They overthrew their corrupt government for failing to restrain the capitalists and now the Greens are tipped to take charge!
Thanks to whiterasta for this link

I think pot is the FREE THINKING everyone needs to make big changes in the ways we are controled, we can't do anything until we all realize that weve been led astray for far too long..

But unfortunatly the majority of the population can't even begin to understand, they think that they are already free thinkers, ^ that their minds are just as free as any one who "hallucinates" (if not more free) they dont even know the real meaning of the word hallucinate.

**As to what INFUNDIBULUM said...
As long as we are under the gov't power we will never have:

****"world peace(been searching for this since day one, we found it, & they took it) equality, (REAL)education, welfare, economic stability(the economy is already done, hello electronic money)"****

Honestly dude that sounds like a miss america speech(no offensive), were so far away from it its impossible.

weve been fighting for war & freedom our whole lives, yes its a problem but theres only one answer, & those answers were made illegal, they will never let us be as free as we were in the 60's, they learned from that mistake

its funny cause charles manson i guess you could say predicted all this(wonder how he did that.. lol)
If you do a manson torrent search on isohunt & download Manson Speaks-2 ( should find it in a discography bundle) Listen to the talk titled:

.......See, The Truth Is Honor, Honor Is The Truth...............

He talks about world banks, freedom, things that easily slip by people, not only cause their minds(running program 2.0) isnt open enough to even consider it fact, much less that hes a "convicted" serial killer

who at that didnt even get a fair trial..

What you fail to understand is the system we have now is not even close to a true capitalist system. Most people don't understand this though because they do not understand the nature of money in our current society. This is why people are so easily tricked into thinking that the government is now the one who is supposed to solve their problems without realizing that the governments of the world are the ones who caused this problem by interfereing in the market time and time and time again as they have in the past.

How can you have a free market when central banks control interest rates not the market? How can you claim to have a free market when the government has interfered with many many many business including bailing out ones that do things that result in these crisis's? How can you claim this is capitalism when the government subsidizes and gives no bid contracts to huge corporations?

There is no freedom in todays markets, there is only the illusion of freedom to those who do not understand the system of centralized banking and what it has done to the concept of a free market. Everytime in history when markets were allowed to be more free (I mean free from centralized banks and government interference) there was more stability and prosperity in the economy. These boom and bust cycles are a direct result of centralized bankings monopoly of the money supply.

Amen. & theres nothing we can fucking do about it. well we all as a whole can, but everyone has to wake up first..

its funny how the TV or a simple sentence or law can send people in a snowball of ignorant thinking (the illuminatiis way of thinking for us)

Burnt, you are what is called an anarcho-capitalist, maybe a capitalist minarchist at the very least. Society used to work like that, and we spent all our time fighting each other while ruled over by feudal overlords. Unrestrained capitalism is the 'natural' state of things and it failed miserably.

I forgot to mention my point about Iceland was that, in the UK at least, the Green Party advocates the decriminalisation of cannabis. I am in no doubt that they are friendly towards all other entheogens, but just can't shout about it too much for now. So vote Green if you want MJ & other things legalised

Its too bad our votes don't count.
No more NWO = no more Anarchy

There is no such thing as a wasted vote... if a minority of people hadn't voted Green in Iceland, they wouldn't've had ANY presence for the people of Iceland to turn to (and I really hope they do take over). The Greens are finally on the up after 30 odd years, other parties now frantically mimicing/watering down their policies... perhaps something to do with the fact that there is a big "I told you so" in the air!

It is tactical voting that exacerbates the pitiful situation in the USA and other rich comsumerist countries that eliminates choice, producing a choice of 'right of centre' or '1 inch righter of centre'. The old saying rings far too true... "It doesn't matter who you voted for, the government still got in!"

I don't think Obama will change much other than make minorities feel more empowered (a good thing in itself), but I hope to be proven wrong. The inauguration day sickened me, all that right wing christianity preached from a supposedly secular government, what's with that?