I believe that ideally a healthy human diet includes some meat. We have evolved as omnivores, it's only natural. Humans eating meat in general is a part of the cycle of life, and I accept that.

I am a vegetarian, though. I disagree with where our meat comes from. There are other reasons I am vegetarian but this is the main one. Frankly, the way most animals farmed for meat are treated is just plain sick, but I won't talk your ear off (or rather type... your eyes out? ) about that. I think that if you are adverse to (at least once in your adult life) catching a wild animal, killing, skinning and gutting it yourself because it is too much effort or you think it is disgusting or you can not bring yourself to take a life... you should not be a meat eater. Nowadays the idea of the meat you see nice and neatly packaged in supermarkets is too far removed from the idea of the sacrifices an animal has made for your meal.

I don't remember how long I've been vegetarian, but it's less than a year. I have eaten meat maybe twice since. Each time I thought the decision through, thanked the animal (in my head) for it's sacrifice and are the meal slowly and mindfully. I noticed that it was nowhere near as tasty as I had expected and remembered it to be... On one occasion I had a bacon sandwich made with (ethically farmed) streaky bacon and it just tasted like grease and salt. On the other occasion I had a cut of lamb (also ethically farmed), perfectly pan fried medium-rare with a nice pan crust and a rich pan gravy. It was nice, I guess... but not nearly as flavoursome and enjoyable as it was in my memory. It was prepared perfectly (I used to be a chef) but it just wasn't what I was looking for, I guess. It just seemed very plain and lacked something I can't put my finger on.

In a few years time I hope to grow at least half of my own food.



They do respond well to music, yes... but it may actually be noise more so than music. I have seen a study from the last couple of years that compared a control, plants that had been spoken to, plants played classical music and plants played death metal and death metal did the best, followed by classical music, followed by talking to them.

I would have liked the study to include a group being played a loud and constant tone as well to see if tonal variation as in music is even beneficial, or if it IS just noise.

So is anyone sure of non animal foods that are highly Yang in energy?

I am a fan of eastern philosophy and see many valuable lessons from things like Taoism so please don't take this as an attack, but I think you should give up the notion that anyone knows what they're talking about when they say that certain foods are yin or yang. After all, one of the first lessons is to see that all things contain both sides. I've seen extremely manly men that eat almost nothing but salads (many body builders eat like this to lower their % body fat) and I've seen extremely effeminate men that eat a hamburger a day. While your food is always an influence on your health, both physically and mentally, I think it's a bit silly to try and break down foods into yin yang categories like that when there is absolutely no objective way of decided which food goes in which category. As with most things, it comes down to personal perception.

So would you say multivitamin stuff comes down to perception. Like how they say vegans need b12 and other protein sources to survive? Or is that just common sense, or is everyone different?

Have you known people who didn't eat protein and withered away or had major problems from not supplementing with b12?

I mean that's KNOWN from the test of time in science right.

So why don't the Taoist's have the test of time down, when they talk about yin/yang. Why are so many sources contradicting each other and saying one food does this while the other says it does that.

Don't they understand as you do that everything has yin and yang to it? And how do they even know that?

I guess it's possible to exist on a vegetarian diet, but i never managed to try it long enough before i got hungry!

I like to lift weights, but regardless, a high protein (meat) diet definately gives me a lot of power and strength and Carbs give me the energy. Salads and leafy veg seem to relax me and round it off.

Food is sacred, and should be cooked and consumed in a ritualistic manner. It should never be rushed or treated as something that gets in the way of doing stuff, unless it's a small snack. Respect food and what it gives you. If you don't enjoy the taste learn how to cook and make the most of it. Unless you are a monk who meditates, you're probably an active human who needs energy and strength to survive the crap that modern life throws at us. A vegan diet in my opinion not supply your energy requirements for being that "winner" that today requires.

I guess it's possible to exist on a vegetarian diet, but i never managed to try it long enough before i got hungry!

I like to lift weights, but regardless, a high protein (meat) diet definately gives me a lot of power and strength and Carbs give me the energy. Salads and leafy veg seem to relax me and round it off.

Food is sacred, and should be cooked and consumed in a ritualistic manner. It should never be rushed or treated as something that gets in the way of doing stuff, unless it's a small snack. Respect food and what it gives you. If you don't enjoy the taste learn how to cook and make the most of it. Unless you are a monk who meditates, you're probably an active human who needs energy and strength to survive the crap that modern life throws at us. A vegan diet in my opinion not supply your energy requirements for being that "winner" that today requires.

I guess it's possible to exist on a vegetarian diet, but i never managed to try it long enough before i got hungry!

I like to lift weights, but regardless, a high protein (meat) diet definately gives me a lot of power and strength and Carbs give me the energy. Salads and leafy veg seem to relax me and round it off.

Food is sacred, and should be cooked and consumed in a ritualistic manner. It should never be rushed or treated as something that gets in the way of doing stuff, unless it's a small snack. Respect food and what it gives you. If you don't enjoy the taste learn how to cook and make the most of it. Unless you are a monk who meditates, you're probably an active human who needs energy and strength to survive the crap that modern life throws at us. A vegan diet in my opinion not supply your energy requirements for being that "winner" that today requires.