[16:22] <Darkgroove> explain?
[16:22] <Fat_Lard> ok so just bare with me
[16:22] <Fat_Lard> because without hearing all of it
[16:23] <Fat_Lard> you might not understand
[16:23] <Darkgroove> ok
[16:23] <Darkgroove> i probably won't understand it anyway, but go on
[16:23] <Fat_Lard> hmm... ill start by asking you do you think time travel will ever be possible in the future?
[16:23] <Fat_Lard> if not i can prove to you it will
[16:23] <Fat_Lard> "will"
[16:23] <Fat_Lard> as true time is an illusion. but i digress
[16:23] <Fat_Lard> yes/no?
[16:23] <Darkgroove> to the past, yes. i'm not sure about the future
[16:24] <Fat_Lard> great
[16:24] <Fat_Lard> now, what do you know about
[16:24] <Fat_Lard> 2012
[16:24] <Darkgroove> asteroid destroying the planet?
[16:24] <Fat_Lard> the mayan predictions, mckenna, you know
[16:24] <Darkgroove> mayan calender
[16:24] <Darkgroove> etc
[16:24] <Fat_Lard> all that hype
[16:24] <Fat_Lard> yes
[16:24] <Darkgroove> yes
[16:24] <Fat_Lard> ok
[16:24] <Fat_Lard> now i can begin to explain
[16:25] <Fat_Lard> time travel WILL be possible to future humans
[16:25] <Fat_Lard> or whatever organisms we evolve into
[16:25] <Darkgroove> both future and past?
[16:25] <Fat_Lard> yes
[16:25] <Darkgroove> ok
[16:25] <Fat_Lard> and youll see how in a min
[16:25] <Fat_Lard> so
[16:25] <Fat_Lard> because SOMEONE in the future gets time travel, they can bring it back to the past
[16:26] <Fat_Lard> but the mechanism for time travel is actually inside consciousness (i can explain later)
[16:26] <Fat_Lard> and there MUST be a time when the first mechanisms for time travel are possible
[16:26] <Fat_Lard> because they havent evolved this trait yet
[16:26] <Fat_Lard> they can still go back
[16:27] <Fat_Lard> which is QUITE evident
[16:27] <Fat_Lard> that is how the pyramids were made
[16:27] <Fat_Lard> by us from the future
[16:27] <Fat_Lard> thats what these spaceship UFOs are
[16:27] <Fat_Lard> now
[16:27] <Darkgroove> you think we are their Gods, from the future?
[16:27] <Fat_Lard> where it gets crazy is
[16:27] <Fat_Lard> o you will see
[16:28] <Fat_Lard> that at the SPLIT second you evolve time travel, crazy shit begins to happen
[16:28] <Fat_Lard> you can travel into the future now
[16:28] <Fat_Lard> so you go 100million years in the future and come back to the first date time travel was possible
[16:28] <Fat_Lard> with TONS of new knowledge
[16:28] <Fat_Lard> that you share
[16:28] <Fat_Lard> well not even you
[16:29] <Fat_Lard> if ANYONE did this
[16:29] <Fat_Lard> which is bound to happen
[16:29] <Fat_Lard> then
[16:29] <Fat_Lard> you get yourself a singularity
[16:29] <Fat_Lard> there is no future when this is evolved
[16:29] <Fat_Lard> that's what 2012 is
[16:30] <Fat_Lard> thats why we have been being watched for the past few thousand years
[16:30] <Fat_Lard> to see our development to the split second
[16:30] <Fat_Lard> they even predicted it
[16:30] <Fat_Lard> and told it to their myan slaves
[16:30] <Fat_Lard> its a self-fulfilling prophecy
[16:30] <Fat_Lard> now it goes MUCH deeper
[16:30] <Darkgroove> wait so the evolved beings from the future
[16:30] <Darkgroove> went back in time
[16:30] <Fat_Lard> yes
[16:30] <Darkgroove> to the Mayans
[16:31] <Fat_Lard> to everyone
[16:31] <Darkgroove> but then how is there a future
[16:31] <Fat_Lard> they hinted at it
[16:31] <Darkgroove> if we end in 2012
[16:31] <Fat_Lard> and told us for 2000 years the world was ending soon
[16:31] <Fat_Lard> look at jesus
[16:31] <Fat_Lard> he had all this "magic"
[16:31] <Fat_Lard> which
[16:31] <Fat_Lard> in a singularity you really would have magic
[16:31] <Fat_Lard> you would instantly become a god the moment you hit that point
[16:32] <Fat_Lard> because all evolution that could possibly take place
[16:32] <Fat_Lard> and all information that could possibly be learned
[16:32] <Darkgroove> <Darkgroove> but then how is there a future
[16:32] <Darkgroove> <Darkgroove> if we end in 2012
[16:32] <Fat_Lard> ok now it gets weird
[16:32] <Fat_Lard> there really is no future
[16:32] <Fat_Lard> look at what i explained to you
[16:33] <Fat_Lard> and imagine the effects of bringing this singularity in
[16:33] <Darkgroove> define singularity please
[16:33] <Fat_Lard> all possible events at once
[16:33] <Fat_Lard> like think about it
[16:34] <Fat_Lard> if you knew you could set up a 1million year long experiment
[16:34] <Fat_Lard> and hop 1million years in the future and see the results
[16:34] <Fat_Lard> go back to when time travel was first possible
[16:34] <Fat_Lard> repeat
[16:34] <Fat_Lard> over and over and over
[16:34] <Fat_Lard> then ALL possible events are occuring
[16:34] <Fat_Lard> occurring*
[16:34] <Fat_Lard> at onces
[16:34] <Fat_Lard> once
[16:34] <Darkgroove> ah i see
[16:34] <Fat_Lard> and heres the beauty
[16:34] <Darkgroove> ok go on
[16:35] <Fat_Lard> my theory can be proven 100% without a doubt
[16:35] <Fat_Lard> like no disputing it
[16:35] <Fat_Lard> depending only 1 fact
[16:35] <Fat_Lard> if time travel will ever be possible
[16:35] <Fat_Lard> this is what is going on
[16:35] <Fat_Lard> EVER
[16:35] <Fat_Lard> in 1000000000000000BILLION BILLION years
[16:36] <Fat_Lard> then this is whats happening
[16:36] <Fat_Lard> because think about it
[16:36] <Fat_Lard> the universe is infinitea
[16:36] <Fat_Lard> and a race like that couldnt just forget time travel
[16:36] <Fat_Lard> even if the first 100 generations didnt abuse it, SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE will
[16:36] <Fat_Lard> there is evil, corruption and greed
[16:37] <Fat_Lard> it is guaranteed to happen, 100% chance, without a doubt
[16:37] <Fat_Lard> and heres where metaphysics comes in
[16:37] <Fat_Lard> ill leave the mechanism the time machine works on out
[16:37] <Fat_Lard> btw
[16:37] <Fat_Lard> but i figured it out
[16:37] <Fat_Lard> and its very spiritual
[16:38] <Fat_Lard> and requires physic ability
[16:38] <Fat_Lard> ANYWAY
[16:38] <Fat_Lard> all that esp
[16:38] <Fat_Lard> and stuff
[16:38] <Darkgroove> so are our evolved versions of us, our Gods?
[16:38] <Fat_Lard> may be information brought back from the future
[16:38] <Fat_Lard> i dont know man
[16:38] <Fat_Lard> its up for interpretation
[16:38] <Fat_Lard> but yes they came from us
[16:38] <Fat_Lard> but you see
[16:39] <Fat_Lard> with the singularity you must keep in mind that like ANYTHING is possible
[16:39] <Fat_Lard> and is happening
[16:39] <Fat_Lard> and that's what were headed towards
[16:39] <Darkgroove> <Fat_Lard> with the singularity you must keep in mind that like ANYTHING is possible
[16:39] <Darkgroove> jesus said that on the mountain
[16:39] <Darkgroove> when he gave us the beatitudes
[16:40] <Darkgroove>
[16:40] <Darkgroove> lol
[16:40] <Fat_Lard> I think that religion is a thing of the future too
[16:40] <Fat_Lard> like
[16:40] <Fat_Lard> to condition us
[16:40] <Darkgroove> for?
[16:40] <Fat_Lard> so the singularity can be at its earliest possible date
[16:41] <Fat_Lard> no you see, this singularity
[16:41] <Fat_Lard> or universal oneness, tao
[16:41] <Fat_Lard> all that stuff from ancient religions
[16:41] <Fat_Lard> imagine it like this
[16:41] <Fat_Lard> it wants to basically eat the time line to the other side back into infinity
[16:41] <Fat_Lard> but it cant
[16:42] <Fat_Lard> because the way time travel works isnt possible yet
[16:42] <Fat_Lard> but if they were to teach and develop us
[16:42] <Fat_Lard> when we were in modern-man infancy
[16:42] <Darkgroove> so it's not possible unless they come back and teach us?
[16:42] <Fat_Lard> with the development of language, farming, the wheel. then later geometry, flight
[16:43] <Fat_Lard> no no you cant teach this
[16:43] <Darkgroove> oh
[16:43] <Fat_Lard> this is what buddha meant by enlightenment
[16:43] <Fat_Lard> and from the way im understanding it, you need a fairly extensive knowledge of how things are connected
[16:44] <Fat_Lard> and an understanding of parallel universes
[16:44] <Fat_Lard> but this is made from inside yourself
[16:44] <Fat_Lard> its magic essentially
[16:44] <Fat_Lard> but not really
[16:44] <Fat_Lard> and i cant explain why to you
[16:44] <Fat_Lard> but is this making sense?
[16:45] <Darkgroove> sort of
[16:45] <Fat_Lard> please say yes
[16:45] <Fat_Lard> i dont want to feel crazy
[16:45] <Darkgroove> lol
[16:45] <Fat_Lard> but now you see why it HAS to be this date
[16:45] <Darkgroove> i don't understand why it can't be taught though
[16:45] <Fat_Lard> its a self-realization
[16:46] <Fat_Lard> because you have to completely DESTROY your ego to study what a singularity is
[16:46] <Fat_Lard> and actually
[16:46] <Fat_Lard> when it comes down to it
[16:46] <Darkgroove> time travel is a self-realization?
[16:46] <Fat_Lard> you could get out of this mess
[16:46] <Fat_Lard> by going in the past and hiding
[16:46] <Fat_Lard> and basically gain immortality
[16:47] <Darkgroove> :o
[16:47] <Fat_Lard> which i can explain with quantum mechanics if you know it
[16:47] <Darkgroove> give it a go
[16:47] <Fat_Lard> ok so you know what a parallel universe is right?
[16:47] <Fat_Lard> and btw this was all channeled to me in the span of 3 days
[16:47] <Fat_Lard> ALL of it
[16:47] <Fat_Lard> I didn't have any theory before then
[16:48] <Fat_Lard> and I dont think these are even my thoughts
[16:48] <Fat_Lard> these are THE thoughts man
[16:48] <Fat_Lard> but anyway
[16:48] <Darkgroove> lol ok
[16:48] <Fat_Lard> parallel universe. something is different than the one we are on
[16:48] <Fat_Lard> ill refer to a time line as a parallel universe from now on
[16:49] <Fat_Lard> because as you will see its more like pixels
[16:49] <Fat_Lard> and there is no time or space really
[16:49] <Fat_Lard> only points
[16:49] <Fat_Lard> but its also time AND space depending on how you look at it
[16:49] <Fat_Lard> and this all emerges from a time flux btw
[16:50] <Fat_Lard> which actually is more proof for my theory
[16:50] <Darkgroove> time flux?
[16:50] <Fat_Lard> because science openly states that there are an infinite number of parallel universes
[16:50] <Fat_Lard> INFINITE
[16:50] <Fat_Lard> you know what that means right?
[16:51] <Darkgroove> no :'(
[16:51] <Fat_Lard> by definition, there is a universe where hopping from one timeline to another is possible
[16:51] <Fat_Lard> actually
[16:51] <Darkgroove> so
[16:51] <Fat_Lard> there are an INFINITY amount of universes where time hopping is possible
[16:51] <Fat_Lard> so? thats proof of the singularity
[16:51] <Darkgroove> if we were to time travel, we'd have to specify which parallel universe we'd want to hop to?
[16:51] <Fat_Lard> because even if WE dont create timetravel sometime
[16:51] <Fat_Lard> someone does
[16:52] <Fat_Lard> yes
[16:52] <Fat_Lard> thats where the intention comes in
[16:52] <Fat_Lard> you need to learn that on your own
[16:52] <Fat_Lard> its a psychic ability
[16:52] <Fat_Lard> cant be taught
[16:52] <Fat_Lard> its like teaching how to curl your tounge
[16:52] <Fat_Lard> you either can or you cant
[16:53] <Fat_Lard> so
[16:53] <Fat_Lard> my 1 string of proof i needed for this to HAVE to be real
[16:53] <Fat_Lard> was whether or not we ever evolve time travel
[16:54] <Fat_Lard> and string theory and quantum mechanics say there are an INFINITE number of parallel universes
[16:54] <Fat_Lard> so
[16:54] <Fat_Lard> that means that something, somewhere creates time travel
[16:54] <Fat_Lard> us or not, doesnt matter
[16:54] <Fat_Lard> singularity still happens
[16:54] <Fat_Lard> and thats what consciousness does you see
[16:54] <Fat_Lard> keep in mind we didnt have this thousands of years ago
[16:55] <Fat_Lard> ok so
[16:55] <Darkgroove> ok so back to the egyptians
[16:55] <Fat_Lard> every time a possible change is possible
[16:55] <Darkgroove> what exactly did the time travellers do?
[16:55] <Fat_Lard> ANY change, down to the spin on a single electron in the entire universe
[16:55] <Fat_Lard> fuck
[16:55] <Fat_Lard> fine
[16:55] <Fat_Lard> what did they do?
[16:56] <Fat_Lard> assumed the form of a man-beast with magic and told them to please them all day
[16:56] <Darkgroove> so they were enslaved
[16:56] <Fat_Lard> and in return they give them geometry
[16:56] <Darkgroove> what about pharoah?
[16:56] <Fat_Lard> thats what a pharoah is
[16:56] <Fat_Lard> lol esp
[16:57] <Darkgroove> lol
[16:57] <Fat_Lard> no rly
[16:57] <Fat_Lard> you know the intwined snakes in the shape of the double helix dna?
[16:57] <Darkgroove> ok so did the manbeasts die out?
[16:57] <Fat_Lard> no how could they
[16:57] <Darkgroove> they were immortal?
[16:57] <Darkgroove> or did they return
[16:58] <Fat_Lard> they really were an omnipotent god
[16:58] <Fat_Lard> like you think about in Christianity
[16:58] <Darkgroove> so what happened to them?
[16:58] <Fat_Lard> i dont know what they did
[16:58] <Fat_Lard> this is beyond y knowledge
[16:58] <Fat_Lard> youre asking specifics
[16:58] <Darkgroove> if they were being pleased all day
[16:58] <Fat_Lard> and an observer man
[16:58] <Darkgroove> why would they leave
[16:58] <Darkgroove> it was paradise
[16:58] <Fat_Lard> im not part of the god yet
[16:58] <Fat_Lard> ah but
[16:58] <Darkgroove> lol
[16:59] <Fat_Lard> if you let me finish with the parallel universes
[16:59] <Fat_Lard> you would see they didnt leave
[16:59] <Darkgroove> ok go for it
[16:59] <Fat_Lard> basically, everything you see is an illusion
[16:59] <Fat_Lard> or a misinterpretation
[16:59] <Darkgroove> so what i'm reading is an illusion?
[16:59] <Fat_Lard> like I was saying before, all possible changes for any possibility creates a new universe
[17:00] <Fat_Lard> thats how infinity functions
[17:00] <Fat_Lard> thats how it functions in math too
[17:00] <Fat_Lard> and no not really
[17:00] <Fat_Lard> so
[17:00] <Fat_Lard> from what i said
[17:00] <Fat_Lard> you can hold a gun to your head
[17:00] <Fat_Lard> and pull the trigger like 15 times in a row and the gun jams all of those times
[17:01] <Fat_Lard> by the definition of infinity
[17:01] <Fat_Lard> there is somewhere you are not dead
[17:01] <Fat_Lard> and the weird/scary part is
[17:01] <Fat_Lard> it really is you
[17:01] <Fat_Lard> and you would realize you pulled the gun 15 times
[17:01] <Fat_Lard> and you should be dead
[17:01] <Fat_Lard> and heres where it gets fucked up
[17:02] <Darkgroove> have you seen prestige?
[17:02] <Fat_Lard> how exactly do you know which "universe" you will land in
[17:02] <Fat_Lard> yes
[17:02] <Fat_Lard> i think that all these ideas people have
[17:02] <Fat_Lard> are prefabricated into our reality
[17:02] <Darkgroove> is it sort of like what the guy does with the machine?
[17:02] <Fat_Lard> before who knows how much of our lives were structured by the future
[17:02] <Fat_Lard> yes
[17:02] <Fat_Lard> and if what i proposed is true
[17:03] <Fat_Lard> thats why that movie was made
[17:03] <Fat_Lard> to allow this concept to manifest in someone
[17:03] <Fat_Lard> and thats why the gods left eygpt (in our perspective)
[17:04] <Darkgroove> and they did the same with the mayans?
[17:04] <Fat_Lard> there HAS to be a universe where they left
[17:04] <Fat_Lard> its all the same man
[17:04] <Fat_Lard> all religions are the same
[17:04] <Fat_Lard> all ancient cultures
[17:04] <Fat_Lard> thats why they all knew so much about the stars and how they work
[17:05] <Fat_Lard> they even knew more than modern science
[17:05] <Fat_Lard> the stars really do influence our lives quite a bit
[17:05] <Fat_Lard> because they are organisms
[17:05] <Fat_Lard> but thats another topic
[17:05] <Fat_Lard> so
[17:05] <Fat_Lard> my all encompassing theory of everything
[17:05] <Fat_Lard> that HAS to be right
[17:05] <Fat_Lard> theres no way it couldnt be
[17:05] <Fat_Lard> its pure, steadfast logic
[17:05] <Fat_Lard> what do you think of it?
[17:06] <Fat_Lard> converted?
[17:06] <Fat_Lard> your the first person i ever told really
[17:06] <Fat_Lard> except my psychonaut friend who helped design it
[17:06] <Darkgroove> tell shredder about it, it's quite fascinating
[17:06] <Fat_Lard> you're*
[17:06] <Fat_Lard> copy it and upload it somewhere
[17:07] <Darkgroove> write an easy on it
[17:07] <Darkgroove> if you haven't already
[17:08] <Fat_Lard> i cant
[17:08] <Fat_Lard> because i lost my memory
[17:08] <Darkgroove> so the ancient gods are all the same?
[17:08] <Fat_Lard> its a singularity so yeah kinda
[17:08] <Fat_Lard> technically i guess
[17:09] <Fat_Lard> its the universal oneness
[17:09] <Fat_Lard> the everything
[17:09] <Darkgroove> and they are the abusers of it?
[17:09] <Darkgroove> of time travel*
[17:09] <Fat_Lard> thats how this exploitation is made
[17:09] <Fat_Lard> and its not really abuse
[17:09] <Fat_Lard> it was bound to happen
[17:09] <Fat_Lard> like i said its a self-fulfilling prophecy
[17:10] <Darkgroove> it is though, prophecy or not, they took advantage of a less developed civilization and enslaved them
[17:10] <Darkgroove> in exchange for geometry
[17:10] <Fat_Lard> thats why i didnt want to tell you
[17:10] <Fat_Lard> look
[17:10] <Darkgroove>
[17:11] <Fat_Lard> there HAS TO FUCKING BE a universe where those events happen
[17:11] <Fat_Lard> but
[17:11] <Fat_Lard> you see
[17:11] <Darkgroove> yes the singularity
[17:11] <Fat_Lard> infinity is polar
[17:11] <Fat_Lard> so
[17:11] <Fat_Lard> infinite universes also means there is just as many infinite universes where the exact same gods are helping the exact same people it hurt in some
[17:12] <Fat_Lard> its the perfect duality
[17:12] <Fat_Lard> yin and yang, good and bad, alpha and omega
[17:12] <Darkgroove> right
[17:12] <Fat_Lard> dude
[17:12] <Fat_Lard> copy paste that
[17:12] <Fat_Lard> i clicked x
[17:13] <Fat_Lard> i dont want to retype
[17:13] <Fat_Lard> save it as a .txt please
[17:13] <Fat_Lard> the whole conve
[17:13] <Fat_Lard> convo*
[17:13] <Darkgroove> do you think, currently, there is a way to hop between the parallel universes and be in the same time frame, except in that universe?
[17:13] <Fat_Lard> yes
[17:13] <Darkgroove> (horrible grammar)
[17:13] <Fat_Lard> not only possible
[17:13] <Fat_Lard> bound to happen
[17:13] <Fat_Lard> actually, be happening
[17:14] <Fat_Lard> o
[17:14] <Fat_Lard> you mean us?
[17:14] <Darkgroove> yes
[17:14] <Fat_Lard> well i did
[17:14] <Fat_Lard> but
[17:14] <Fat_Lard> only once
[17:14] <Fat_Lard> and just to test
[17:14] <Darkgroove> how
[17:14] <Fat_Lard> smoked pot, sat down and meditated, chanted a mantra
[17:15] <Fat_Lard> and then i performed some magic
[17:15] <Fat_Lard> and it was doing what i asked it to do
[17:15] <Fat_Lard> but i was fucking scared
[17:15] <Fat_Lard> and lost my memory
[17:15] <Fat_Lard> of like everything
[17:15] <Darkgroove> wait what did what you asked it to?
[17:15] <Fat_Lard> i couldnt remember what i was thinking 3 seconds ago
[17:16] <Fat_Lard> just a few events that wouldnt happen by chance to happen to know I could change the timeline i was viewing
[17:16] <Fat_Lard> this is before i figured it out completely
[17:16] <Fat_Lard> but
[17:16] <Fat_Lard> im still feeling the effects of it a bit
[17:16] <Fat_Lard> and
[17:16] <Fat_Lard> i think next time could be worse
[17:16] <Fat_Lard> so
[17:16] <Fat_Lard> im not ready
[17:17] <Fat_Lard> i think i do that on 2012
(02:42:04 AM) Fat_Lard: if this is real you know what that means right?
(02:42:13 AM) Fat_Lard: ill give a speech 1 day and say
(02:42:17 AM) Fat_Lard: yes my friends
(02:42:23 AM) Fat_Lard: we are changing
(02:42:27 AM) Fat_Lard: we are plugging in
(02:42:39 AM) Fat_Lard: and i am the creator and savior
(02:42:43 AM) Fat_Lard: the return of jesus
(02:42:48 AM) Fat_Lard: and so are you
(02:42:50 AM) Fat_Lard: somewhere
(02:43:02 AM) Fat_Lard: in a universe not unlike the 1 we are experiencing
(02:43:06 AM) Fat_Lard: so do not praise me
(02:43:14 AM) Fat_Lard: rejoice in our new awareness
(02:43:20 AM) Fat_Lard: of how small we really are
(02:43:28 AM) Fat_Lard: we are all saviors
(02:43:33 AM) Fat_Lard: on different timelines
(02:44:39 AM) Yeshua: I am jesus
(02:47:03 AM) Fat_Lard: yes.
(02:47:06 AM) Fat_Lard: somewhere
(02:47:09 AM) Fat_Lard: and really
(02:47:19 AM) Fat_Lard: are the other universes any less "real" than ours?
(02:47:24 AM) Fat_Lard: why would/should they be?
(02:48:56 AM) Yeshua: well they all exist in reality
(02:48:56 AM) Fat_Lard: we are all god
(02:49:02 AM) Fat_Lard: playing a game to wake up
(02:49:07 AM) Fat_Lard: for eternity
(02:49:13 AM) Fat_Lard: in every possible way
(02:49:16 AM) Fat_Lard: o fuck
(02:49:40 AM) Fat_Lard: IS THERE NO RELEASE MAN!?
(02:49:46 AM) Fat_Lard: lol
(02:50:39 AM) Fat_Lard: ok i think i figured this out
(02:50:53 AM) Fat_Lard: this is how to run from infinity
(02:51:07 AM) Fat_Lard: which just makes "your" experience more enjoyable
(02:51:08 AM) Fat_Lard: somehow
(02:51:14 AM) Fat_Lard: even though this was going to happen
(02:51:16 AM) Yeshua: doublethink
(02:51:18 AM) Fat_Lard: so you die
(02:51:31 AM) Fat_Lard: and you chase a dimension filled with utopia and bliss
(02:51:38 AM) Fat_Lard: like jesus did with heaven
(02:51:46 AM) Fat_Lard: because that is a real universe
(02:51:49 AM) Fat_Lard: and that means
(02:51:53 AM) Fat_Lard: this is what karma is
(02:51:58 AM) Fat_Lard: because really
(02:52:06 AM) Fat_Lard: if everything else makes kinda sense
(02:52:16 AM) Fat_Lard: then we really are just "god" playing a game
(02:52:21 AM) Fat_Lard: to realize the game
(02:52:27 AM) Fat_Lard: and thats when it ends
(02:52:31 AM) Fat_Lard: except it doesnt end
(02:52:34 AM) Fat_Lard: just changes
(02:52:48 AM) Fat_Lard: so we are at the peak of our good deeds man
(02:53:00 AM) Fat_Lard: we just choose a blissful universe
(02:53:11 AM) Fat_Lard: and keep on living eternity out
(02:53:27 AM) Yeshua: I don't want to live for eternity
(02:53:37 AM) Fat_Lard: you always have been
(02:53:40 AM) Fat_Lard: dont you realize
(02:53:43 AM) Fat_Lard: i dont either
(02:53:44 AM) Fat_Lard: but
(02:53:47 AM) Fat_Lard: we have been
(02:53:52 AM) Fat_Lard: its already been eternity
(02:54:04 AM) Fat_Lard: and there will be eternity to pass
(02:54:07 AM) Fat_Lard: you have no say in it
(02:54:15 AM) Fat_Lard: it is the most basic part
(02:54:18 AM) Fat_Lard: of everything
(02:54:24 AM) Fat_Lard: its the lepton man
(02:54:33 AM) Fat_Lard: figuratively speaking
(02:55:17 AM) Fat_Lard: there is no stopping this
(02:55:26 AM) Fat_Lard: but
(02:55:32 AM) Fat_Lard: at the exact same time
(02:55:46 AM) Fat_Lard: since you picked to live eternity in bliss
(02:55:53 AM) Fat_Lard: it means no more timeline changing
(02:56:02 AM) Fat_Lard: and then
(02:56:09 AM) Fat_Lard: its kind of a resolution
(02:56:29 AM) Fat_Lard: i bet watching history with this knowledge will be lulz
(02:56:34 AM) Fat_Lard: stupid humans
(02:56:44 AM) Yeshua: that is depressing
(02:56:48 AM) Fat_Lard: dude
(02:56:50 AM) Fat_Lard: i know
(02:56:51 AM) Fat_Lard: but
(02:56:51 AM) Yeshua: is there any way to commit suicide out of the whole thing
(02:57:06 AM) Fat_Lard: that will incur debt against karma
(02:57:12 AM) Fat_Lard: you will escape
(02:57:17 AM) Fat_Lard: but you dont know where to
(02:57:32 AM) Fat_Lard: you may be stuck in a world with energy only
(02:57:42 AM) Fat_Lard: and the way that universe is laid out
(02:57:44 AM) Fat_Lard: you know
(02:57:49 AM) Fat_Lard: it to could be for eternity
(02:58:04 AM) Fat_Lard: we just so happened to have a timeline that has a singularity
(02:58:15 AM) Fat_Lard: which is a way to pick an end
(02:58:19 AM) Fat_Lard: but not an end
(02:58:27 AM) Fat_Lard: everything is strangely paradoxical
(02:58:40 AM) Yeshua: ffffffuuuuu
(02:58:48 AM) Yeshua: no way to suicide out of the entire thing?
(02:59:00 AM) Fat_Lard: well
(02:59:15 AM) Fat_Lard: would you rather be nothing for eternity?
(02:59:25 AM) Fat_Lard: i suppose thats a possibility
(02:59:35 AM) Fat_Lard: but you cant escape eternity
(02:59:39 AM) Fat_Lard: i mean
(02:59:47 AM) Yeshua: well no
(02:59:50 AM) Yeshua: I wouldn't be nothing
(02:59:52 AM) Yeshua: I'd simply not be
(02:59:57 AM) Yeshua: nothingness isn't a thing
(03:00:00 AM) Yeshua: it's the absense of anything
(03:00:08 AM) Fat_Lard: that is why the question of what was before the big bang cant be answered
(03:00:15 AM) Fat_Lard: and nothing is something
(03:00:23 AM) Fat_Lard: because by being nothing you arent being something else
(03:00:29 AM) Yeshua: right
(03:00:30 AM) Fat_Lard: you see?
(03:00:32 AM) Yeshua: you are being nothing at all
(03:00:35 AM) Yeshua: it's not even being
(03:00:38 AM) Yeshua: it's the absense of all things
(03:00:47 AM) Yeshua: not being something else isn't doing something
(03:00:48 AM) Fat_Lard: you are trying to escape consciousness
(03:00:50 AM) Yeshua: it's the absense of doing anything
(03:00:52 AM) Fat_Lard: and as im sure you know
(03:00:57 AM) Fat_Lard: everything is conscious
(03:01:01 AM) Fat_Lard: you just arent aware
(03:01:08 AM) Fat_Lard: imagine what its like to be an atom
(03:01:15 AM) Fat_Lard: that still has consciousness
(03:01:19 AM) Yeshua: >_____>
(03:01:20 AM) Fat_Lard: thats what connects us
(03:01:27 AM) Yeshua: why do you say that that has consciousness?
(03:01:32 AM) Fat_Lard: its just not the same way you think of it
(03:01:52 AM) Fat_Lard: were going too deep
(03:01:58 AM) Fat_Lard: i cant answer that
(03:02:00 AM) Fat_Lard: but
(03:02:03 AM) Fat_Lard: back to being stuck
(03:02:09 AM) Fat_Lard: if you are nothing
(03:02:15 AM) Fat_Lard: you will still be nothing forever
(03:02:17 AM) Fat_Lard: so
(03:02:27 AM) Fat_Lard: if thats how you really want to spend your eternity
(03:02:32 AM) Fat_Lard: is a void
(03:02:39 AM) Yeshua: it wouldn't be a void to me
(03:02:42 AM) Fat_Lard: but you are still nothing forever
(03:02:43 AM) Yeshua: it simply wouldn't be
(03:02:48 AM) Fat_Lard: no
(03:02:52 AM) Fat_Lard: you would BE the void
(03:02:57 AM) Yeshua: there wouldn't be a void
(03:03:02 AM) Yeshua: nothingness isn't an empty space
(03:03:02 AM) Fat_Lard: you cant escape yourself
(03:03:07 AM) Yeshua: nothingness is absolutely nothing at all >_>
(03:03:22 AM) Fat_Lard: thats not what the universe is
(03:03:27 AM) Fat_Lard: or multiverse or whatever
(03:03:31 AM) Fat_Lard: you are part of it
(03:03:36 AM) Fat_Lard: you cant not be part of it
(03:03:36 AM) Yeshua: I didn't say that the universe was that
(03:03:48 AM) Yeshua: depends
(03:03:55 AM) Yeshua: if my consciousness is only an emergent property of my brain
(03:03:58 AM) Yeshua: then when my brain is destroyed
(03:04:00 AM) Fat_Lard: no
(03:04:01 AM) Yeshua: my consciousness vanishes
(03:04:05 AM) Fat_Lard: no
(03:04:07 AM) Fat_Lard: it changes
(03:04:13 AM) Fat_Lard: you see thats how karma works
(03:04:16 AM) Yeshua: >_>
(03:04:17 AM) Fat_Lard: i think i get this now
(03:04:18 AM) Fat_Lard: like
(03:04:20 AM) Fat_Lard: you die
(03:04:26 AM) Fat_Lard: and "you" are gone
(03:04:51 AM) Yeshua: yes
(03:08:10 AM) Fat_Lard: Ohhhh. ok ok I get it. there is a kind of "you cant get there from here" effect with some stuff. like from the timeline we are on we CANT go to a timeline in which we never switched a timeline before the singularity happens
(03:08:28 AM) Fat_Lard: because you need to make the choice to not make the choice which defies the first
(03:08:37 AM) Fat_Lard: interesting rule. ill need to keep that in mind
(03:09:07 AM) Fat_Lard: thats what karma is
(03:09:29 AM) Yeshua: I thought karma was do good, receive good, do bad, receive bad
(03:09:39 AM) Fat_Lard: the life you chose in YOUR lifetime can effect what choices you CAN make
(03:09:42 AM) Fat_Lard: like think about it
(03:09:58 AM) Fat_Lard: there are a lot of universes stuck in the "for eternity" thing
(03:10:04 AM) Fat_Lard: they can never ever leave that
(03:10:09 AM) Fat_Lard: ever
(03:10:23 AM) Fat_Lard: but ours allowed us to like
(03:10:57 AM) Fat_Lard: pick to either hop to a timeline, become the singularity, join a "for eternity" paradise
(03:11:00 AM) Fat_Lard: or
(03:11:12 AM) Fat_Lard: take the blue pill and just wake up forgetting all this
(03:11:14 AM) Fat_Lard: and for you
(03:11:19 AM) Fat_Lard: that would be release
(03:11:22 AM) Fat_Lard: its just as good
(03:11:32 AM) Fat_Lard: we have reached the end of karma
(03:11:34 AM) Fat_Lard: if we want it
(03:11:47 AM) Fat_Lard: we were close in the buddha years I would guess
(03:11:52 AM) Fat_Lard: as we evolved
(03:11:58 AM) Fat_Lard: and finally
(03:12:05 AM) Fat_Lard: since we held ourselves together
(03:12:11 AM) Fat_Lard: and figured this out
(03:12:17 AM) Fat_Lard: we can do whatever we want
(03:12:33 AM) Fat_Lard: its the same concept as the good and bad thing
(03:12:40 AM) Fat_Lard: but with less subjectiveness
(03:12:47 AM) Yeshua: I can't float when I want to
(03:12:58 AM) Fat_Lard: like because we developed phones and the internet
(03:13:06 AM) Fat_Lard: and the idea that time travel was even possible
(03:13:24 AM) Fat_Lard: we plan our own futures now
(03:13:29 AM) Fat_Lard: we are going to gain omnipotenence
(03:13:34 AM) Fat_Lard: like the god you despise
(03:13:37 AM) Fat_Lard: how ironic