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mew
#1 Posted : 4/22/2012 1:47:23 AM

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after manskeing out the prefered harmalas
i bassified the solution and let sit, a mass formed and was decanted
after decanting more neutral water was added and the vessel contents alowed to settle
this was repeated each day for a week until the above solution was clear (unlike the dark liquid before diluting and decanting)

the particles are slighly suspended in water and will be evaporated to yield freebase peganine/vascinine and probably some extra "good" harmala alks,

im curious does this different isolated combination have any particular use or benefit
 

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#2 Posted : 4/22/2012 3:38:16 PM

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I did a similar thing and sent the freebased alkaloids from the manske 'waste water' off for testing. Preliminary results seem to indicate that the majority of the precipitate is harmalas, but we're still waiting on the mass spectrometry readings. I'm going to do a few mor cycles of manske'ing those 'waste' precipitates to see if any more harmalas will precipitate out.
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#3 Posted : 4/25/2012 9:17:35 PM

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i evaporated the questionable brown/reddish precipitates and it yielded a flaky brown powder, much darker than the fb harmalas the manske way ended up giving.

still untested
 
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#4 Posted : 4/25/2012 11:29:32 PM

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Ime, you have to do multiple a/b's for it to even begin approaching the consistency of the initial manske yields and even then the precipitate seems to have different properties.
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#5 Posted : 5/13/2012 5:17:45 PM

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Just performed a second manske on the alkaloids I precipitated out of the manske waste water...nothing precipitated. The 1300ml solution was heated and saturated with 130g salt and allowed to cool over night, nothing fell out of solution. I reduced the solution to 600ml and filtered out the excess salt, it is currently cooling.
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#6 Posted : 5/13/2012 5:41:54 PM

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Out of interest how much of the alks do you loose after you have performed the manske?
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