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oldProBackForAVisit
#1 Posted : 11/30/2011 2:39:50 PM
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I'll try and keep this as short as I can...

History: I am an experienced tripper who took a long term break, I had never experienced DMT before so after a few months of consideration I decided it was time to try and experience the breakthroughs I had read so much about.

The first time I was nervous and unsure exactly how to vaporize a drug like DMT. As soon as I started to feel anything I put the pipe down. Had a light trip, and glad I did because of what came next. The second time I extended the small 5 dollar pipe I bought with a pen to allow me to see the light/bulb position better, and to make the chamber bigger. Also this time I decided to cover the small rush hole on the top of the ping pong size bulb at the end to allow the vapour to collect. While flaming it there was no vapour being produced. I made sure to hold the lighter far enough away that it wouldn't touch the glass but make it hot and even. After a few second I decided to remove my finger and take was small amount of vapour had been produced. As soon as my finger was removed the vapour began bursting and billowing off the DMT pool. I took a long deep hit and held it in while I began flaming the bulb a second time. About 5 second later I knew this was going to get intenseShocked

Before I could exhale the pipe gain a slick, clear, liquid metallic sheen. Everything began to vibrate and pulsate with light energy. I tried to focus my mind on the second hit. I breathed out the first and began pulling on the pipe again. I am unsure how big the second hit was as I was pretty much already gone now. I distinctly remember telling my self "trust me dude, that good. Put the pipe down", and in that same motion I had little choice but to lay back and close my eyes. I don't remember the next two minutes(I recorded it for time reference, etc.) However, I do remember being awoken by the fact that I thought I was fading away. This set the precedent for the rest of the trip. I'd just like to point out now that even those this was a frightening trip I do not look at it as a bad trip; it is probably those most significant trip I have ever had and I don't regret a thing about it. When I "woke up" two minutes after exhaling the world was changed. It was the most intense visuals I have ever had. The walls and bed were surging with pulsating energy. I had no idea where I was. To be honest I had no idea what being somewhere meant. I had lost all concept of personal identity. I felt as though I was part of this elaborate system. Looking back at it I felt as though I were god. Not in a sense that I was almighty and powerful. It was more like, the world is a creation of my own mind, I no longer felt any separation between other people and objects. I began to panic slightly as I felt as though reality was fading. I got up and began wondering around my apartment trying to gain some understanding of anything. I could only remember enough to know I had smoked DMT and it felt as though doing so voided any ability for my god mind to keep this reality intact.

I remember wandering back and forth trying to grasp these concepts of pictures, chairs, and the people in my life. None of them seemed real, as if they were creations of my own mind that held me in this objective reality. It felt as though they were being erased. Like files in a computer being deleted by a virus. Very soon my mind began to slow down and drop back to reality a bit. I went to the washroom and drank some water out of my hand. I then walked back to my living room where I began to enjoy the incredibly intense visuals. I then went to my room and lay back in my bed where I slowly but surly drifted back into sanity. When I was back in my right mind I couldn't help but laugh and ask out loud(even though no one was there) "What the fuck?!"

This was frightening and beautiful all at the same time. I have had similar experiences on acid but this was different in that it felt more real. It was more intense and had a more convincing quality to it.

So, feedback! I want to break through badly. It is a spiritual experience that I would like achieve. However, I think I need to get a good second and maybe even a third hit, but by the time I exhaled the first one I could barely work the pipe any more. Any suggestions? I have thought about a bong, or even getting plastic tube and hooking it to the pipe to create a long chamber to get one massive hit in the beginning. Also has anyone had a similar experience? I completely forget the two minutes after exhaling and then felt as though I had crash my reality hard drive. Any methods of dealing with this? I have though about a eye shade to prevent wandering and interacting with this world. I hear they used them in the Strassman experiments. Any advice would be appreciated, I have one hit left and would like to make it count!

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NoBody
#2 Posted : 11/30/2011 4:09:27 PM
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A good friend of mine had this to say:

"in my experience, DMT shows you exactly what you need. That sounded like a good trip. If you wish to go further, remember that when vaporizin, it is not possible to overdose. Also, since no MAOI is being used, the duration should be prompt in our time, so do not fear taking as big a hit as possible and as many as possible. Just respect it. Your frame of mind is just as important if not more so than the substance. As for working the pipe, frame in your mind before hand exactly what you intend to do, and you will be allowed to do it.
Memory lapse is common so don't worry. It is not very controllable directly. I used an eye shade and felt it detracted...but then, my mind keeps my eyes open regardless what I want, so it didn't appreciate the shade and promptly removed it. Journey well friend."
 
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#3 Posted : 11/30/2011 6:17:06 PM

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Welcome to the Nexus, oldPro. Please take a moment to review our Attitude section.

It sounds like an intense experience, but without knowing what dosage you had, it's hard to give advice. If you actually experienced a blackout, it's probable that you had enough DMT to breakthrough, but went too far. The intensity of the comedown speaks to this possibility as well.

Building The Machine, or any of it's descendents will work much better than the pipe method you're going with now. Using a sandwich technique with a bong, or making infused leaf would also help.

That's all dependent upon knowing the weight and purity of the DMT of course, which you can only know by extracting yourself, and having an accurate scale.
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oldProBackForAVisit
#4 Posted : 11/30/2011 9:15:26 PM
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Thanks you for the advice, so you think it is possible I did too much? I have thought about doing a sandwich method with some pot but have heard the pot alters the effects. I can't get the exact dose unfortunately, unless it is possible to weight it out on a scale meant for weighing herbal.

I also watched DMT: The Spirit Molecule and remember Dr. Strassman saying that the breakthroughs happened mostly at higher doses. Is it possible I hit just under enough? As in, almost enough to have a break through but not enough to "put me under" and keep me from trying to only interact with objective reality?
 
 
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