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#1 Posted : 11/27/2011 1:43:51 PM

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Dear Nexus,

I feel as though I've never truly contributed before, but owe a great deal of feedback to reciprocate all the help and special attention I've been given with my dimethyl excursions. That being said I wish to contribute something solely unique to myself and a handful of individuals on the planet. I want to write a report that touches subjects psychonauts such as you, my peers, have never looked into because they don't necessarily concern your walk of life.

On to the trip report.

The night started out as simply as most others. I woke, and quietly entertained myself as well as paying some attention to my clients' email back-and-forths. I live with four roommates, all of which seemed to be in elevated spirits because of the Thanksgiving holiday and time spent their respective families. I felt as though it would be a pleasant evening to consume a pot cookie or two. Or four. The general atmosphere of the house was calming; this is in stark contrast to the normally emotionally-driven hormonal outbursts that normally occur with an all transsexual-household.
I spent most of my time leading up to the night's festivities oblivious that they would happen. I mostly passed time by listening to music while reading about drugs while I was high.
This calm quickly evolved into one of the most interesting nights of my life when my roommates' (yes two of the roommates'Pleased girlfriend arrived with her new girlfriend. Everyone in the household is poly amorous, and dating, love and companionship become essentially whatever the partie(s) involved wish it to be.
The girl who brought her new girlfriend to her exgirlfriends' house falls victim easily to the placebo effect. She always acts higher than she is, and brags of being able to handle any drug to any degree. At my suggestion this is where the dimethyl action came into play. I suggested she take one puff of freebase I had created. I wasn't deceptive, its not in my nature, but it is in my nature to be modest in terms of my own achievement and ability, I may have played down the potency of my product.

I should have asserted that this girl was a rape-victim several times over, as well as being the punching bag to many douchebags, and the escort of choice in our area. I assume someone in her position has a lot on her mental plate. Let the fun begin; she takes her first and only puff of the session. She becomes so incredibly dosed that she cannot comprehend her senses or anything in this plane of existence.
After re-acclimating and gaining her whit she told us of the trip she took to jail where she spent her time there with us. (I got arrested for prostitution with some friends recently, you know a low-profile Saturday evening, complete with television cameras and media attention) She said she was in prison for a week with us, and felt the inescapable torment of a confined holding cell. Her journey ended with her being kicked to the sidewalk.
She assured herself that she was presented her greatest fear, and it was her duty to figure out why. She reasoned that it was to come to the realization that if you are amongst caring friends or family there is nothing to fear.

The night got interesting when we decided to have the largest orgy I have ever personally participated in. Interesting turn, right? I thought so to. My girlfriend and I switched partners with the two genetic girls that had come over to spend the night. And there was a french maid without a partner who worked as a free agent in pleasuring herself however she saw fit.
The other visitor, the new girlfriend had never been with a trans girl before. We decided she should probably have sex with the first three she ever met in real life.
We all finished our sexual experience, everyone in even higher spirits because of all the sensual sisterly love making.
I took this intermission as my opportunity to dose all parties involved. I first dosed myself a hefty bowl, one deep lungful that left me in an erotic mood. I shut my eyes and was greeted by a swirling gyration of geometric complexity. Imagine what Neo sees in the third matrix movie when he can see agent smith while having been blinded. Instead of numbers and random Japanese lettering, however, what I saw was composed of orange and red geometric patterns. I saw an orgy, I witnessed in my left-hand field of vision entities made up of these coalescing patterns. They were female, and as far as I could tell where wearing futuristic clothing, akin to something in kingdom hearts. They were also not wearing clothing. The room this took place in was a hallway of similar patterns, with another entity seductively beckoning the first two female ones. These quickly faded to blobs jellyfishing around the room, I checked to see if my eyes were open, they weren’t. I opened them and was greeted by the evenings first dimethyl victim (the girl who had previously partaken earlier in the night, the girl I had partnered with for the night). I explained my trip to her, and she went into the void a second time. With each journey she gained momentum, enlightenment and a sense of well-being, a contempt with her life.

During the ruckus of the orgy, a roommate had left the house in a depressed mood because she thought she had been excluded from both the psychedelic and sensual fun. This was not the case, she simply misinterpreted it as such. Needless to say, she felt unhappy because her girlfriend had sex with their ex girlfriend without her, and that we had all blasted off without inviting her. I told her girlfriend to offer her both the bowl of a large dose as well as her company while she did it. She agreed.

But she had never smoked dmt before. She figured she could give it a go. As a side note her schizophrenia causes marijuana to give her dmt like visuals; I was curious what dmt would do. She went from depressed to crying tears of joy and uncontrollably laughing for a solid ten minutes. She thanked me for my words of wisdom and the gift of interstellar travel. She briefly described beautiful colors and peculiar shapes but was not in a mind state that facilitates vocal descriptive elaboration.

I figure since I've popped everyone's dimethyl cherry this far, why stop. I turned my shamanic eyes towards the most inexperience psychedelic user. I suggested a personal one on one session with just her and her girlfriend, this turned out to be a good idea. Her inability to smoke carcinogens lead to nausea resulting in vomit, but nevertheless the spice hit her in the face and she lost the ability to process anything for several moments. She, too, had demons she had not yet comes to terms with. Her issues are more personal, so I wont go into detail, but she had to come to grips with judgment, both societal and from her parents. I guided her, asking her questions that would eventually lead me to understanding the root of her problems. She needed to vocalize horrors to the two of us to be able to let go of deep seated emotions. She eventually turned to smiles after having done so.

Instead of going to bed at this point, like everyone else, I decided to write and post this trip report. I feel like a gender shaman, and as soon as everyone wakes up, the fun will resume as I continue dosing people and having casual sex with my roommates and friends.
 

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#2 Posted : 11/27/2011 2:18:30 PM
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Laughing

PS. I don't think offering DMT to people makes one a shaman, at all. Shaman is a healer essentially with knowledge of the beyond, not through just handing out the pipe.
 
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#3 Posted : 11/27/2011 3:16:51 PM

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jessi.kirin wrote:
But she had never smoked dmt before. She figured she could give it a go. As a side note her schizophrenia causes marijuana to give her dmt like visuals; I was curious what dmt would do. I figure since I've popped everyone's dimethyl cherry this far, why stop.



jessi.kirin

You are clearly 'a woman of the world' and the way you choose to spend your spare time is entirely your business but the quote from your post that Ive highlighted I find troubling.Your friend is schizophrenic, gets unusually profound effects from marijuana and you give her DMT without giving her an idea of what this stuff is all about.Your curiosity as to what it would do I find somewhat self-indulgent, and your attitude of being 'she who will pop DMT cherries' ,without restraint, as being rather irresponsible.

Please read the Attitude Section and try to take on board what it says before contributing further here.
I am paranoid of my brain. It thinks all the time, even when I'm asleep. My thoughts assail me. Murderous lechers they are. Thought is the assassin of thought. Like a man stabbing himself with one hand while the other hand tries to stop the blade. Like an explosion that destroys the detonator. I am paranoid of my brain. It makes me unsettled and ill at ease. Makes me chase my tail, freezes my eyes and shuts me down. Watches me. Eats my head. It destroys me.

 
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#4 Posted : 11/27/2011 4:42:33 PM
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^+1 What CC said
 
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#5 Posted : 11/27/2011 6:00:10 PM

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Please edit your post to include some sort of reflection as to why you chose to give DMT to people in such a reckless way..what they might have gotten out of it and what you are getting out of DMT or how it is helping you reflect on your life.. This post talks alot about people sort of just using DMT in a casual way that is potentially harmful to the people you are giving it to because number 1, you are definaitly no shaman and I can bet you have no idea what to do for these people if they loose it..concidering the background you provided in reguards to some of these people. It is just a heartless way to introduce people. Please add some personal reflection to this post to make it of some value or I will either lock this thread or remove it.

I dont mean to sound harsh but there is not way for me to not really come off this way here.
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#6 Posted : 11/27/2011 7:55:56 PM

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tele wrote:
Laughing

PS. I don't think offering DMT to people makes one a shaman, at all. Shaman is a healer essentially with knowledge of the beyond, not through just handing out the pipe.


i referred to myself as a shaman because after each person partook, i spent quiet time alone with them probing their mind, and asking them why they thought the experienced what they did. I also went into asking them what they felt this meant, and asked them how they felt they should go about handling the emotions that had revisited. Again, as i mentioned in the body of the post, some peoples' experiences were too personal to share in depth; but that isn't to say I didn't speak in depth with them in person
 
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#7 Posted : 11/27/2011 8:02:31 PM

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corpus callosum wrote:
jessi.kirin wrote:
But she had never smoked dmt before. She figured she could give it a go. As a side note her schizophrenia causes marijuana to give her dmt like visuals; I was curious what dmt would do. I figure since I've popped everyone's dimethyl cherry this far, why stop.



jessi.kirin

You are clearly 'a woman of the world' and the way you choose to spend your spare time is entirely your business but the quote from your post that Ive highlighted I find troubling.Your friend is schizophrenic, gets unusually profound effects from marijuana and you give her DMT without giving her an idea of what this stuff is all about.Your curiosity as to what it would do I find somewhat self-indulgent, and your attitude of being 'she who will pop DMT cherries' ,without restraint, as being rather irresponsible.

Please read the Attitude Section and try to take on board what it says before contributing further here.


I said she had never smoked it before. I did not say she was unaware of the effects. She had done in depth reading on this site prior to smoking, as per my suggestion. As always with her psychedelic experiences, she can only rely so much on information available on the internet because it does not directly apply to her own mental set-up. We had discussed the possible effects beforehand, and had taken the proper precautions before she toked. She had nothing deeply insightful to share, so I feel bad in that sense. For her it was more happy geometric visuals that profound realization. But as a sidenote; i would like to get her to write a "trip report" after she smokes weed, she speaks of seeing the fabric of the cosmose and the seamwork of reality.
 
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#8 Posted : 11/27/2011 8:14:07 PM

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jamie wrote:
Please edit your post to include some sort of reflection as to why you chose to give DMT to people in such a reckless way..what they might have gotten out of it and what you are getting out of DMT or how it is helping you reflect on your life.. This post talks alot about people sort of just using DMT in a casual way that is potentially harmful to the people you are giving it to because number 1, you are definaitly no shaman and I can bet you have no idea what to do for these people if they loose it..concidering the background you provided in reguards to some of these people. It is just a heartless way to introduce people. Please add some personal reflection to this post to make it of some value or I will either lock this thread or remove it.

I dont mean to sound harsh but there is not way for me to not really come off this way here.


I tried as much as I could to provide a proper set and setting for everyone, and i paid special attention to their own comfort. I have experienced every emotion with these people that they could possibly display. I live with the majority of them, and the one who visited had lived with us prior for several months. I know of their psychedelic history, and have handled meltdowns of the sober variety several, several times. I have personally had to deal with their manic episodes.

"I can bet you have no idea what to do for these people if they loose it"

I have had to personally chase down one of them, sober, around my neighborhood as her schizophrenic episode triggered a flight reaction. I have also had to deal with episodes contained in close quarters where she had fight triggers.

All of these individuals, before deciding to partake, had seem me indulge my own dimethyl palette several, if not several dozen times. It was not a mystery drug I pulled out of my magical medicine cabinet, it is a household commodity that is freely available to anyone at anytime.
The only person unaware of the medicine's existence was the last to go, and she had done so of her own accord after she thought she had an understanding of the possible outcomes.
 
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#9 Posted : 11/27/2011 8:16:21 PM

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I would also like to point out that there was one person in the evening's activities that did not partake. I simply did not mention this because I felt it would detract. I didn't feel the need to mention the experience of someone who had not partaken in any psychedelia.
I also chose not to include a report of someone who had partaken. Nothing bad happened, it was simply uneventful, as she had smoked DMT several time with me before, and she did her normal breathing and yoga routine which she is so fond of. She also didn't experience anything aside from light visuals and euphoria.
 
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#10 Posted : 11/27/2011 8:38:16 PM

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please take note that I will skillfully edit the body of my posts to reflect the responses I've given thus far. As I havent slept since this all went down, I will do so at a later time. I need coffee and sex.
 
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^^Thanks for the clarifications ,jessi.kirin, and Welcome aboardSmile


As you know, DMT is some powerful substance, and needs treating with due care and respect, and can be more destructive than constructive for some users.

Be well, wise and welcome to the NexusVery happy !



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thank you jessi for adressing the concerns I brought up. You must understand that alot of people read these forums and we have to be careful about how we come off sounding. DMT is not something to be taken lightly to say the least and so we dont want people who are new to DMT and psychedelics in general to come here and then get the wrong idea based on what they read.

I hope you were not offended with my origional post..it was not intended that way. Welcome to the nexus.
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jessi.kirin wrote:
tele wrote:
Laughing

PS. I don't think offering DMT to people makes one a shaman, at all. Shaman is a healer essentially with knowledge of the beyond, not through just handing out the pipe.


i referred to myself as a shaman because after each person partook, i spent quiet time alone with them probing their mind, and asking them why they thought the experienced what they did. I also went into asking them what they felt this meant, and asked them how they felt they should go about handling the emotions that had revisited. Again, as i mentioned in the body of the post, some peoples' experiences were too personal to share in depth; but that isn't to say I didn't speak in depth with them in person


You obviously don't know what shaman means.
That doesn't make one a shaman and I think one should call oneself a shaman before others(many) do it first, it's a position not taken lightly. Usually a healer of the deepest nature. Not just a person who offers someone DMT and then asks how they feel about it.
 
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tele wrote:
jessi.kirin wrote:
tele wrote:
Laughing

PS. I don't think offering DMT to people makes one a shaman, at all. Shaman is a healer essentially with knowledge of the beyond, not through just handing out the pipe.


i referred to myself as a shaman because after each person partook, i spent quiet time alone with them probing their mind, and asking them why they thought the experienced what they did. I also went into asking them what they felt this meant, and asked them how they felt they should go about handling the emotions that had revisited. Again, as i mentioned in the body of the post, some peoples' experiences were too personal to share in depth; but that isn't to say I didn't speak in depth with them in person


You obviously don't know what shaman means.
That doesn't make one a shaman and I think one should call oneself a shaman before others(many) do it first, it's a position not taken lightly. Usually a healer of the deepest nature. Not just a person who offers someone DMT and then asks how they feel about it.


Just sounds like cultural differences to me. I believe a Shaman to be the highest authority on psychedelic/psychological/medicinal knowledge within a certain society. In many cultures, those believed by their tribes to be shaman were actually con-men, but the position of which they convinced others earned them that title.
 
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You obviously don't know what shaman means.

I don't think any of us here should claim to 'know' what a shaman means. I doubt Jessi is claiming to have lived in the jungle for 20 years studying under Don Jose - but if she (or others) wish to use the term loosely to describe what they're doing I don't see any issue - and definately no justification for other members of the forum to go on attack and say, "How dare you - you don't know what a shaman is BUT I DO!"

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tele wrote:
jessi.kirin wrote:
tele wrote:
Laughing

PS. I don't think offering DMT to people makes one a shaman, at all. Shaman is a healer essentially with knowledge of the beyond, not through just handing out the pipe.


i referred to myself as a shaman because after each person partook, i spent quiet time alone with them probing their mind, and asking them why they thought the experienced what they did. I also went into asking them what they felt this meant, and asked them how they felt they should go about handling the emotions that had revisited. Again, as i mentioned in the body of the post, some peoples' experiences were too personal to share in depth; but that isn't to say I didn't speak in depth with them in person


You obviously don't know what shaman means.
That doesn't make one a shaman and I think one should call oneself a shaman before others(many) do it first, it's a position not taken lightly. Usually a healer of the deepest nature. Not just a person who offers someone DMT and then asks how they feel about it.


i didnt mean it in the sense that i truly believe i am a qualified shaman. i full-well know this. i made it the title because my roommate called me a gender shaman. And in that sense, I agree. But more in the comical and endearing sense rather than the truly holistic context.
 
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sure then... I just have always felt the "state of the shaman" so to speak is something very deep.
 
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a1pha wrote:
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You obviously don't know what shaman means.

I don't think any of us here should claim to 'know' what a shaman is or is not. I doubt Jessi is claiming to have lived in the jungle for 20 years studying under Don Jose - but if she (or others) wish to use this term loosely to describe what they're doing I don't see any issue - and definately no justification for other members of the forum to go on attack and say, "How dare you - you don't know what a shaman is BUT I DO!"

Rolling eyes


this. i meant it in this sense. and i thought it would make an interesting title. notice it says gender shaman; i didnt reiterate this a million times throughout the report, each time using shaman as the condensed version of my original concept.
 
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jamie wrote:
thank you jessi for adressing the concerns I brought up. You must understand that alot of people read these forums and we have to be careful about how we come off sounding. DMT is not something to be taken lightly to say the least and so we dont want people who are new to DMT and psychedelics in general to come here and then get the wrong idea based on what they read.

I hope you were not offended with my origional post..it was not intended that way. Welcome to the nexus.


I was not offended what-so-ever, and i would much rather have my character and writing flaws pointed out so that I can learn to evolve.

To reiterate, i will most certainly take down this post if people believe it truly doesn't belong.
My intentions were to share a perspective that I don't believe previously existed on here.
If anyone is interested I can share my personal experience of finding myself and my identity through my first dimethyl experience.
 
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jessi.kirin wrote:
My intentions were to share a perspective that I don't believe previously existed on here.

jessi -

I think in just a few posts you've proven to have an articulate and unique voice. My path sometimes crosses the transgender community and many here, while professing open-mindedness, might be a bit closed in this regard. I know all too well the dangers you face in your community (drugs, sex, violence, etc) and respect where you're coming from. It's no easy life.

Just keep in mind many people here hold DMT in high regard. We don't take it as a casual/recreational substance. It's almost a religion to us and your initial post made it sound akin to some party drug instead of a sacred thing.

That said, I am of the mind that the Universe enjoys an orgy just as much as a monk in full lotus. The Universe is a grand mystical thing and unless you're causing harm to your friends and/or this community I say right on. If you receive benefit from sharing DMT with some close friends after sex - well - then - who the *(&^ am I to judge that?

Hope you don't remove the post and stick around.
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