Hey, I'm really bad with saying stuff about myself (which I guess can be a good thing in the grand scheme of things) so I'm not entirely sure what to write, so I'll just blurt out what comes to me haha.

I'm currently a first-year Linguistics student in London. Not really a fan of being in education or of any kind of oppressive structure in life, but it's kind of a necessary evil I guess ;p I eventually want to live the rest of my life travelling around the world speaking on Language and its effects on culture and consciousness, learning and sharing the entire time. I'm not really into a lot of stuff - I really like good manga, getting back into my oldskool RPGs, and I love getting new music from different people who know the ins and outs of really appreciable subgenres, especially minimal and chiiiiiiiill music (: My main thing is to basically be around good vibes, chillin with my friends and meeting and talking to people who are enthusiastic to share their ideas, 'little' or 'big'; the diversity of Mind is perhaps one of my biggest interests.

I've been a lot more spiritually-inclined recently due to a number of mishaps that've occured the last year or two. I felt my spirit kept getting challenged and I'm currently crawling out of a place of apathy and misguidance on the part of my somewhat corrupted rationality. Thus, I've been following my intuition with what I do, what I eat and generally how I go about my life, and to be honest, despite being in the very very very early stages, it seems to be yieling up and down, but promisingly positive results (: I don't disobey my irrational actions atm, whether it be walking a certain way around town, whether I wear a hat a certain way in a certain place or even with whom I feel or act upon magnetism. I've been trying out a lot of meditation recently, whether it be sitting in my room and shutting off my mind or even sitting there just playing simple chords on my guitar intuitively.

With this, I've been thinking about trying my own DMT extraction and perhaps making extraction a project in my life, at least for the time being. I've tried (smoked) DMT a number of times before; my close friend has been extracting it for a while and would often share it with me, and I often doubted it's spiritual faculties. At the time however, I didn't fully understand the meaning of spirit, if at all there ever was one. I had labelled everything I came accross and never entertained the idea of Namelessness, Formlessness, Is, Are, Am, . The last few months in particular I've felt a change or some kind of shift, a sense that something in me has changed, is changing, or has been changing all along and my reason and my ego have been silencing my inuition of it. I feel a readiness to become, or unbecome, or more importantly, to be and be at peace.

When I first tried DMT, it was melted onto changa - I was in a bit of a shock. I didn't breakthrough as much as I have done by this time, but it was the first psychedelic experience I'd ever had (I hadn't and still haven't tried any other entheogens or potent psychedelics... yet!). The friend who shared it with me had warned me of its potency but I definitely wasn't expecting something like that. Open-eyed, the walls asserted their existence and the paper cranes on the ceiling wanted to play, nothing I wasn't expecting. But after my fourth inhalation, the room turned into a series of cloggs that made up a room that was breaking through, and the cloggs kind of told me to prepare myself. Then I saw a Wizard Sage bow before me and I fell through a portal into his hat. Looking back with my current mentality, what happened next is why I (and I'm sure many or all of you agree at least to an extent) believe DMT and other hallucinogens give and ARE direct insight into our spirits and Spirit. In brief, I became part of the tunnel and watched as this giant worm-like creature made up of faces of indescribable entities morphed according to my thoughts (I'm not sure how its shape and my thoughts interlinked, but they did). I began asking questions, and a new tunnel would appear. I then became anxious however and started asking more, and doubting the DMT in general. My mind then showed me a picture of an Ape fading away which I assumed to mean something like 'You are young and inexperienced, we will meet again another time when you have grown'. I then apologised and accepting it's leave. At first I didn't think there was a spiritual aspect to DMT, it just reacts to my thoughts and feelings. But now I've come to realise that our spirits are our very internal being, our psyche, our unconscious, everything that makes us up. I'm now intregued to meditate with DMT, and to see how much more I can learn about my spirit and possibly Spirit. My last DMT experience was a number of months ago now, and I feel I've grown in many respects since then.

Not sure if this is classed a really bad trip report, but I thought I'd throw in a summary of my first DMT experience on here! ;p Anyway, like I say, I'm pretty bad at describing myself, but hopefully I'll be posting stuff quite soon and you'll get to know bits about me that way! Cheers for reading, and I'll probably chat to you soon! Love and bananas, keep kosy! X

Hi Mora, nice to meet you welcome to the forums.

Don't feel bad that you got this impression, the same thing has happened to me before. One time while I was tripping, I came in contact with these four celestial beings and my guide (whom I call Teo). They were discussing amoungst themselves if I was 'ready to come with them' to which my guide informed them that I was not. This was heartbreaking as I had to watch them leave and I was escorted back into normal reality with the distinct impression downloaded from Teo that amounted to 'hey just relax, these are your first steps... you're baby steps'


We must learn how to walk before we can run right?

Hey Tek, thanks for the reply!

Man that is so cool you have a guide for your trips! (: good name too. Yeah it was pretty disappointing and I instinctively showed anger and frustration when I was shown the ape. I felt the need to calm down afterwards though, and that's when I apologised for my hostility. My other DMT trips had no other signs of me being too inexperienced for the trip though, I've communitated with entities who felt completely neutral toward me. They weren't persay directly communicating with me, more just 'checking me out' and letting me view their physical structure. However, they haven't shown me anything near the level of the Celestial beings you described, so I guess it was just keeping at a level I could peacefuly observe until I was ready for a boost!

Thanks for that though man, it's good to know I'm not of a rare minority who is for some reason or another not ready for spiritual exploration

The trip I described above was the most profound I've had to date. Since that experience, I have had trips where I've conversed with beings that had absolutely no idea what being human was about. Actually, the last time I journeyed I encountered two beings that were just 'passing through' as they said. We conversed a bit, one of the two of them seemed like 'she' (it seemed feminine at the time) was anxious to just get to wherever they were going, but the other one took an interest in me and started to communicate. The conversation went like:

Female entity: Look he's just a baby, let's just GO!
Other entity: But wait he's trying to talk to us, that counts for something doesn't it?

The way they conversed with me made it very apparent that I was a peculiarity to them just as much as they were to me, such as when I'd say I was shocked to have encountered them they responded that it was very, very rare for 'my kind' (which I take to mean human but it could have been personality type) to be able to communicate with them like I was. Also, in the midst of our conversation there were things I'd ask, things about time and other Earth concepts and there would be a pause and I felt very clearly them picking through my memories to understand the terms I was using.

Me (to myself): So my mind is like a medium then...
Other entity: Medium? (pauses, indescribable feeling of having my head picked through) Yeah! I guess you could say that! The mindscape is a medium we travel in! You can do it too it's quite easy you know?

So it was like the being needed a lexicon to understand my experience, and that lexicon happens to be my human memory bank.

Teo and the other guardians (no idea why I refer to them as guardians, just feels right typing it) are a different breed, definately much more advanced then the travelers I just recently met. The feeling I get from the higher celestial beings is of unconditional, indescribable love so much so that it's overwhelming. These other two beings though, the female entity was standoffish, mostly just irritated that 'the baby ruined her day', although I didn't feel threatened or intimidated by 'her' (I mostly ignored her presence and focused on the more curious entity). The other entity was highly inquisitive, and though I didn't feel the feeling of unconditional love from this one, I definately felt a kinship in our shared curiosity of each other.

So I guess the purpose of that long-winded post was to basically say I think the entities have different levels. If I'm to believe what the irritated female said, that I'm just a baby (which oddly is sort of what Teo alluded to), then the way she talked down at me implies she is higher up the pecking order, and yet the difference between these two and the guardians is about as different as an ant to a jumbo jet in presence felt.

Curiouser and curiouser

Wow man, I've never had anything like that! The closest I had to being sure there were solid entities communicating with me was when I was floating above a village where a man kept pointing at me and talking about me with his friends. But even then, it was just outlines and I doubted myself if that's what really happened or not. You've got me excited man haha, I look forward to getting to a level where I can communicate with beings like that! Using the mind like that, essentially telepathy, is something we all need to accomplish if we're to strengthen our communication, it's amazing how things can just be translated like that!

I should be starting my first extraction within the next couple of weeks (exploring the texts on here atm, trying to weigh up the simpleness:yield factor). After I do I should be writing up a few trip reports and giving my own and asking for others' thoughts on it. Would be cool to see you around and hear more about your journeys man (: I probably won't be spending much more time on here 'til I do more research and begun extracting, but until I feel ready, I wish you all the best on your travels man, may Teo keep you well and curious

..hey welcome Mora,
you wrote
..some of the biggest breakthrough experiences, for which i am (with hindsight) eternally grateful, have involved being scolded by ancient shamans or wizards,
taken apart and hassled by much larger entities, having involuntary psychic surgery by instectoids, or being completely destroyed (dying) by spirit..
i think we learn or are shown what we each need to be, so i wouldn't see it as a 'bad trip' by any means..
thanks for your intro.

welcome Mora, the path begins

My pleasure man (: What I meant by that though (my fault for being unclear) was [[bad] [trip report]] not [[bad trip] report], sorry! ;p Yeah I've heard stories of being having really bad trips, some even getting sexually abused by divine creatures and ending up suffering from mental problems. Makes me weary of the head place I should be in when I experiment with DMT. Or do you think it can happen at random.


Also, thankyou stalepixel, I'll embrace the path with all my soul