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caliwa
#1 Posted : 8/23/2011 5:23:47 PM

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Salvinorin A combust at very high temperatures. its recommended to smoke salvia burning it with a torch lighter. I dont see how salvia can be effectively vaporized and get the same intensity out of the same ammount of vaporized salvia against combusted salvia, but we got a lot of geniouses here in the forum. is there a good technique to evap salvia?
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#2 Posted : 8/23/2011 5:44:46 PM

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the torch lighter idea is a myth. Anyone who says otherwise is probabily just subject to self suggestion. I have compared matches to torch lighters to see if there was a difference and there was none. A match worked just as well and as any lighter as long as the match does not go out before you get a full hit. I just use a normal lighter if I smoke salvia.

I am not sure about a vaporizor. I never tried that.
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#3 Posted : 8/23/2011 5:53:27 PM

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My buddy reported to me the other day he had success using an electric vaporizer at the highest temperature setting on a few leaves. I'll try to get some moar info on exact temperature and whatnot and get back to ya with that, but it does appear it is in fact possible.
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#4 Posted : 8/23/2011 5:56:46 PM

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well, having clarified the myth of the torch lighter, enhances the possibility of an electric vap to work, I have an old easy vap, im going to try some and let you know too guys.
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#5 Posted : 8/23/2011 6:15:42 PM

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He said he is not sure of the exact temp. He used a silver surfer vaporizer at max temp, the leaves did not combust and no smoke/vapor was released upon exhaling. He only used a couple of leaves so effects were not very strong but were definitely present.
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#6 Posted : 8/23/2011 6:25:48 PM

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i will definetly use max temp on my vap, i'll let you know..
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#7 Posted : 8/24/2011 8:35:32 AM

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Regarding the plant material :

- There is an interesting article on Erowid on that topic : http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.php?ID=3139
- A guy on shroomery succeed to get some psychoactive effect with an heatgun and a "Volcano valve set" : http://www.shroomery.org...wflat.php/Number/5845605

Regarding the extracted salvinorin :

- A research team has managed to perform a vaporisation :

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Drug preparation and delivery device

Salvinorin A was isolated from S. divinorum leaves and shown to be 99.5% pure by HPLC.

Because weighing the very small doses of salvinorin A required for this study is difficult, a larger quantity was weighed on an analytical balance and then dissolved in a measured volume of HPLC grade acetone. After filtering through a sterilized, acetone-approved 0.2 µm filter (Millex-LG Filter Unit, Millipore Corporation, Billerica, MA), 1 ml of solution was placed into a 5 ml round bottom chemistry flask and allowed to evaporate, leaving the dose of salvinorin A as a residue on the interior surface of the flask.

Before the session, the flask was attached to the bottom of a chemistry vacuum adapter by ground glass tapered joint and secured by a metal Keck clip. A vinyl tube (23 cm long, 6.35 mm inside diameter) was connected to the vacuum line of the adapter for inhalation. The tubing was replaced between participants but was not replaced for different sessions for the same participant. The resulting “pipe” was held stable by a ring stand clamp during administration, and the tube extended through a hole in a room divider toward the participant’s sitting area.

Drug administration

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For each session the round-bottom flask was heated from underneath with a butane microtorch with approximate flame temperature of 1700 ◦ C (model ST200T, Bernzomatic, Huntersville, NC). Although the boiling point and combustion temperature of salvinorin A have not been empirically determined, the flame temperature was assumed to be sufficient to heat the salvinorin A on the interior of the flask to its boiling point during the decreased air pressure created by inhalation, without substantial combustion of salvinorin A.

The microtorch was adjusted so that the flame was approximately 1.5 cm in length, and the tip of the flame was held in contact with the round-bottom flask. Using these procedures, inhalation of unvolatilized drug was unlikely because the salvinorin A residue left upon evaporation of acetone appeared strongly attached to the interior of the flask, and in tests with various rates of mechanical airflow (simulated inhalation) without heat, salvinorin A was observed to remain undisturbed. Tests with mechanical airflow and the application of the microtorch showed the method to result in the volatilization of salvinorin A with little scorching (small black marks presumably resulting from combustion).

Seated in a comfortable reclining lounger, the participant inhaled slowly for 40 s while the flask was heated, followed by a verbally cued exhale.

 
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#8 Posted : 8/24/2011 4:31:28 PM

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so its a mix between conduction and convection... im going to get my mind on this. maybe its time for. SALVIA MACHINE
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#9 Posted : 8/24/2011 7:44:57 PM

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I have vaporisd isolated salvinorin A in ligth bulb "vaporiser" with success, but I found the effect milder than smoking them in my pipe...
I dunno if the crystal lost potency dur to sunlight exposition or what, but it was effective just not as effective as a weight standardised extract in a bong. Or maybe that was the lightbulb porblem as the heat dissolved crystals were running out.
More research need to be done.
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#10 Posted : 8/25/2011 8:01:12 AM

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rOm wrote:
I have vaporisd isolated salvinorin A in ligth bulb "vaporiser" with success

What was your technique to measure accurately the µg range dose ? Liquid measurement technique ?
 
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#11 Posted : 8/25/2011 3:11:07 PM

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Yes explorateur, I had the salvinorin A crystals in suspension in ethanol, 1mg/ml so this is easy to dose, plus I wasn't picky for 100mics more or less.
I only have a 0.001 scale so yes for more precision liquid measurement is best if one doesn't have access to analytical balance.
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