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SHYBZY
#2001 Posted : 8/12/2021 10:31:30 PM
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Okey sounds like you have your heart set on publicising these vulnerable trees. Personally I feel it is short-sighted saying 'well the information has already been put out there, so there is no harm in putting the information even FURTHER out there'. Trying to mend the stable door after a horse has bolted makes sense if there are still some left in the paddock, no?

Also I am aware that the person who discovered the activity of one of these species made a deliberate effort to not reveal the identity of the tree due to its rarity and slow growing nature. Yes it is all well and good to promote the taking of phyllodes rather than bark. But if you have seen this tree in the wild you would know the phyllodes are too high to access without serious climbing gear. "Oh snap I've just driven all this way from brizvagus and look how high those branches are! Can't go back empty handed, oh well a little bit of bark won't hurt aye"

As far as I can ascertain this thread is the only place it's identity and content has been made obvious. Google it's name followed by DMT see what you get.

I know the other species has been published in Voogelbreinder. But where do you think the majority of amateur wanna-be harvester is likely to be getting their hitlist from, a short-print-run 100 dollar ethnobotany reference? or a free public web forum?

Yes, extracts from rare plants have been distributed as simply DMT. And also, these rare extracts have also been marketed as "super-rare special kuta dmt" and people have marked-up the value of this product considerably. It's rarity makes it MORE SOUGHT AFTER in some "stamp collector" circles!

As for your "consultation" of the trees involved, that really is a typical justification for irresponsible or self-serving behavior in this scene. Be it financial or ego-fluffing. And really, if you have "consulted" these Vulnerable trees, then you have either directly or indirectly hastened their demise. Fact is, taking *any* biomass weakens the tree. Taking branches for phyllodes removes fresh growth which is where flowering and seed-set occurs, reducing reproductive potential and facilitating entry of pathogens.

I really do urge you to give some more consideration regarding this matter.

 

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#2002 Posted : 8/12/2021 10:42:26 PM
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I believe education is the key. There are always going to be tools out there with no scruples who dont care what they extract from. But a little education from someone like Nen could make people think twice. I know I did.Thumbs up
 
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#2003 Posted : 9/4/2021 1:58:46 PM

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I have been planning to make this post for quiet some time now. On the wiki page its claimed that the information that acacia tortilis containing DMT was an erroneous reporting by trout. Apparently this acacias does indeed contain DMT!

This research paper has confirmed that the leaves of acacia tortilis from Saudi Arabia near mekka has got DMT proved with TLC.

Another interesting aspect of this research paper is that the aqueous extract of the leaves has anti anxiety and sedative effect on mice and they believe this to be relating to the leaves DMT content. Which kind of confuses me since I never considered DMT having anti anxiety properties when ingested by mice.. are mice not capable of breaking down DMT in their gut as we humans can? Or could it be that there are other constituants in the leaves making this aquous extract active?.

Anyways here is the TLC result pic from the research paper. The DMT stain does seem faint compared to the standard stain.. I don't think TLC can reliably tell the concentration of a certain alkaloid in a plant? I leave this to the more experienced and knowledgeable members here to figure that out.
 
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#2004 Posted : 9/4/2021 2:09:36 PM

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While I don't have access to the same acacia tortilis in this research paper there's plenty of Acacia tortilis subsp. raddiana where am from although a few hours away from me. Perhaps I could find a few nearby if I dig up enough and test this out.
 
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#2005 Posted : 3/18/2022 9:44:45 AM
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Hello! Can you please tell me which acacia can be used in Thailand for DMT production?
 
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#2006 Posted : 3/18/2022 9:46:52 PM

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Hello! Can you please tell me which acacia can be used in Thailand for DMT production?

Hello, I can't specifically tell you much but have you tried searching for information on trees found in Thailand? You could see which Acacia species grow in Thailand and then cross-check them with lists of known active acacias. Maybe you will find that Acacia confusa grows nearby. Be sure to let us know what you find out.

Please remember, if you succeed in finding an active specimen avoid harming the tree and only harvest in a sustainable way.

There may be some other active species of plants in your part of the world such as Desmodium pulchellum and desmodium gyrans, IIRC. Familiarise yourself with your local botany as much as you can, it's a useful thing to know.

What attracted you to DMT anyhow?


[EDIT for posterity: this was my post #6561, which is 3^8 Smile ]




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#2007 Posted : 3/19/2022 8:47:58 AM
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downwardsfromzero wrote:
Salbvatrucha wrote:
Hello! Can you please tell me which acacia can be used in Thailand for DMT production?

Hello, I can't specifically tell you much but have you tried searching for information on trees found in Thailand? You could
What attracted you to DMT anyhow?


[EDIT for posterity: this was my post #6561, which is 3^8 Smile ]


Thank you very much for the information about desmodium gyrans, it seems to be here and I will try to get DMT out of it. But there is very little content! Leaves (0.004% in dry leaf: 82 mg per 2 kg). I have not tried DMT yet, I have only heard a lot about it. As soon as I find it in plants, I'll try it 😅
 
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#2008 Posted : 3/20/2022 6:21:47 AM

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You might find acacia confusa in Thailand. It does grow in south east Asia.
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#2009 Posted : 3/20/2022 7:30:47 AM
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You might find acacia confusa in Thailand. It does grow in south east Asia.


which is better to use: leaves, bark or root? And how many percent DMT?
 
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#2010 Posted : 3/20/2022 9:24:03 AM

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Salbvatrucha wrote:

which is better to use: leaves, bark or root? And how many percent DMT?



https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Acacia_confusa
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#2011 Posted : 7/14/2022 3:04:25 PM
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Anyone here from tasmania? I need help
 
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#2012 Posted : 7/16/2022 2:39:39 PM

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What do you need help with?

If it's acacia related, might as well just post here, no?
 
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#2013 Posted : 9/18/2022 1:42:21 AM
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Is it worth to perform extraction of the yellow flowers? I have some samples that may be A. obtusifolia I have phyllodes and stems but can't find anything on the flowers.
 
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#2014 Posted : 9/25/2022 5:56:34 PM

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Is it worth to perform extraction of the yellow flowers? I have some samples that may be A. obtusifolia I have phyllodes and stems but can't find anything on the flowers.



I remember some time ago reading a post in this thread from someone who had sampled an extract from floribunda flowers . Its probably early on in this thread

not sure with obtuse.. considering its been found by some to have lower or non existent yield during flowering its likely that they won't. But if you have already harvested some then its worth the experiment i think. The twigs and phyllodes are usually pretty reliable with active trees ..

On that note.. I'm still skeptical when people say that the phyllodes of confusa aren't active. If anyone can link me to more info on that I'd be interested to have a read as I haven't frequented the forums in quite a while so I'm sure a lot has happened in that time!

Hope everyone is doing well! Wattle season is in full throttle where I live.. beautiful fragrances outside
 
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