Hi all, peace&love etc

SWIM Recently extracted the hoard of a buildup of salvia leaves, which have been collecting on his windowsill in several jars and other containers; and used naptha to extract them all into the bottom of a glass tumbler.

Having made 15x extract before, it was fairly easy tho he hadn't tried naptha before - always acetone. Naptha took a hell of a lot longer to evap, but eventually it was ready.

now he has atleast 3 - 4 hits of yellow-green crystals, which he is far to scared to try.





Pure salvinorin anyone?

also, can somone reccomend somekind of saftey limit, i.e an amount to smoke? :S

SWIM found a site online once that sold salvinorin...pure...it was in alcohol...you could just drop a few drops of it on some smoking medium...and whoa...i dont blame you for being scared...

there is no safety limit...but have a sitter...its really helpful for when you are freaking out to have somebody grab a hold of your body and try to show your soul where to come back to

SWIM has tried it, he says 2mg vaporised is already a lot but that what he likes to smoke. Pretty scary though for most people.

The acetone method is pretty good for safely measuring doses;

1) Dissolve 10mg salvinorin per 1 ml acetone and store in the freezer.

2) Whenever in mood get 200 microliters of the stock, evap it to get 2mg of salvinorin

Whoa there pal!!!

A way too powerful dose of pure Salvinorin A is about the size of a single grain of salt, or smaller!!! You will need an extremely accurate scale to weigh it out correctly!!!
This is not something you want to try to eyeball a dose of!!!!

You should check out sagewisdom.org!!
I think there is a dose amount there for pure Salvinorin.
It is Daniel Sieberts site, he is kind of the "authority" on Salvia. There is a page there somewhere that he talks about the time he tried what he thought was going to be a totaly inactive amount of pure Salvinorin. It was left over from when he was trying to isolate the active chem in the Salvia leaf, if I remember correctly. He was violently thrown out of this conscious reality.
It was so far more, than way too much for him and he is one of the people responsible for bringing Saliva into modern attention, so its not that he was inexperienced at all.
This, from an amount too small to handle with bare fingers!!!

Be Careful!!!
and please, check out his site before trying this!!!


WS

yeah

no point in dosing pure salvinorin, you'll almost always overdose and not remember a thing, unless you have a $700+ (and that's used) scale, with res of 0.00001g

he could try just putting some in his mouth...the dose is larger....another thing he could do is weigh how much he has total..and then put it in some acetone and drop some drops on a piece of glass or something and let it evap..only using a few drops once he figured out how much each drop should contain..and dose that way

From wikipedia.org



Smoking 2mg of this shit is a BAD BAD idea!

It will have to be dissolved in alcohol or DCM (yuck, strong garlic smell!!) or something else to allow enough of the Salvinorin to cross through the skin and into the blood fast enough for it to be effective at all. Just putting crystals in your mouth does not do the trick. Remember an effective Quid is 20 to 30 large leaves at least, chewed & mushed around in the mouth for like 30 to 60 minutes, and that is if your using fresh leaf!! That means a whole lot of pure Salvinorin crystals to do anything at all by them self.
hint: the oils in the leaf, help aid in absorption though the mucus membrane of the mouth.


Once again, a dose of pure Salvinorin is smaller than a single grain of salt. A drop of acetone would more than likely hold a whole lot more than would be necessary for 15 people!!!

Best to make yourself a tincture, or even better, (also easier) dissolve it in acetone and soak some plain leaf in it & let it dry completely, to "enhance" the leaf. Kind of like making your own extract

Seriously, there have been nothing but horribly terrifying reports concerning pure Salvinorin crystals!!! like benzyme said, unless you have access to a scale that can accurately weight down to 0.00001g, you really shouldn't even consider it!!!
When I say a dose is smaller than a single grain of salt, that is not an exaggeration, that is for real!!

Here is a quote from Sieberts site, sagewisdom.org:


and here is a link to his report of accidentally ODing on pure Salvinorin:
Daniel Seberts report
Daniel is (or at least used to be) the guru of Salvia Divinorum!! His research is why most of us have even heard of Salvia. I'd take his word on it!!

WS

well dude...you wouldnt just use one drop of acetone...you would mix a certain amount into it..so you knew how much salvinorin was in there per milliliter...there are about 15 drops per milliliter...so if there is 5 mg of salvinorin per milliliter you would then have around 300 micrograms per drop...you could change the ratio any way you want...and in that way you could easily figure out a dose...its not that hard to figure out

could also do serial dilutions

Well actually a dose of salvinorin is NOT smaller than a grain of salt (I love this rumor whenever I meet it around the internet!), as a matter of fact 1mg looks like a tiny pinch of salt. It is perfectly fine to smoke it like that simply because one can inhale it in one go and keep it until reality melts.

As for 2mg, yep, this may be intense but that's how SWIM likes it. 1 to 1.5mg we re not that impressive to him.

I would stick to my suggestion using acetone to dissolve a given amount of salvinorin, it is really really easy and safe if done correctly.

SWIM has also found tinctures to be totally ineffective for him, especially after holding up to 10mg salvinorin dissolved in alcohol in his mouth. Waste of time

only the crude extract containing all the tannins and stuff works orally. alcohol tincture is the way to go. but not very pleasant.

SWIM had the idea of having these small perfume test tubes and making a salvinorin solution which would contain 1 nice breakthrough dose per drop. then drop 1 drop of the solution into every one perfume test bottle and let it evap. cap it.

whenever you feel the need to break through just open a bottle, heat it from below and inhale over it.

it would be pretty neat.

I guess I was kinda interested in ODing on salvia...

I haven't had a strong experience for a long time

haha then you wont be OVER dosing...you will just be dosing heavy