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#1 Posted : 6/18/2011 8:30:47 PM

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SWIM is going to prepare a first time pharma trip soon and wanted to know if using 1g syrian rue 3x extract with 80mg dmt fb oral ingestion would be sufficient btw SWIM is roughly 135 lbs.
SWIM also wanted to know if acetone was a good substitute for the polar solvent in an lsa extraction.
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Edit: And also is it true that for syrian rue you have to double the dose if body weight is doubled, but as far as the amount of dmt fb goes it can stay the same dose?
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#2 Posted : 6/18/2011 9:14:57 PM

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If you got that 3x from CS chances are you're going to need more.
I have talked to someone who used it and had to use 3 grams of the 3x extract to achieve MAOI.
Maybe take 2 grams of it just to be on the safe side so you don't under dose.

If you have more body weight you may even want to take 3 grams of the 3x... your DMT dose is sufficient.
 
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#3 Posted : 6/19/2011 6:17:06 AM

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yeah it was from CS, So i should just go with 2 grams for MAOI? and then say if my friend was about 70 to 80 lbs more weight then me they would effectively need about 3 grams?
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#4 Posted : 6/19/2011 6:17:53 AM

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Sorry didn't mean to double post my internet cut out for a sec there.
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#5 Posted : 6/19/2011 4:43:44 PM

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I dunno about doubling the dose for doubling the weight. You'd most likely wanna increase the dose, but I wouldn't go as so far as to double it. Also, you say you're taking lsa with it? I would keep that dose on the low end cause the MAOIs are already gonna potentiate it, plus you'll have the synergy with the DMT, and 80mg DMT for me would be on the moderately heavy side for a dose.
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#6 Posted : 6/19/2011 6:13:54 PM

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I did a manske on that stuff from celestial and got a decent yield. I would not take 3g of that stuff...3g might not be comparable to 9g rue, but it is more than 3g.
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mindlusion couldnt get MAOI until he ingested 3g of the stuff. Just sayin
 
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#8 Posted : 6/19/2011 7:51:22 PM

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yeah, but still I would start with 1g of it alone, and then take another if you need more. Once you find the spot where you have effects from it alone, than use that dose along with the DMT.

Everyone is different, and the effects from something comparable to like 6g of rue might not be so comfortable.

I think that extract in reality was more like 1.5 or 2x. Probly an alcohol extract..but you never know every batch could be different.
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#9 Posted : 6/21/2011 12:23:55 AM

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thanks for the info guys, and to answer your question global... no im not taking them at same time but i do plan on using them both for healing this next week or so.
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