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jdubs
#1 Posted : 3/9/2011 10:55:12 PM

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OK, so my freinds medicine is nearly brewed... one more 3 hour stint to go. I feel excited but...strangely calm. Can any experienced traveller offer any useful tips for my first journey?

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#2 Posted : 3/9/2011 10:59:53 PM

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and by tips I mean anything... what to focus on, what to avoid, setting etc etc...
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#3 Posted : 3/9/2011 11:46:46 PM

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This thread by Ms. Minxx is by far the best read for all things aya.

It's a long read but it probably contains most, if not all of the details you seek.
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Jez
#4 Posted : 3/10/2011 12:11:03 AM

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Hey jdubs! I just experienced my first brew last weekend. I did everything myself. I tried to do everything official and right... and it turned out crap Sad I ate light the day before... had a protein shake for breakfast... fasted all day... took 12 hours making Aya with 50 G caapi and 50 G viridis... added lime & ascorbic acid... 3 boils of 2 hours each with dH2O... You name it, I followed it.

I have a beautiful Queenslander House in Queensland... So I just sat on the veranda couch with touches lit everywhere and incense. I drank a considerable amount of the caapi first and then sipped a mix of the caapi/viridis within 30 minutes. In the end I just got sick after almost 2 hours. I felt a little trip and it would only happen if I sat completely still and closed my eyes. If I got up, moved, came into conscious thinking... it went away. I found it such a waste of time and energy. I started the drink at 7pm (after sunset) and by 11pm still nothing... I even ate fatty foods at the 2 hour mark to help get any extra DMT out of the liver!

I have read on many sites (plus my supplier hinted to me) that caapi can sometimes be a hit and miss thing. I honestly think that I just did not have enough caapi (MAOI). This is why...

A few days later after this experience I decided to do an extraction on the viridis leaves that I used. Just a test... as I knew I would get very little if any out since I already used them for Aya. Anyways, using the Q21Q21 tek 2 I ened up collecting nearly 100mg of crystal! Whether is was all DMT or not... who knows... but this is what I did with it.

I ground up 4 grams of Syrian Rue Seeds at around 7pm, dumped it in about 200 mL of Orange juice, and drank! After about 30 minutes I could feel the effects of the Rue coming on I dumped about 30 mL of OJ into the shotglass that I condenced the crystals into and dranks. I then immediately went to bed. Closed eye visuals started after about 30 minutes (8pm) and that was about it... but then after nearly 3 hours (~11pm)... BAM!!! it hit me! I was tripping until 3am. It was not over the edge... but still much better than the Aya! At one point I had to pee so bad and my "trip" to the bathroom I swear I could have been diagnoised with parkinsons!!! Lol... Definite visuals! I can't really describe. I actually got motion sickness from walking? But... I never threw up with this mix!

So my advice... add 2-3 grams of Syrian Rue just prior to taking the Aya. I think if I had done this my first time... the experience would have been unforgettable! Good luch and happy seeking!
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#5 Posted : 3/10/2011 12:50:54 AM

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Make enough brew for several sessions. Many people report no effects the first time out so don't get discouraged. I usually need between 75 and 100g of caapi but that's me. you might want to up the dose by half if you feel no effects after an hour or so. Good luck and let us know how it wentVery happy
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jdubs
#6 Posted : 3/10/2011 4:33:40 PM

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OK, so I tried 25g of the caapi last night, and very little happened (except a feeling that 'i was not alone' in the room, that could very well have been just imagination). Pretty strange dreams though!

This morning woke up, tried 50g, still nothing much, except a slight feeling of disorientation while walking. Still no purge though, which is kind of what I am after here. I feel pretty good though.

I have brewed some light, and hopefully will soon find the 'sweet spot' with the caapi, in order to blast off Smile. Have made 250g worth of the caapi, so hopefully will get there in the end! Very happy

P.S many many thanks for all your replies!
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jdubs
#7 Posted : 3/10/2011 4:36:13 PM

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Also, Jez, I will definatly be trying your recipe soon, when funds will allow Very happy
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