Tamzin
Posts: 35 Joined: 05-Jan-2011 Last visit: 06-Feb-2013 Location: London, Hong Kong
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Just a quick question.. I'm a bit worried about how long my spice will keep for, I store it in total darkness at room temperature. But how long will it retain its potency for, any idea? It's already 4 months old and I appears to be losing its potency :-/ ie can't seem to get breakthrough from it lately. Or is this some sort of resistance to the effects of it that I've developed now, rather than the spice spoiling?
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DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 88 Joined: 16-Mar-2010 Last visit: 13-Oct-2019
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It depends on what form it is in. A salt (DMT fumarate) will be much more stable and last much longer than the freebase form. Tryptamines in general are susceptible to oxidation and such forms of deterioration -- at least when compared to phenethylamines like 2c-e. Specifically how long it will keep is hard to say. I have some enhanced leaf that I made with freebase last June and just had some today; seems as potent as ever  Could be the breakthrough issues are just the regular waxing and waning of your own biochemistry? I've experienced that myself numerous times. ~ hpp
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Tamzin
Posts: 35 Joined: 05-Jan-2011 Last visit: 06-Feb-2013 Location: London, Hong Kong
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Hmm thanks for the heads up, maybe it's just me then. I won't panic yet then 
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DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 14191 Joined: 19-Feb-2008 Last visit: 09-May-2024 Location: Jungle
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FAQ: https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/FAQ#Does_DMT_go_bad.3FYour spice should be fine in 4 months, Ive smoked year old spice that had gotten a bit darker/waxier but was perfectly active. I think oxidation seems to happen only on the outside surface, most dmt seems to be intact. How often do you smoke dmt? Do you smoke weed too? What method of smoking are you using? I would guess the answer to your 'lack of effects' would be in either of those 3 questions
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DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 253 Joined: 06-Jul-2010 Last visit: 11-Sep-2011 Location: Never Neverland
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Freebase DMT going bad is not something I would waste my time worrying about, the worst that could happen is that it will turn into DMT n-oxide. If it has turned into n-oxide you can do some kind of zinc reduction to turn it back into DMT, I don't know much about the n-oxide to DMT conversion as I never have my DMT long enough to worry about it going bad.
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Tamzin
Posts: 35 Joined: 05-Jan-2011 Last visit: 06-Feb-2013 Location: London, Hong Kong
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Thanks for the infos guys <3
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DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 82 Joined: 21-Jun-2010 Last visit: 19-Oct-2011 Location: Canada
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If you're worried about it, put it in the fridge/freezer. A FOAF has kept 5g in the fridge for 3 months with no noticeable loss of potency.
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