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trashcan
#1 Posted : 2/3/2011 6:12:29 AM

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the sonoran desert taod has glands that produce 5-meo-dmt and poison. It can be milked for about a gram of venom, per six weeks, which contains 75 milligrams of 5 meo dmt. I was wondering how safe it is to smoke it. considering if a dog eats a gram of the venom it will die.
 

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#2 Posted : 2/3/2011 6:14:52 AM

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Im almost Sure That You should be fine ingesting it might kill you but smoking is a different story read more up on it too see if you can find anything on it.
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trashcan
#3 Posted : 2/3/2011 6:17:28 AM

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ive read alot, i cant come up with much other than the fact that people do smoke it. theres gotta be a toxicity rate somewhere though. if someone found out the components of the venom then one could determine this. i am so far unable to do so
 
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#4 Posted : 2/3/2011 11:36:52 PM

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I've been looking into getting a toad for a few years. 5-MeO-DMT and 5-HO-DMT (bufotenine)

It's poison (venom is injected) is in a wide class of bufotoxins that contain digoxin-like cardiac glycosides

"The first involves the cardiac glycoside-like effects of the bufagins; the second is the pressor effects of the catecholamines; and the third is the hallucinogenic effect of the indolealkylamines. After a toad had been ingested, it is difficult to evaluate which of these effects will predominate. Usually, the cardiovascular effects are the most prominent."
-Erowid

I would ASSUME that drying followed by combustion of the poison renders the unwanted bufotoxins and their associated cardiac effects null... just an assumption...

Mr. Davis, a Washington anthropologist, calls the effect [smoked] "a magical slap in the face."

Erowid link to Toad Toxins
http://www.erowid.org/an...oads/toads_health1.shtml
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#5 Posted : 2/4/2011 12:07:26 AM

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Just try milking it into a pyrex dish and stick it under a light to speed up the drying.
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trashcan
#6 Posted : 2/4/2011 12:29:01 AM

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its easy to get it and smoke it, i just vant figure out if its safe
 
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#7 Posted : 2/4/2011 2:49:53 AM

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The following compounds were identified in Bufo alvarius poison using paper chromatography:

N,N-dimethyl-5-hydroxytrytamine; bufotenine
N,N-dimethyl-5-methoxytrytamine; O-methylbufotenine; (5-methoxy-N,N-dimethyltrypamine; 5-MeO-DMT)
5-methoxytryptophol
5-methoxyindoleacetic acid
5-hydroxytryptophol
5-hydroxyindoleacetic acid
N-methyl-5-methoxytryptamine
N-methyl-5-hydroxytryptamine
bufoviridine; N,N-dimethyl-5-hydroxytrytamine-O-sulfate
5-hydroxytryptamine; 5-HT; serotonin; enteramine; thrombocytin; thrombotonin
N-methyl-serotonin
tryptophan
bufotalindin; hellebrigenin; (a bufogenin - cardioactive sterol)

from http://www.bufoalvarius.org/erspamer.htm


Safety goes with moderation. I read somewhere about indians using the poison as a hallucinogenic, I'll try to find the source...
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