Is it possible to move the alkaloids from one NPS to another without re-x'ing? The NPS I have now has a waaaay to high boiling point and it's impossible to evaporate it. =\

You can move them but you have to backsalt !!
It's just a simple mini AB !!

Sweet!! Do you know about what ratios to use? Should it be relative to the amount of NPS or the amount of alkaloids? I guess it should be relative to the alkaloids, but since you cant know how much alkaloids you have you have to compare to the NPS, no?

No it doesn't matter , just add alkaloid naps to an acidic water mix and seperate then discard old naps as the alkaloids are in the water then basify water add new naps the repull !!

Hey guys how you all doing? Just wanted to stop in and say I finally had a huge success! *** **** ** mhrb, and all i can say is wow. Did cybs salt tek with 50g of mrhb, and ended up with a large vial of white and yellow crystals that I crushed and blended. I can't explain everything that happened, cause words could do it no justice when I tried it. First took a small taste, and had the beautiful kaleidoscope visions with both eyes opened and closed (seemed much much more powerful than my goo did from the acasia), but then came the real show on the second attempt. Feeling fairly comfortable I loaded more on after settling down. After a long draw I could feel this wasn't going to be like the last. As I pulled that last bit in all I could see was the flame from the lighter surrounded by bright patterns, and then I exhaled.... boom blast off. Total detachment from my body and surroundings like I just shot into nothingness. I can't even put words to what happened, then I came to just a bit. Let me stress the JUST a bit part lol. I managed to stand up but that just was insane. I tried to find my bedroom since I had started on the couch, but couldn't find the bedroom in a two bedroom apartment. I made it into the kitchen and it seemed as I was looking at a children's play set. It became pretty overwhelming and I came to believe that either I was dead or asleep out somewhere in between because my body was non-existent so I did the only thing that made any sort of sense to me at the time. I laid on the floor and just gave in.if this was death,I had no control.if it was a dream I had no control either. I came to the point of surrender and instantly felt like I was shoot back inching closer to reality. Wow it was the most confusing, yet enlightening feeling in the world. It felt like I walked the line of life and death, reality and nothingness. Mind blown

Hey all, long time listener, first time caller!

So I have a problem retrieving my crystals from my first extraction. I used only 16.8 g MHRB and followed Noman's tek to the "T". Problem is that I basically lost my first pull after the crystals melted and I didn't know what to do. Now I did a second and third pull and have a bunch of tiny crystals (I mean tiny - around or less than a millimeter) sitting at the bottom of a small mason jar in the freezer.

As you all know, mason jar bottoms are curved, and the top may be too small to give my hand room to work. I'm also worried the crystals will just melt again. So how do I get these crystals out of the jar?

Thanks for all your help!

Dreamtoday to be honest your just gonna complicate things when you start using sand and that just follow the tek, get a pan boil the kettle put the boiling water in the pan, put your glassware in, when it cools just top up, that's all you have to do

hey guys, i evaporated the Nafta and the result is this...


but, where is the crystals ?

So I did cybs 50g acrb salt tek, and still ended up with goo. Not complaining cause it was some amazing goo that sent me to an amazingly beautiful place and had a wonderful euphoric/restorative feeling just wondering what this could be caused by? I followed the tek to the t. I used 50g of Hawaiian acrb, sunnsyside brand naptha, sea salt (non iodized) and distilled white vinegar. I'm wondering if instead of trying the freeze precipitation, would it help to let it all just evaporate giving time for the crystals to form? Any insight would be greatly appreciated! Have a wonderful day,night, or experience depending on where you all are in the universe

So you're looking for corrections in method, I assume?

For the freezing, I'd say use a minimal amount of water, just enough to turn the stuff into a paste. Less volume would make it easier to work with, and minimize chances of exploding a vessel in the freezer.

I'd reccommend with that much material, stir some pure ascorbic acid (probably a few hefty tablespoons, get it at a local vitamin store. It also helps with dropping the pH) into your acid mixture when you've got it all in there. That converts any oxides into straight salted spice, ensuring you get everything out.

Once you've soaked the stuff for a while, definitely strain it out with a tshirt or bandana, and consider another acid soak to ensure you've got everything. Usually this is done with boiling for efficiency and to make it happen faster, but is likely not totally necessary. Straining the material minimizes emulsions caused by particulate matter. Alternatively let the stuff settle after stirring and decant the liquid and keep solids in the vessel for further washing, but still filter it with some sort of cloth material to get the majority of solids out.

For the defatting, you can gently swirl, but there's no reason not to emulsify it by shaking it up roughly. Emulsions greatly increase surface area between the solvent and solution, but you just have to let it sit a bit before removing solvent is all. If you've strained it well, the emulsions shouldn't stick around too long anyway.

Do the defat a few times too. ACRB has a lot of fats. Also, for an interesting experience, you could just evap all the fatty solvent and you're going to have some goodies in there, although not spice (B-Carbolines and NMT, both soluble in NPS in both acid and based solutions)

For the salting, I'd say base it first and then salt the crap out of it. No need to be precise, just pour a lot of salt in there. It'll take a bit to dissolve if you're using rock salt (usually the cleanest you can get, no anti-caking agents, etc) but the more salt you have the faster and more saturated the pulls really. Pour it in until the salt refuses to dissolve further. It will mean less work and less pulls being done, so that's why I say load it on in.

For the based pulls, once again, if you've strained the material, and it's based enough, then you should be able to shake it, although your vessel has to be completely leak-proof to do this. Shaking is optional compared to stirring or swirling, but it's what my friends have done with good success. Also, I wouldn't discard the water until you're sure it's empty, so just keep that in mind. It isn't a pain to keep a vessel around a couple extra days, which you may want to do if your pulls for some reason don't work.

Easy rule is don't throw anything out until you're sure the process worked.

With those considerations (along with the mini a/b, which I would reccommend saturating with salt as well after basing) it should work out. Although I'd almost reccommend doing a small batch to make sure your process is perfect first.

The rest of it looks good, although I'll suggest that when extracting from based solution that you should extract until nothing is getting pulled anymore. For such a large volume, maybe use larger amounts of NPS than listed, but that's only in the name of efficiency.

And as always, safety first. Be very very cautious if you decide to shake the vessels. That's why I mentioned a proper seal. Getting either the acid or based solution in your eyes will hurt like hell and quite possibly make you blind. If it gets on skin, wash it immediately and neutralizing based solution with vinegar isn't a bad idea, although a thorough rinse with tap water should do it.

Hope this helps.