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dmt handbook uses 200g lye for a kilo Marsofold's uses 50g lye for a pound FAQ suggest 1g lye for 1g mhrb and less ect... which would =453g lye If SWIM were to use 125g mhrb the option of 125g lye is there, but it is a heavy load compared to the other A/B teks. question is should SWIM stick with 50g lye even tho 125g is 3x's less than a pound? Or go with more or less? thanks, i know this is a dead question but i'm anal. 
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the 1:1 ratio is for STB, not A/B. With A/B extractions, you can do fine with a lot less. Exactly how much you need depends on how much acid you use (since the NaOH needs to neutralize the acid in the process of raising the pH). But since you're using MHRB, why bother with weighing out a precise amount of NaOH? Just make a concentrated solution of it, and add enough that the mimosa-water transitions through that gray sludgy stage and turns that slippery-black color. That's the beauty of MHRB extraction: the bark acts as a built-in pH meter.
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so SWIM added 32oz of lye/water to a half gal of mhrb solution, and has got a jug of light colored chocolet milk, good? bad?
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Bad... emulsion city! Add more until it turns a slippery near-opaque black.
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SWIM cant thank u enuff for that quick response, the coco has turned to oil by adding 5x's the lyedoseage.
now for a more relaxed que, does the stuff need to be dark, or the skin from the movie aliens black? because it is light black, SWIM is just not sure if it can go say TAR black. thankya.
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check out this photo of SWIM first attempt, does it look right? barrowingtime attached the following image(s):  Untitled.jpg (3,033kb) downloaded 77 time(s).
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looks like emulsions.. put a small handful of salt & some more lys(or whatever base used) in there. should clear it up *We are now at a phase of human development where we have accumulated an enormous amount of knowledge through scientific research in the material world. This is very important knowledge, but it must be integrated. -Hoffman *A young man who wishes to remain a sound Atheist cannot be too careful of his reading -C.S. Lewis cephalopods are enlightened -benzyme T R I P S I T
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ouch! Ice House is an alter ego. The threads, postings, replys, statements, stories, and private messages made by Ice House are 100% unadulterated Bull Shit. Every aspect of the Username Ice House is pure fiction. Any likeness to SWIM or any real person is purely coincidental. The creator of Ice House does not condone or participate in any illicit activity what so ever. The makebelieve character known as Ice House is owned and operated by SWIM and should not be used without SWIM's expressed written consent.
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this my friends is what happens when a SWIM adds a half teaspoon of lye to a pot of water and achieves a ph of 12 and thinks it's good to go. So far SWIM has added many grams more of lye solution to get back on track. 
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good deal! yeah, a person should use AT LEAST 1gram lye per gram of bark *We are now at a phase of human development where we have accumulated an enormous amount of knowledge through scientific research in the material world. This is very important knowledge, but it must be integrated. -Hoffman *A young man who wishes to remain a sound Atheist cannot be too careful of his reading -C.S. Lewis cephalopods are enlightened -benzyme T R I P S I T
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so basically SWIM been dumping the lye in, managed to get a lot of naptha out, it's clear so not knowing if anything is worth freezing. barrowingtime attached the following image(s): CIMG4319.JPG (3,236kb) downloaded 52 time(s).
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screw A/B, SWIM will give STB a try another time, if that dont work then it was not meant to be.
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