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#1 Posted : 5/19/2023 9:48:40 PM

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I have done many extractions and have always found 1g of NaOH to 1g of bark to be the best for mixing as much as you want without any emulsions. If it doesn't separate all the way I use a skinny pipette as a stirring rod and they separate a charm! Any tips for using less lye but still being resistant to emulsion?
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#2 Posted : 5/19/2023 9:50:29 PM

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For 100g of plant material, you really only need about 40g dissolved in 100ml of cool water.

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With Mimosa rootbark and also San Pedro Cactus I've always used 1g/1g which is more than enough.
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#4 Posted : 5/19/2023 9:51:44 PM

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Thanks brother, you are very good. I can save so much lye now lol
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#5 Posted : 5/19/2023 9:53:25 PM

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abecedarian wrote:
With Mimosa rootbark and also San Pedro Cactus I've always used 1g/1g which is more than enough.


Yeah I find this ratio great with 100g at a ratio of 1:1:7.5. Thanks for the comment
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#6 Posted : 5/19/2023 11:18:16 PM

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Thanks brother, you are very good. I can save so much lye now lol


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I've been meaning to try out even less than that, just to see. Worst case scenario, I add more lye later.

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#7 Posted : 5/19/2023 11:29:10 PM

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Voidmatrix wrote:
Mushie_Man wrote:
Thanks brother, you are very good. I can save so much lye now lol


Smile

I've been meaning to try out even less than that, just to see. Worst case scenario, I add more lye later.

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I have a pH tester. I think it was only 15 euros. I will use it and see how much lye it takes to reach pH 13 and let you know
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#8 Posted : 5/19/2023 11:34:49 PM

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Mushie_Man wrote:
Voidmatrix wrote:
Mushie_Man wrote:
Thanks brother, you are very good. I can save so much lye now lol


Smile

I've been meaning to try out even less than that, just to see. Worst case scenario, I add more lye later.

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I have a pH tester. I think it was only 15 euros. I will use it and see how much lye it takes to reach pH 13 and let you know


I forgot that I do too Laughing Done enough that I haven't pulled it out in a long time.

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#9 Posted : 5/20/2023 12:57:09 AM

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Voidmatrix wrote:
Mushie_Man wrote:
Voidmatrix wrote:
Mushie_Man wrote:
Thanks brother, you are very good. I can save so much lye now lol


Smile

I've been meaning to try out even less than that, just to see. Worst case scenario, I add more lye later.

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I have a pH tester. I think it was only 15 euros. I will use it and see how much lye it takes to reach pH 13 and let you know


I forgot that I do too Laughing Done enough that I haven't pulled it out in a long time.

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This is my own tek I have developed over time, what do you think? Is this clear enough? I am working on turning it into a video for my channel. I had the 'Mushie_Man Tek' on YT but they took it down and struck my channel but it's up on Bitchute. I have made many improvements since that video and want to make sure the next video is clear for all to follow:

- Add 100g Mimosa Hostilis Root Bark (powdered) to a 1L Borosilicate glass mason jar (clip-top).
- In a separate borosilicate glass (Pyrex) measuring jug measure 750ml of water (I use de-ionized water), add the lye (I use around 40g) to 750ml de-ionised water slowly as a violent chemical reaction occurs and creates a high pH solution and high temperature. We need a pH of 12 or above to break down the cell walls of the bark and release the molecule into the base, so keep adding the lye in small increments and stirring until dissolved or the desired pH is reached (the mixture should turn clear when fully dissolved). Remember to use a stainless steel spoon here so it doesn't get dissolved into your mixture. Allow to cool to room temperature before adding to the powdered bark (this helps to create whiter crystals).
- Mix your cooled-down (room-temp) lye water into the powdered bark (I like to feel the outside of the jug with my hand but you can use a thermometer also). Be careful not to splash it on you and always wear gloves, eye protection and even a face mask to help prevent harmful fumes from being inhaled. Mix until the bark is fully saturated and no dried bark is floating on the top. Take your time with this part and make sure it's done correctly.
- Once you are happy that your base is fully saturated, add your solvent on top. Mix (don't shake) softly for about 10 minutes and let sit for 30 minutes. We are just making sure that every bit of the base has been in contact with the solvent to rip away that molecule. Repeat this process 7/8 times to ensure the solvent has extracted the DMT molecule into it. I like to use the rubber seal on the mason jar during mixing but I remove it during the 30-minute separation periods between mixes to prevent pressure build-up and a possible explosion. Don't worry about emulsions because vibration can help remove them, also I use my glass stirring rod to mix the soup and it does wonders to help separate the layers if they don't do so automatically.
- When you are happy that your solvent has dissolved enough DMT, siphon the solvent layer off into an 8x8 Pyrex dish, put the lid on and let it freeze for 12 hours MINIMUM!
-Don't worry about leaving a thin layer of solvent in the mason jar as it gets difficult to siphon without sucking any base into the pipette. We will add more solvent on top to start what's called the 2nd pull (you can reuse the solvent from the 1st pull once you bring it back to room temp before adding it back into your base). Once you do this just repeat the mixing and siphon process and it's recommended to do this 3 times (3 pulls) overall but you can do it as many times as you want. You can reuse solvent as many times as you want also, so please don't waste it as it is crucial to the process because it is where the DMT molecules are suspended until the freeze precipitation crystallises them.
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#10 Posted : 5/20/2023 1:50:28 AM

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Good job. It's a pretty standard STB tek.

You've probably noticed the fumes from your lye mixture, so a mask is a good idea for that part of the process too. Not sure how much allowing the lye mixture to cool actually aids in whiter crystals however.

Removing the lid will allow more solvent to naturally evaporate ones it separates from the soup if you remove the lid completely. You can always just loosen it and that will also help pressure buildup, though, if everything is room temperature, there shouldn't be too much pressure buildup.

It may be helpful to provide your audience with tips on siphoning/decanting (such as pressing the tip of the pipette against the side of the jar, pulling slowly, if some of the soup accidentally gets sucked up allowing it to float to the bottom of the pipette and then spitting it out, using a transfer jar, etc.)

Good job.

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#11 Posted : 5/20/2023 11:19:59 AM

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Voidmatrix wrote:
Good job. It's a pretty standard STB tek.

You've probably noticed the fumes from your lye mixture, so a mask is a good idea for that part of the process too. Not sure how much allowing the lye mixture to cool actually aids in whiter crystals however.

Removing the lid will allow more solvent to naturally evaporate ones it separates from the soup if you remove the lid completely. You can always just loosen it and that will also help pressure buildup, though, if everything is room temperature, there shouldn't be too much pressure buildup.

It may be helpful to provide your audience with tips on siphoning/decanting (such as pressing the tip of the pipette against the side of the jar, pulling slowly, if some of the soup accidentally gets sucked up allowing it to float to the bottom of the pipette and then spitting it out, using a transfer jar, etc.)

Good job.

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Thanks so much for that bro! Adding tips for siphoning is a great idea and the reason I am asking people for input is for that exact reason Thumbs up See I reuse my solvent so I try not let any evaporate. I have a dish drying now, I will post a pic once the crystals get fluffy and the residue has evaporated off. When you heat bath, do you put it on a low or medium setting? My hob has 7 heat settings so would you be more inclined to leave it on 2 or 3?
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#12 Posted : 5/20/2023 12:47:47 PM

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Voidmatrix wrote:
Good job. It's a pretty standard STB tek.

You've probably noticed the fumes from your lye mixture, so a mask is a good idea for that part of the process too. Not sure how much allowing the lye mixture to cool actually aids in whiter crystals however.

Removing the lid will allow more solvent to naturally evaporate ones it separates from the soup if you remove the lid completely. You can always just loosen it and that will also help pressure buildup, though, if everything is room temperature, there shouldn't be too much pressure buildup.

It may be helpful to provide your audience with tips on siphoning/decanting (such as pressing the tip of the pipette against the side of the jar, pulling slowly, if some of the soup accidentally gets sucked up allowing it to float to the bottom of the pipette and then spitting it out, using a transfer jar, etc.)

Good job.

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#13 Posted : 5/20/2023 12:56:49 PM

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Beautiful sight my friend. Thank you for sharing Smile

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#14 Posted : 5/20/2023 1:11:47 PM

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Beautiful sight my friend. Thank you for sharing Smile

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Thanks brother. I hope I can be a good contributor to the site as I have many things going at the moment. Is it strictly DMT or do people post mushroom content?
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#15 Posted : 5/20/2023 1:23:24 PM

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You tell me Smile

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#17 Posted : 5/20/2023 1:48:23 PM

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You tell me Smile

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Im not sure but i guess just DMT lol
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#18 Posted : 5/20/2023 1:49:04 PM

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0.25g of lie per gram of bark


Thanks so much for your advice I really appreciate it Stop
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#19 Posted : 5/20/2023 2:08:57 PM

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#20 Posted : 5/20/2023 4:57:24 PM

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You are a fucking gentleman fair paly to you for showing me that! I smoke weed too so I can share so much now lol
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