You are making a good choice by choosing Cielo. It is a great tek. I would advise to rather just do the Tek as it is in the recipe for your first time and then once you got the basics down then you could probably try experiment. Although I dont really see the need as the end product is great.

As for the cactus, they dont mind rain. As long as it doesn't rain every day for a month on end then they will be okay. They are not really like the many cacti you would think grow in the dry desert. They like good fertile and well draining soil. I water mine well at-least once a week. I sometimes even feed them some nutrients if they look like they need some.

The cold however depending where you live will be a problem. any frost/snow temps will rot them. I luckily do not have that problem because I live in a warm climate most of the year and even the winters are never so cold that we get frost.

Here are some freshly germinated Brigessi-blue pach seedlings, planted around 80. Going to be starting many different types/crosses soon. 🌵🌵🌵

You have any particular guides / resources that you use to successfully germinate cacti seeds? My two Lophophora Williamsii created about seventy seeds last summer and I want to start those up in the next month or two.

I've watched a few videos on YouTube from a channel called San Pedro Mastery. Something like this seemed simple enough to accomplish and I have pretty much everything already Growing San Pedro & Peyote in Small Containers.

Hey there.

Well you are watching the right channel as that guy knows what he is doing when it comes to growing from seed. That was my go to channel as well when i started. If you follow his advise you will definitely succeed.

I use a pre-blended 50/50 coco + perlite soil mix that has already been sterilised. I am sure you'll find something like that, usually found on cannabis grow stores. I also used RO water but any water that doesn't contain chloride should be fine.

I think the most important thing is to sterilise everything before you start the process to avoid any mold issues later on.

what temps/light is your environment like where you live?

Another beautiful batch, bumped it as i was taking a picture and couldnt get a picture those pretty crystals all over the glass 🥲🌵🌵🌵


I will be doing some brigessi extracts in the next few weeks. Keen to see what they yield.

Glad I am barking up the right tree so to speak. I've got a RO system and all the stuff to make up the soil thankfully. Do you use a powder based fungicide in your seed soil mixture? I was planning to sterilize my soil and not run one but figured to ask. I usually have a "better safe than sorry" mentality when it comes to something that has this level of time commitment.

This is the time of year where I start seeds for my garden anyways. I've got a four foot eight bulb high-output T5 fixture that I'm about to setup and turn on inside of a closet in my basement. When I have that fixture on, the closet usually will hold 75-80F during winter time when the rest of the house is 60-70F.

Love these green crystal pictures btw.

Thanks, I love the look of the crystals in the solution


As for fungicide, I do not add any into my soil because the soil mix I buy comes pre-sterlized and then I also sterlize the container before adding the soil and seeds. I'm not sure about adding a fungicide along. I also think by staying proactive and checking on the seedling daily to make sure there arnt issues is also key so that you can catch it early and air out the container.

I already poked 3 holes in my plastic wrap at the top and will poke a few more in the next 2 weeks to help bring fresh air in. Just keep an eye to make sure the medium never dries out.

It all sounds like you got a good plan for them I think just go ahead and start those babies. I know eventually with Peyote seedlings it is important to note that they do not require as regular waterings as the trichos, but this is only a little bit later on.


Good luck with your babies, ill be keeping an eye out to see if you have any updates.

I have 100g finely powdered cacti and am ready to give this a shot. Is the CIELO Tek updated with your tweaks you were doing? It was an amazing read to see you up your yields so efficiently over a short amount of time. I've been obsessed with extraction myself lately and just finished a Tek of my own for DMT extraction. Very excited to give this a try. Just need to get myself some Ethyl Acetate and Citric Acid.

Also, any last minute advice on things that you found helpful that may not be on the Tek?

Hey there

That's awesome, I will be sure to check it out. I will be doing a DMT extraction in the next few weeks, just waiting for my bark to arrive. Still deciding on which extraction route I should go. Will ask the advise of my fellow forum friends.

I think you will enjoy this extraction! Loveall and everyone who was involved in this tek has put in so much research and care into this extraction that I think they have come out with a very detailed recipe. If you follow all the steps carefully it is hard to fail I think. I dont have much to add as I think they have covered it very well in the Tek recipe.

Even if you end up with goo you can still rectify the issue by adding dry Ethyl Acetate. They are always updating the recipe if there are minor things that come up and they are very helpful when you are busy with extractions and need advise on something during the process.


Have fun and post some updates once you have done the extraction!

So I have completed this batch using resused Ehtyl Acetate with some very interesting results... This was the same cactus that gave me 1 gram per 100grams dry last time. This included the skin. These were all young cacti, around 2 years old pups that came from cuttings from the same mother.

This time however I took all the skin off and I did a 150 gram extract which resulted in 3 grams. I honestly did not expect that yield... I was expecting more of around 1.5-2 grams for this.

Might be worthwhile to test a few more cacti this way. Thought it was just interesting to post. I wonder how much the skin and spines weigh in total when dried. Maybe some of the pups just had different mescaline content? Idk... just strange that out of my other 2 extractions I got 1 gram each time. They were all the same.

It doesn't really make a difference at the end of the day but maybe it is just a little more efficient to remove the skin and getting a little more yield per extraction. Will do some more tests in the future to see if it was because of this.

Anyways, here are some pictures.

o.O thanks for the crystal porn =) and thanks for all the efforts here, taking notes.....

That is super interesting. I can say that on the same powder I have gotten the same yield for new and reused EA. So your yield boost could be from removing the skin?

If you can get to the bottom of this that would be awesome.

What did you do with the removed skin? Can you dry it and check how much it weights? Can you extract it?

That is a high yield for deskinned cacti. I have always been told that mescaline is mostly on the green skin. Maybe young cacti are different?

Also, how did you de-skin exactly? How much time between removing the skin and chopping/drying the cacti? Was the cacti alive during this time? I wonder if young cacti react to being skinned alive?

Edit: There are also two main types of pups, those that grow at the bottom (basal?) and those that sprout at the top, near where the mother plant is cut. Are the 1% cuts from a different area of the mother as the 3% cut?

These were all pups that grew from cuts that came from one mother that I cut into multiple pieces and replanted. So they all came from the top of the cacti cuts and not from the actual mother plant itself at the bottom.

By skin i mean the waxy outer layer of the cactus. I used the green flesh only but without the thorns and waxy skin. I cut the pups off around a month ago. So could be that the difference is that the mescaline content was that much higher in only a month resting compared to the other 2 batches i did? They werent even in the dark, they were just outside in indirect light.

Im sure the waxy skin and thorns weigh a bit but im not sure if it can be so much to increase the yield this much? There was no differnce between the pups i used for the first two extractions than the one i did now.


I took all these cuts and despined them first. Then i sliced along each rib and pulled the waxy skin off of all the cuts first. Then after i have removed all the wax skin and thorns i sliced the green flesh off of the cactus and diced it into small peices and then dehydrated them in my oven like i always do.

Ah, so one difference was month resting in indirect sunlight vs no rest after cutting?

I think that can explain the yield doubling ☺️

Resting is reccomened in the dark, but I don't think anyone has compared indirect light vs dark rest. You may have found that darkness is not necessary to double yields during the resting period 👍

And the difference was only in 1 month of resting which is pretty insane that the yield doubled in such a short amount of time.... im stunned haha. Couldnt beileve what the scale was telling me

But for intrest sake, next time i will weigh the wax skin as well just to see how much it weighs when dry.

Yep, I'm pretty sure finding that simply one month in indirect sunlight doubles yields is a new claim. Would be great if you could compare it directly to 3 months in cool darkness. If both simply double the yield that would be great info and new knoledge for the community 💚

I could be wrong, but I think 3 months cool dark rest is the current "standard". Would be great to update that to a simpler/shorter rest if new data supports that.

I will in the new future do two smaller 50g extractions from the same peice of cactus and do 1 immediately and the other in a months time in indirect light to get true results and see what we can find.

Ok, I believe the top part of the plant yields more. You may need to use pups for the resting period so the experiment is not affected by other factors.

What about slicing the cut in half from tip to base, hot dog style. That way the tip isn't all in one extract and you can extract one half immediately and extract the other after the dark rest. Throwing it out there as I thought about it but haven't fully thought it out yet.

I get the strong feeling the plant might not like that, at all. But it might survive three months without rotting, perhaps.

One thing to pay attention to with this experiment would be which side faced south while the plant was growing, and how much shade the other sides would get. How would you control for that? Maybe the Van der Sypt microanalysis would be more suitable here, using a skin punch to take a small sample followed by quantification using TLC after a preliminary work-up.
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