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69ron
#21 Posted : 3/19/2009 7:15:18 AM

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Jorkest wrote:
while boiling with d-limonene does NOT give you crystals..it leaves a sticky looking film that when dried..and scraped up..turns into a tan powder that is FAIRLY pure..


I bet under a microscope they are crystals. They are just very small. Xylene makes very small bufotenine crystals. It's hard to tell they are crystals until you look at them under a microscope.
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#22 Posted : 3/19/2009 2:32:52 PM

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ahh that makes sense..once dried they most certainly have that flashy little crystal like shine to them
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#23 Posted : 3/19/2009 9:39:31 PM

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hey LLB- try this site :http://www.greenterpene.com/Default.asp?Redirected=Y


they have a "high-purity" limonene that is something like 95-97% pure....

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#24 Posted : 3/19/2009 9:42:26 PM

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actually- the "high-purity" is 98.5% .... the "food-grade" is 95%.

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#25 Posted : 3/19/2009 10:49:19 PM

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That's something SWIM was wondering about. Is the difference between the high purity and food grade quality control and FDA certification? Or is it just the 2% difference? Or is it possibly due to what comprises those impurities?

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Q. What is the difference between food grade and high purity d-Limonene?

A. Once extracted, the "food grade d-Limonene" is purified by fractionation. The resulting product, high purity d-limonene contains a minimum of 98.5% d-limonene. Food grade d-Limonene contains a minimum of 95% d-Limonene.


Just noticed the price difference, so it must be the complexity of the process that's the only difference. SWIM's assuming that food-grade is pure enough for extraction purposes? He's still wondering what the impurities are.
 
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#26 Posted : 3/19/2009 11:28:47 PM

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email them and ask them...
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#27 Posted : 3/20/2009 2:16:15 AM

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SWIM used the food grade...it evaps fine..and leaves a wonderful orangy freshness...SWIM would prefer the high purity..but ITS FOOD GRADE...good enough for SWIM
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#28 Posted : 3/20/2009 2:20:56 AM

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amor_fati wrote:
That's something SWIM was wondering about. Is the difference between the high purity and food grade quality control and FDA certification? Or is it just the 2% difference? Or is it possibly due to what comprises those impurities?

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From the site:
Quote:
Q. What is the difference between food grade and high purity d-Limonene?

A. Once extracted, the "food grade d-Limonene" is purified by fractionation. The resulting product, high purity d-limonene contains a minimum of 98.5% d-limonene. Food grade d-Limonene contains a minimum of 95% d-Limonene.


Just noticed the price difference, so it must be the complexity of the process that's the only difference. SWIM's assuming that food-grade is pure enough for extraction purposes? He's still wondering what the impurities are.


I already asked them about it. Their high purity d-limonene is their food grade d-limonene that is just further refined, that's all. It's still edible. NOTHING IS ADDED TO IT. It only contains extractives of the fruit and that's it. It's 100% natural, 100% from fruit, with absolutely nothing added to it. They don't call it food grade because it's of higher purity, that's all, but it's still edible according to them.

Food grade is good enough. You don't need high purity unless you're doing research that requires high purity.
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#29 Posted : 3/20/2009 3:34:13 AM

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is there any h20 in there with the lower food grade as apposed to the more concentrate?
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#30 Posted : 3/20/2009 3:41:42 AM

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d-limonene floats on top of water..so SWIM thinks it would be impossible for the company to leave any in there
it's a sound
 
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#31 Posted : 3/20/2009 3:52:55 AM

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all right then...
swim just wonders what the other 6 percent is in a say a 94% citrus oil?
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#32 Posted : 3/20/2009 3:58:33 AM

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well SWIM has evapped a bit of d-limonene(with bufotenine as the substance) and it still smells slightly of orange..but it also doesnt...whatever it is..has made the bufotenine way way way more pleasant to smoke...SWIM enjoys it immensely
it's a sound
 
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#33 Posted : 3/20/2009 4:44:55 AM

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excellent...
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#34 Posted : 3/20/2009 6:56:54 PM
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SWIM needs to locate a source in the United States for A. Columbria seeds which are good enough for this extraction, but has heard some shady things about Bouncing Bear's other products. Their seeds are relatively cheap, but that makes SWIM wonder if they are of poor quality.
 
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#35 Posted : 3/20/2009 7:11:54 PM

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SWIM's experience is that all vendors’ seeds vary in quality. The alkaloid content is apparently seasonal. The A. colubrina from Argentina are the best usually.

Some A. colubrina seeds have so much bufotenine in them that the ratio of bufotenine to toxins is so high that the toxins can't be felt. SWIM has had such seeds in the past. They were from Argentina.
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#36 Posted : 3/20/2009 7:27:22 PM

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get the variety cebil.
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#37 Posted : 3/21/2009 3:19:06 AM

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whats the normal price for the seeds. Is 5 seeds for 3.50 us reasonable.
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#38 Posted : 3/21/2009 3:30:32 AM

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hell no....
you can get them much much cheaper...
try icaro DNA...
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#39 Posted : 3/21/2009 5:42:51 AM

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LLB wrote:
hell no....
you can get them much much cheaper...
try icaro DNA...


They have no price listed for the seeds.
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#40 Posted : 3/21/2009 5:49:15 AM

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SWIM got his from BBB and is immensely disappointed by their bufotenine yield....very weak seeds.... would LOVE to find a vendor with high quality Vilca seeds if anyone cares to share....

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