I have a friend who's son gave him a toke of what he called DMT (one hit), well, he described the trip as like being in the Matrix on a motor bike which lasted for 6 hours, the first 20 mins being the most intense. WTFT ? I made him question his son and the son swears it was pure DMT extracted from MHRB. has anyone any ideas why this happened ? I have never tried DMT as I cannot get Lye here (so far) Could this be true ?

It would be the first report of a 6 hour smoked dose of DMT, therefore, I have trouble believing it's validity.

Unless, of course, he is referring to the after-glow effects. Those can last anywhere from .01 seconds to eternity.

It could very well be true... trips are never the same. Your friend may have "thought" it lasted 6 hours because time does not exist in hyperspace but I highly doubt that his journey lasted 6 hours.


Oh and you don't need lye to do an extraction. There are plenty of teks that don't use lye.. search around.

it does not sound like dmt to me..6 hr,s is not right.. maby it had grass in it and that part lasted 6 hr,s but not the smoked dmt.. imo

Is there the possibility that your friend takes medication such as an maoi? I believe that could make the experience last much longer as well, but six hours is pushing it.

Six hours does seem a little extreme, even being in hyperspace, i could not say i have got the feeling a being there six hours.

Did he smoke changa or something he must of had some maoi,for effects to come close to lasting that long.

maybe he was just exaggerating a little

I can choose to stay in hyperspace for as long as i want, you just have to control and keep your energy high.

Really!!?

I dont know any technical name for this, but there is something in the center of your brain which you can easily control when on DMT, It feels as if your pushing energy out of your eyes/eye, and when you do this, you can hear a magnetic pulsating sound and your visions will get stronger and stronger, you are then able to control where you travel using this power, i have even learned to fire light out of it and other strange things.

I have not touched DMT for about 3 months, I can still do this pulsating thing and everytime i do this, i start to see the darkness open up into light from the center of my inner minds vision.

That is why i think the idea behind this thread is easy to believe.

I think I know what you are referring to.

The act of looking up can actually be a trigger that ejects the soul. I've done this plenty of times. Has nothing to do with duration, though, even in a seemingly eternal void.

Thanks for elaborating on that.

my buddy used to extract it in the 90's and he has had trips where he would be gone for days apparently

Yeah it might be that he is taking pharmaceutical MAOI's.
A friend of mine uses them (Moclobemide) We checked out the safety of him using DMT and after we were satisfied it was safe I loaded up 20mg's (as he would experience much stronger effects) He was "gone" for at least an hour, he was not fully immersed for the last 30 minutes of the initial effects, but unable to fully get across what he was feeling apart from a huge grin and the occasional giggles. He had residual effects for at least 2-3 hours afterwards, at which time he promptly remarked that he would like to go again.

That was at least 4hrs worth of trip for him, and he is on a low dose of the MAOI daily.

Peace
PW

interesting

I've had this sensation of energy pushing out my eyes a few times, sometimes to the point where they will open and close rapidly but involuntarily. Once it was very intense and the energy was an enormous body load that then all moved like a liquid to my eyes and forehead. a being then came along and actually ripped the energy right out of my head..very intense. Ever since then i feel this pulsating thing in the center of my head, just behind my forehead, when meditating or just relaxing..especially if i've taken a little bit of harmalas or melatonin beforehand. Sometimes this leads to visions but usually it is much more like harmalas than dmt

Could you point me in the right direction, lazyman's Nornams and AB seem to require lye. Which ones do not. Thanks in advance

Well for starters I'm going to be trying Q21Q21's Vinegar/Lime A/B tek for my first ever extraction. No Lye. Try this tek and if you don't like that one there are a few floating around.

LMAO....

Teach us

@toppy

The area in the center of your head that you refer to is known as the Third Eye, and has been equated to the physical gland that resides there... the famous pineal gland.

When people get really high, the pineal gland can actually throb and pulse. It can also squeeze out a bewildering variety of really good brain chems. While it hasn't been proven that DMT is made there, it is the place that a number of other tryptamines are produced, and the building blocks for DMT are certainly present there. Perhaps if the brain is full of serotonin or melatonin, and the gland is sufficiently stimulated, it begins producing the more trippy varieties of indoles.

At any rate, mystics of every stripe have described the stuff you speak of. It is a pretty high state, and in the vedic yoga systems, the mudra to stimulate the pineal and propel one into a hyperspace trip is considered rather advanced. But, like most of those satoris and siddhis, these things can be stumbled upon accidentally, triggered by entheogen usage, awakened through intense meditation, or simply be an innate skill that some are naturally good at.

I don't think that everyone's pineal gland is in the same state of degenerative disuse as everyone else's. I find it quite plausible that you are able to activate yours consciously and use the higher functions of the third eye. Seeing that I have been able to stimulate my own third eye into gushing amrita (sacred nectar) into my mouth which was certainly tryptamine laden... as well as use my third eye to do some rather incredible things, I would certainly not be considered a skeptic on this subject, though.

Have you ever experienced this juicy saliva when your 3rd eye was pulsing?

Maybe you would care to elaborate on the methods you use to "control and keep your energy high?"

Be well fellow cosmic being.
HF

Am I reading this correctly? " I have even learned to fire light out of it and other strange things"?????
WTF! you can't possibly be serious. And if you are, I applaud your choice to lay off it for a while.

Peace