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#1 Posted : 10/25/2010 11:43:10 PM
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I've read at least 3 reports of people saying taking shrooms after having experimented with DMT is really incredible, has anyone here experienced this?

I've smoked DMT a few times now, one big session that was just way too much but thoroughly cleansing, and then another decent trip about a week after that, i really feel like DMT blew the doors of the hinges, so the doors have stayed open, unlike shrooms which would gently swing the doors of perception.

I'm very much looking forward to my next mushroom experience as the last year of meditation has been an incredible evolution and i feel like shrooms would be better suited to meditation as it's long & slow compared to vaped DMT, i'm really interested in what it's like after having tried DMT and of course feel free to share any experiences of taking a lil DMT while on shrooms!



 

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#2 Posted : 10/26/2010 12:10:28 AM

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psilocybin(4-PO-DMT) and dmt(nn-dmt) are similar molecular structures. they are both tryptamines and on the right doses mushrooms take on more and more dmt like characteristics. this is more noticeable for those who have smoked dmt and payed attention.

your comment about mushrooms "gently swinging the doors of perception" is very true until you get into 4-6g of mushrooms then i feel it can be much more intense like a tidal wave.

shrooms and dmt go pretty nicely together but i never had large doses of either the times i dabbled. it was a bit like nitrous oxide and shrooms but less fiendish. nitrous can be like crack.

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#3 Posted : 10/26/2010 6:34:39 PM
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I definitely felt the similarity between mushrooms & DMT although the peak of DMT was really incomparable to any mushroom experience i've had, but when you come back the visuals & feelings, the ability to meditate & channel energy are very similar to a high dose of shrooms, i remember thinking over & over its exactly like shrooms just condensed so the come up & peak are wild.

I used to love nitrous on shrooms but i eventually packed it in as it was taking away from the total experience of tripping, its much wiser i feel to meditate into the mushroom rather than keep trying to blast off, as the mushrooms more of a teacher, not so much of just a 'fun' thing if you know what i mean, if you treat it serious it will reward you, im still interested in smoking some changa on shrooms, that must be so incredible, i think i read someone here describe it as 'the holy grail of psychedelics'

 
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#4 Posted : 10/31/2010 11:11:03 AM

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I feel that DMT has tainted the mushroom experience for me. I need to write up a latest trip report. Essentially after having tried DMT a few times now my mushroom trips are much more like DMT trips and I don't like it....I'll take DMT when I want that.
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#5 Posted : 10/31/2010 11:31:24 AM
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It's effected multiple psychedelic experiences for me after experiencing DMT.

The few tryptamines I've tried all have a common feel to them, and it's easy to relate that feeling to DMT which holds the place in my mind as the king tryptamine.

One other thing I've noticed since experiencing DMT, is I've become more sensitive to all psychedelics and need less to get to the same position as before.
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#6 Posted : 10/31/2010 4:58:34 PM

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I definitely find mushrooms produce a more DMT like headspace after having experienced DMT. I like this though. I seldom use mushrooms these days, but when I do I travel far and deep. They are still my main allies however, DMT has not changed that.
 
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#7 Posted : 11/29/2010 2:55:44 PM

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I have found that after i tried dmt for the first time it was like a key to opening a floodgate. The gate can never be closed (or so it seems). It feels like a light switch was turned on. Since then i feel more in tune with myself, and i feel like I've gotten more out of my trips visually and spiritually, even without using spice in combination afterword. Also an increase in the thurst for knowledge came about almost imeadiately after.

Olympus, I think your right on track with the dose comment. Your average Joe prob wouldn't even think to eat a sufficient amount of mushrooms. The DMT seems to have served as a good navigation tool and key to recognising the simialrities.

Until i actually tried the higher doses, i had no clue what every one was talking about. DMT like visuals were under the radar.
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#8 Posted : 11/29/2010 5:23:28 PM

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..ok last time I took mushrooms I did notice this, and it was only a low dose..but it was more like after all the work I have done with DMT relaxing into the visuals and visions was just sort of a natural thing and I kept feeling in the moment as if I had just smoked..

However..DMT also reminded me alot of mushrooms at first..and I broke through with mushrooms at high doses many times before ever having DMT..I took mushrooms probly 150 times before ever having DMT so I had ample time to get there with them many times..they have always been very similar to DMT. I find DMT and mushrooms and the 2 most similar psychedelics I have worked with, yet I can work with them in different ways due to the method of ingestion.
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#9 Posted : 11/29/2010 10:25:46 PM
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I've yet to make some mushroom tea after having tried DMT, but i can say 100% im looking forward to my next mushroom trip more than i have looked forward to any other experience.
 
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#10 Posted : 12/12/2010 11:49:44 AM
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After last nights mushroom exploration i would definitely say that the DMT trips opened up the gates...

I dosed the mushrooms & once they fully took hold it was lights out music off, the come up was as expected with any entheogen, slightly rough on the egos control complexes/self images, then settling into a purifying vortex of bliss. At first i went full on with the mindfold mask/earplugs & i was able to meditate into the mushroom (vice/versa) watching the visuals vibrate increasingly faster exactly like on DMT, they would fragment/morph/multiply faster & faster the more intensely i meditated into the mushroom & let go, i felt it going very deeply inside purifying my mind/body relaxing it deeper & deeper, i totally felt it as medicine.

It was showing me how i don't control ANYTHING, then in the 'let go' of that realization i suddenly see/feel i'm in everything.
There was so much bliss the word happiness loses all meaning, you become bliss, there's no 'me' being happy, just bliss unto itself.

I now feel lights out or eyes closed is the most powerful & purifying way to experience the mushroom, to really let it go deep & do its work. The mindfold eyeshades were good as eyes open in pitch black dark gets an intensity of focus going that's incomparable to anything else, but after a while i had to rip out the earplugs & take off the eye mask as it just felt too inorganic. Simply closing eyes & meditating/relaxing is enough really, the more silent & dark the environment the better though, that's if you really wanna go into a total breakthrough space for hours.

Just as the peak was wearing off i decided to take some DMT, i couldn't feel anything at first, i was thinking 'where is that instant come up/blast off?'...

I found on the mushrooms the DMT comes from behind, it creeps up on me, its not so much a blast off, i'm already at a high vibration cause of the mushrooms so the DMT just slowly but surely picks up the pace of that vibration, until you dissolve/fragment into everything, in the peaks i saw morphing images of prima materia that morphs into eyes, mouths, ears, faces, hands, feet, basically anything consciousness can use to taste, feel, sense, experience, but it was all happening at once, all the experience possible in the infinity & eternity of being packed in one punch, DMT. LIFE.

I felt this trip in general was teaching me about vibration & letting go, realizing the true nature is the perfect pure space that holds to nothing.

I really loved the mushrooms & meditating into it, it was completely enough as it was like a DMT breakthrough, but only as long as i stayed focused & meditated, i felt it go just as deep as DMT, but it stayed there for longer.

All in all a really amazing trip.

 
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#11 Posted : 12/13/2010 7:18:25 PM
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I forgot to add, smoking caapi leaf on mushrooms does work, but i have to take huge tokes, i found the smoke very smooth & light though, perfect for when your tripping & feel like smoking something... i recommend powdering the leaf for both making changa & just plain smoking it... a word of caution, MAOI and psilocybin can be extremely intense so proceed with much respect.
 
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#12 Posted : 12/14/2010 8:44:46 PM

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I did mushrooms the day after an ayahuasca session and it was stronger than expected and really ayahuasca like..
 
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#13 Posted : 12/14/2010 10:07:42 PM

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It could be because of my age, but, I kinda doubt it. Shrooms have taken me on a much darker journey since my exposure to DMT. I dont do shrooms much if at all anymore because of the way they make me feel now. Yes DMT has changed the way I trip on shrooms.

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#14 Posted : 12/17/2010 4:07:41 PM
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I did feel the shrooms breakthrough to a DMT like trip, especially the visuals, those morphing multiplying fractals, but it wasn't a bad thing at all, if anything quite the opposite, i could say it felt darker at times but again not in a bad way, in a way that makes my mind push further into the trip. Sometimes that fear is a good thing, it means boundaries are being broken, limits are being pushed... ime that whats psychedelics are all about

I remember at the time saying to myself that DMT has definitely changed the mushroom experience since vaping it, but it really just meant i could take the mushroom vibration into a DMT level of vibration.
 
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#15 Posted : 12/17/2010 4:27:39 PM

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joedirt wrote:
I feel that DMT has tainted the mushroom experience for me. I need to write up a latest trip report. Essentially after having tried DMT a few times now my mushroom trips are much more like DMT trips and I don't like it....I'll take DMT when I want that.


The last time I tried a heavy dose of shrooms,(8/9)I found myself in hyperspace for quite a while, although with the flavor of a plant-spirit, if that makes any sense Razz
It was much darker, and I could sense/understand the nature of the structure of a lot of plants such as coconut trees and palms. For someone who never paid much attention to botany, it was all very fascinating.
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#16 Posted : 1/19/2011 9:20:10 PM
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Im pretty new to both shrooms(maybe 12 times, 2-4g each time) and spice(maybe 10 times, 20-40mg), my last trip about a month and a half ago on shrooms felt very much like the aftereffects of DMT.

When the visual other place goes out of focus because you are coming down, made me feel like i didnt take enough but i was still surprised at how far i got on 2g of cubes.

Maybe ive gotten more susceptible to shrooms after smoking DMT, dunno.
 
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#17 Posted : 1/20/2011 1:09:37 AM

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I have always loved mushrooms..they were my first and the way I feel about them after maybe 100-150+ experienes has not changed at all..other than I prob have more respect for them now than ever before..there was a period for about a year where i was drinking ayahuasca and smoking DMT alot and only had mushrooms maybe 2 times..but lately I have been dosing mushrooms once a week and ayhahuasca once a week..and I really really was missing those mushrooms..

Mushrooms teach me to laugh..to flow..they teach me humility and to see the odd cosmic humour in all situations..I love mushrooms to death and will take these little jesters to my grave..the mushroom is vast.. the mushroom is ancient..it is so far beyond this little womb we call earth yet intrinsic to it all the same..the ultimate fusion of organic and synthetic simultaniousily..this is how they flow..

Mushrooms actaully arent different after DMT for me...I just see it all mush more clearly now after DMT. DMT brings me home..to the centre..of what I dont know..with the mushrooms it was always there, just the ascent of the monkey body into hyperspace is aumented by the scenic route, of which can tend to allure one with its treasures along the way such that the actual moment of arrival takes a rain check..thats ok..there is alot to see on the way..

Mushrooms have always felt like oral DMT to me..and my first breakthrough was with mushrooms..a handful of cyanescenes..on par with anything smoked has thrown at me...never underestimate a full on dose of psilocybin to do that DMT thing.
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Interesting post as I want to see how shrooms work on me after my spice experiences

especially the total dark/eyes closed experience tempts me

a spiceoid friend of mine has done exactly this the other day and reported pretty intense DMT-like experiences for 2-3 hours!

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jamie wrote:
I have always loved mushrooms..they were my first and the way I feel about them after maybe 100-150+ experienes has not changed at all..other than I prob have more respect for them now than ever before..there was a period for about a year where i was drinking ayahuasca and smoking DMT alot and only had mushrooms maybe 2 times..but lately I have been dosing mushrooms once a week and ayhahuasca once a week..and I really really was missing those mushrooms..

Mushrooms teach me to laugh..to flow..they teach me humility and to see the odd cosmic humour in all situations..I love mushrooms to death and will take these little jesters to my grave..the mushroom is vast.. the mushroom is ancient..it is so far beyond this little womb we call earth yet intrinsic to it all the same..the ultimate fusion of organic and synthetic simultaniousily..this is how they flow..

Mushrooms actaully arent different after DMT for me...I just see it all mush more clearly now after DMT. DMT brings me home..to the centre..of what I dont know..with the mushrooms it was always there, just the ascent of the monkey body into hyperspace is aumented by the scenic route, of which can tend to allure one with its treasures along the way such that the actual moment of arrival takes a rain check..thats ok..there is alot to see on the way..

Mushrooms have always felt like oral DMT to me..and my first breakthrough was with mushrooms..a handful of cyanescenes..on par with anything smoked has thrown at me...never underestimate a full on dose of psilocybin to do that DMT thing.


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I feel like when I got into DMT, I hit a rough patch with mushrooms. It got dark and spooky, and somewhat paranoid. But mushrooms and I are back on track. I love those lil guys.Love


I smoked DMT on the come up of a mushroom trip once, and it was a pretty phenomenal trip. I definitely recommend. I need to do that again....
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