I was looking forward to test DMT in form on anahuasca, or well, just experiencing the anahuasca healing properties. I did what I thought it was going to be ok: 3x45 boils of 10 grams of chaliponga and 2x30 minutes boil of 3.7 grams of syrian rue. both of the brews had lemon and lemon essential oil. I also put some drops of mint essential oil in the syrian rue tea cause I know by experience that is so disgusting to taste. I started to drink the syrian rue tea and 25minutes later, when cleaning the garden I started to feel slight effects of the rue tea I starte drinking the chali reduction, it was very dense, thick and red/brownish, so bitter and acid (not bad compared to cactus resin)

From there I just expected anything to happen, I thought I wasn't really expecting a particular experience but later I realized that I really wanted a visual experience since I never had it with any substance in the past (not blown out visuals) and I read a lot about amazing imagery and transportation to another levels. Well, the fact is that secretly wanting that, I also welcome a lot whatever psychological or spiritual input that my mind would create under entheogens, I mean, is more important to me than just the fireworks and is the main reason why I use them. That doesn't mean that I really wanna experience visions, cause is kind of new for me and I thought ayahuasca/anahuasca has that particular mode of informing or teaching, so I thought it was going to be a good chance to have both interests filled.

What came in was very strange, I started feeling warm, but not specially pleasant, not like cactus or kratom warm, just like if I had warm in my chest and it was draining my warmness from other parts like toes or arms. Then I thought that I was going to purge cause the stomach disconfort was rising, then I thought:"ok, this is gonna start!!" but nothing happen, I didn't purge, I didn't have any diarrhea and I just feel so slow and weak for the next 2 hours. In some moments my vision became blurred and very sensitive to light, I closed my eyes for quite a long time and in some moments that I feel like a wave coming into my mind I had kind of a complex non-fractal images more like a fabric of watermark being pulled from myself, like something was tearing up a veil in my mind, the fabric was like white-grey and when that happent I felt some sound like a metallic vibration so soft and subtle but very clear and defined.

I think it was one of the best events of the experience, I had a strange headspace, everything was so alien and my mind was so still but nothing really hard-psychedelic, just odd. I could think properly and making questions, my mindset was a bit negative and so was my thoughts, about myself, but I had no answers, just questions that I already asked myself without any proper answer or insight, or well, maybe some insight that I just knew but neither applied properly. Later my gf call on the phone and I was talking with her, like normally, maybe more focused and understanding but also bit awkwardly cause I had no way to tell her that I was under the influence of chaliponga (we had a cactus trip in 4th of this month, and she has some irrational fear to ayahuasca). Then I had a shower and later went to the pc, affected but close to baseline, to know what could have happent.

I read in some forums and well, there's people feeling not so much in their first experiences, also I read about a guy that didn't feel a thing with the san pedro ritual, then he asked about it to the shaman and the shaman told him that he was a happy person that just didn't need a cure or experience, cause he was a whole already. Then I had an ego-boost thinking that maybe it was my cause, but to be honest, later I thought it was a bit condescending and just to confort me for my relative failure.

I did this brew so close to the cactus experience because I live in a place where my relatives are going to be in the next weeks and I don't have a lot of time in the next weeks also due to working schedule. So I thought that it could have been the best moment, I think I didn't do anything wrong with the brew, I have an almost vegan diet, I drink coffee but not so much, I avoided tyramine for the most. I can only think on two reasons for it to have failed: I used cactus, kratom and an RC stimulant the days before so well... not so well done, I know. The second reason could be that the rue and the chali leaves were bunk, it can be cause the vendor is one of the biggest in EU and I think they just cannot handle to source good material for such a big demand they probably have.

At least I know more or less how is to be under chali influence and what to change the next time, less substances beforehand and a better, more specific vendor.
Thanks for reading! and happy trails!

The road to hyperspace is paved with misses. Keep on going and have a positive outlook. Much love and thnx for the report=)

Next time encapsulate the ground up/powdered Rue seed rather than making it into a tea. Take the capsules, and 30 minutes to an hour later drink the Chali tea, should work.

Thanks both of you for your words and advice, I'll do grinding my seeds next time, the problem is I live in a place where packages don't reach easily but well, I can wait some months till that or someone that could send it to me certified.
I know that hyperspace is not like clicking a button and that's it. I should try patiently another time, I didn't consider the experience bad or useless, just a bit frustrating because it seemt incomplete, like something about to happen and eventually unfilled. The sensation everytime was quite profound, like a psychological purgatory where I was seeing myself as an observer and a patient at the same time.
I'll try again whenever I can and report back!

I think it is unlikely that your rue preparation is the issue considering you felt the effects with a procedure similar to what has worked for many others (myself included). Perhaps it would be better to take that ShamensStamen's advice anyways though, particularly if you don't like the taste.

Good luck!

Well the reason i suggested the capsules is because liquid is absorbed and processed quicker in the stomach/gut whereas capsules (even of purified Harmala extract) seem to i guess maybe be released in a different part of the gut, so the tea may not inhibit gut MAO-A as long as what taking capsules would, i don't know that for sure as i haven't worked with Harmalas in liquid form but a few times, but it's worth taking into consideration imo that liquid is absorbed faster or in like the first part of the gut compared to capsules, and as such may make it more difficult to find the right timing of when to take the DMT-containing plant. Capsules have always been consistent for me, i pretty much have gut MAO-A inhibition from 30 minutes in to about an hour and a half in, so about an hour of total gut inhibition duration, before or after that doesn't seem to work as well, but with liquid, could be much shorter, say 10 to 15 to 20 minutes between, i'm not sure.

Ah, that's interesting. Taking the rue tea 10 minutes before the DMT seems to work (+ a little food after the DMT to stimulate digestion). Maybe not ideal though.