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JKW
#1 Posted : 4/3/2019 10:58:23 PM

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Hmmm... My last two trips were pretty dark. Nothing that scared me, but very monotone and dark and kind of ugly to be perfectly honest. It was almost as if the DMT didn't want me to take it, at least that's how it felt while I was there.

There were there dark waves of matter undulating. No sign the the entity I normally encounter. However, I did ask if that was her. No answer.

Very weird. Never had this experience before. My DMT trips have always been very strange, but pleasant and colorful.
 

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#2 Posted : 4/4/2019 1:00:05 AM

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This can happen sometimes I’ve never been able coralate any
consistent cause . I’ve had it happen even under the best of circumstances . Burning it can definitely cause issues but beyond that it’s a mystery to me .
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Th Entity
#3 Posted : 4/4/2019 6:50:06 AM

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It was almost as if the DMT didn't want me to take it, at least that's how it felt while I was there.


Soo.. why don't you follow your intuition and take a break?
A break is always a good thing, cant go wrong.

And why are you using it recreationally (to just get high) instead of trying to improve your self through self exploration? Thats clearly the case to me (my opinion) since you aim to have bright colorfull, funny, euphoric..etc. experiences. Most people don't achieve insight/enlightenment while playing in the park or watching cinema, but from terrible/terrifying "ugly" life experiences, very traumatic ones, like war, death..etc.

Good Luck
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JKW
#4 Posted : 4/4/2019 1:51:28 PM

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Th Entity wrote:
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It was almost as if the DMT didn't want me to take it, at least that's how it felt while I was there.


Soo.. why don't you follow your intuition and take a break?
A break is always a good thing, cant go wrong.

And why are you using it recreationally (to just get high) instead of trying to improve your self through self exploration? Thats clearly the case to me (my opinion) since you aim to have bright colorfull, funny, euphoric..etc. experiences. Most people don't achieve insight/enlightenment while playing in the park or watching cinema, but from terrible/terrifying "ugly" life experiences, very traumatic ones, like war, death..etc.

Good Luck
Cya around the Nexus!
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Why do you assume I use it recreationally?
I only made a comparison between coloration between these two last trips, and the trips before.

Cya around,
J
 
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#5 Posted : 4/4/2019 5:56:45 PM

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Happened to me before.

Take a break Smile
 
JKW
#6 Posted : 4/4/2019 6:10:10 PM

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Happened to me before.

Take a break Smile


I guess...
 
TGO
#7 Posted : 4/4/2019 6:42:31 PM

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What is wrong with using DMT in a recreational manner, or any psychedelic for that matter? Is it wrong to have fun? I mean, psychedelics are pretty whacky to begin with so I think it is a bit presumptuous to say that DMT can/should only be used "this way" or "that way." There really is no rule book. As long as one approaches the molecule with respect, who has the right to say how it should be used beyond that? Who draws that line for everyone else?

In my experience, it is a powerful, unpredictable substance that tends to have a self-correcting effect on people. Abuse or careless neglect often leads to terrifying hyperslaps, which generally act as a bit of a wake up call for the user. Happened to me many times before I quit drinking alcohol (with the help of DMT, btw).

My point is this: there is a time and place for all approaches. Recreational use does not automatically equal abuse and the spiritual/improve yourself approach doesn't automatically bring about change, enlightenment, or anything special. They all require additional work from the user before any real magic happens. Sometimes having fun is all one needs. Sometimes a deeper approach is warranted. Both are equally valid and should be explored, in my humble opinion.



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JKW
#8 Posted : 4/4/2019 7:18:11 PM

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TGO wrote:
What is wrong with using DMT in a recreational manner, or any psychedelic for that matter? Is it wrong to have fun? I mean, psychedelics are pretty whacky to begin with so I think it is a bit presumptuous to say that DMT can/should only be used "this way" or "that way." There really is no rule book. As long as one approaches the molecule with respect, who has the right to say how it should be used beyond that? Who draws that line for everyone else?

In my experience, it is a powerful, unpredictable substance that tends to have a self-correcting effect on people. Abuse or careless neglect often leads to terrifying hyperslaps, which generally act as a bit of a wake up call for the user. Happened to me many times before I quit drinking alcohol (with the help of DMT, btw).

My point is this: there is a time and place for all approaches. Recreational use does not automatically equal abuse and the spiritual/improve yourself approach doesn't automatically bring about change, enlightenment, or anything special. They all require additional work from the user before any real magic happens. Sometimes having fun is all one needs. Sometimes a deeper approach is warranted. Both are equally valid and should be explored, in my humble opinion.





Thank you. That's a perfectly fine opinion.
 
Th Entity
#9 Posted : 4/4/2019 8:29:53 PM

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Actually you are both right, i'm sorry for being rude, and im sorry for the inappropriate comment from earlier.

JKW im sorry if my comment offended you!

P.S. - I must of been pissed off or something..dunno!
 
JKW
#10 Posted : 4/4/2019 11:02:38 PM

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Th Entity wrote:
Actually you are both right, i'm sorry for being rude, and im sorry for the inappropriate comment from earlier.

JKW im sorry if my comment offended you!

P.S. - I must of been pissed off or something..dunno!



It's all cool, man.
 
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#11 Posted : 4/5/2019 7:55:11 AM

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Totalt agree with tgo. Also dropped alkohol after being getting a wake up call from The Molecule
 
JKW
#12 Posted : 4/5/2019 10:10:54 PM

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I know I should be taking a break, but today I felt the call of DMT; and decided to go with my instinct come what may.

I kept the flame farther away from the pipe this time, and received a pleasant vapor, which I barely felt.
After two tokes, I barely had a chance to put down the pipe, before I launched into hyperspace.

The entity was back. So beautiful, so comforting, so familiar. I found myself constantly talking to it during the the trip, thanking her for such a beautiful experience.

I could tell she was back at the start of the trip, as this impossible geometry took her form. She proceeded to guide me though things that as you well know, language cannot describe.

In any case, I came back blissful and thankful. This is the best antidepressant there is for me. My eyes were tearing from the emotion caused by all that beauty.

I think I was possibly burning the DMT before. Still finessing the technique.

Thanks for listening, guys, as well as your input.

J

 
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#13 Posted : 4/6/2019 9:48:43 AM

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Excellent!
I remember a group of people was saying that DMT oxide was responsible for some peoples dark trips, and that could be the reason in this case because of direct flame? What was the source (whcih plant rb) the DMT was extracted from, could it be trace amounts of 5-meo-dmt?

Once again excuse me about my earlier comment JKW, it was inappropriate and rude, if you want i can remove it. But this is part of why i love the Nexus, because when i write some bullshit, i got my bullshit detectors here and they (you Nexians) will always tell me when im wrong, so thank you!

Cya
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JKW
#14 Posted : 4/6/2019 2:14:39 PM

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Th Entity wrote:
Excellent!
I remember a group of people was saying that DMT oxide was responsible for some peoples dark trips, and that could be the reason in this case because of direct flame? What was the source (whcih plant rb) the DMT was extracted from, could it be trace amounts of 5-meo-dmt?

Once again excuse me about my earlier comment JKW, it was inappropriate and rude, if you want i can remove it. But this is part of why i love the Nexus, because when i write some bullshit, i got my bullshit detectors here and they (you Nexians) will always tell me when im wrong, so thank you!

Cya
Very happy



Thank you Entity. I really don't know about the source.
It's all cool. I don't take things personally.
 
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#15 Posted : 4/6/2019 3:45:58 PM

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[/quote]

I really don't know about the source.

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I encourage you to pull your own spice. Tis one of the most empowering experiences to blast into hyperspace with spice you worked from the plants with your own two hands.
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You need to hit it with intention to get where you want to be!

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"We have arrived at truth, and now we find truth is a mystery- a play of joy, creation, and energy. This is source. This is the mystic touchstone that heals and renews. This is the beginning again. This is entheogenic." -Nicholas Sand
 
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#16 Posted : 4/6/2019 4:11:20 PM

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Tony6Strings wrote:




I really don't know about the source.



I encourage you to pull your own spice. Tis one of the most empowering experiences to blast into hyperspace with spice you worked from the plants with your own two hands. [/quote]

[/quote]

I've been considering that.
 
JKW
#17 Posted : 4/6/2019 6:10:29 PM

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Newbie question:

Are the techs for MHRB and Acacia Confusa the same?
 
TGO
#18 Posted : 4/6/2019 7:17:57 PM

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JKW wrote:
Newbie question:

Are the techs for MHRB and Acacia Confusa the same?


The answer is both yes and no. Extra steps are often included in Acacia confusa extractions.

A quick heads up on posting etiquette:

Here at the Nexus, we expect members to do at least a little digging on their own. This is because questions tend to be asked and answered over and over which leads to repetitive forum clutter. A quick search through the forum will reveal many threads about your question and other related discussions. Please check out this link in the Attitude page for more information.

If you have never extracted before and want to learn the basics, reading through the entire FAQ is probably the best place to start. When you are done with that, I'd recommend exploring the WIKI page which lays out the various extraction methods among other useful information. The Nexus is loaded with all the resources and information needed for one to begin learning how to extract. You just have to look around and explore a bit. It can seem daunting at first, but once you get the hang of it, the concepts become clear.

But please don't get me wrong. I don't want this post to come across as me saying, "Don't ask questions!" What I am saying is to have a search first, read some threads, digest some material, and check to see if your question has already been answered before posting. If it hasn't been answered or it still isn't clear, then by all means, ask away! We are all here to help each other after all.

Congrats on your promotion to full member, by the way!

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Th Entity
#19 Posted : 4/6/2019 7:33:47 PM

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Hey!

I will provide you with some interesting threads here on the nexus that exlpain the general idea behind A/B extractions.

To answear you question first: YES! Laughing Generally teks arent different between MHRB and ACRB or any other plant material, the only difference is from additional steps (like defating, which is removing plant fats/oils so you get crystals instead of waxy/oily DMT) ACRB generally contains more fats/oils than MHRB thats why when using ACRB teks incluce defat.
Other variations between different teks are: NaCL salting, mini A/Bs, backsalting, sodium bi/carb wash, evap vs freeze percip..etc.

Most teks are based on the Acid/Base extraction process, so before choosing any tek i suggest you learn basic chemistry its really fun acutally.

The Chemistry of Extraction
Art of Liquid-Liquid extraction The Basics

If you have any questions what so ever, you can always ask me (PM) or ask here on the forum but like TGO suggested, before making any threads, read and research please, so we dont spam the forum with the same questions, every question you have is probabbly covored already so search and learn.
 
JKW
#20 Posted : 4/7/2019 2:07:14 PM

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TGO wrote:
JKW wrote:
Newbie question:

Are the techs for MHRB and Acacia Confusa the same?


The answer is both yes and no. Extra steps are often included in Acacia confusa extractions.

A quick heads up on posting etiquette:

Here at the Nexus, we expect members to do at least a little digging on their own. This is because questions tend to be asked and answered over and over which leads to repetitive forum clutter. A quick search through the forum will reveal many threads about your question and other related discussions. Please check out this link in the Attitude page for more information.

If you have never extracted before and want to learn the basics, reading through the entire FAQ is probably the best place to start. When you are done with that, I'd recommend exploring the WIKI page which lays out the various extraction methods among other useful information. The Nexus is loaded with all the resources and information needed for one to begin learning how to extract. You just have to look around and explore a bit. It can seem daunting at first, but once you get the hang of it, the concepts become clear.

But please don't get me wrong. I don't want this post to come across as me saying, "Don't ask questions!" What I am saying is to have a search first, read some threads, digest some material, and check to see if your question has already been answered before posting. If it hasn't been answered or it still isn't clear, then by all means, ask away! We are all here to help each other after all.

Congrats on your promotion to full member, by the way!

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Noted.


I had no idea I had been promoted, thanks!
 
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