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#1 Posted : 12/5/2018 9:13:05 PM

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I've tried to search about performing the ipomoea LSA extraction going straight to the ethanol step, skipping the naptha altogether. Does anyone have any insight into this shortcut?
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#2 Posted : 12/5/2018 9:28:54 PM

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not using ipomea but Argyreia nervosa. The simpliest way is to do a cold water extraction.
Results are said great by ppl, it cost almost nothing (a pinch of water).
You can go straight with ethanol too.
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#3 Posted : 12/5/2018 9:58:10 PM

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Sure, I'm glad to hear it, but why not Ipomoea?
It seems that many methods mention Ipomoea as a substitute as long as you use the right amount of seeds. Should I be wary?
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#4 Posted : 12/5/2018 11:35:18 PM

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you can use ipomea, i just don't have access to it than argyreia Thumbs up
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#5 Posted : 12/6/2018 12:25:09 AM

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I've noticed that a dose is just a dozen, or so, seeds as opposed to >100 for the Ipomoea. You sound like you've sourced it more than once. Is your favorite supplier listed in the "Sustainable Suppliers" section?
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#6 Posted : 12/6/2018 8:02:21 AM

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I just grow Argyreia and some friends have too, so easier sourcing Thumbs up

You should grow it as until 1year it starts flowering, then seeding.

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#7 Posted : 12/6/2018 9:02:56 AM
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You should grow it as until 1year it starts flowering, then seeding.


You're probably one of the few ones, who luckily lives in a corresponding climate zone, as Argyreia Nervosa is quite delicate regarding temps, and as a pot plant it's root-bound, so unless you have an incredible big pot, they won't flower.

But I personally still prefer Ipomoea Tricolor, as it has a purer profile and because it's basically impossible to get fresh Argyreia Nervosa, where I live...
Also as dwh said, even if you do just a CWE it doesn't really matter anymore how many seeds you need.

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I've tried to search about performing the ipomoea LSA extraction going straight to the ethanol step, skipping the naptha


Well IMHO it wouldn't make much sense, then I would rather do a CWE, as less stuff is soluble in it.

Instead of a naptha wash, you can also do a vegetable oil soak, if you like.

The seeds do contain ambiphilic glycosides (non-cyanogenic), meaning they are fat and water soluble. So by first doing a fat wash, they will get out, as well as other stuff, like fats. As the ergolines are in a non-lipophilic form, they should stay.

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#8 Posted : 12/7/2018 10:20:29 PM

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OK, Very Well, I have a good grasp of it now.
Thanks for all the input.
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