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light quanta
#1 Posted : 11/18/2018 3:07:18 AM

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Ok so I have been using DMT since August 2018. When I first started using it for like the first month or so I was using it all the time. There were a couple nights where I would break through 2-3 times in a night. I had not yet realized the significant messages that it was capable of showing me. So I continued on using DMT just enjoying the fantastical journeys it was taking me on. It was just like something was ripping me from my body and showing me grand visions. There was one trip specifically where I watched myself disintegrate until I viewed what I could only describe as the essence that makes me human.

Anyways to continue on after about a month of tripping quite heavily and often I started to encounter some issues. I started to not be able to trip anymore, only sub break through experiences. At this time what I first tried was to change my smoking method. In the beginning I was using the sandwich method with weed and a bong. Then I made the machine. Which led to a few powerful breakthrough experiences. But after a few trips I was back at the state of only sub break through experiences. So one night I decided that I was going to mix the three different DMT I had. By that I mean DMT I had extracted from Acacia, Mexican Mimosa, and Brazilian Mimosa. I put 70 mg on the machine and away I went. So before I continue on let me clarify that during all my other breakthroughs, at this point to be around 40, it was more like a journey I would piece back together once the journey had ended.

During these breakthroughs it was like I was never able to make decisions where I was just like I was being shown things and later piece them together. So back to after I hit 70 mg on the machine. After I took only 1 good hit I set the machine down and all of a sudden I was in a black void and this being of light grabbed me by the face and said " I know you can see me, let's go" and we were suddenly flying through space and were suddenly above what was obviously a school. I am 27 and for 2 years now have gotten over a major stimulant addiction and this past fall went back to school. Anyways we were flying around this school just seeing images of anything you could relate to school and all I could hear was "Focus, Focus" as if it were telling me to focus on school. Which since then I have put forth 500% towards. Then all of the sudden I was in this space where I could see hundreds of copies of myself moving all around at extreme speeds, doing all sorts of tasks at high speeds.

At this point was the first time in hyperspace I was able to be aware that I was tripping and could communicate back so I said "I need to slow down" and all these copies of myself stopped and looked at me and through their arms and said "YES!!" So I have always been a speedy person, talk fast, think fast, do everything fast. So I believed this to be telling me at a very deep degree to slow down. So after this I take a break for a couple weeks and really try to implement what it was teaching me. I begin doing kundalini yoga every morning and really begin to slow my mind down in everything that I do. The more I go on the deeper I realize that message was speaking to me. So after a couple weeks I begin tripping again. I have a few good breakthrough experiences, and this is for the first time I encounter this girl. She looks just like a regular female human, but not one that I have ever met in this physical reality and the first time we meet we are in this indescribable room in front of this box. She keeps taking these balls of light out of the box and handing them to me and says every time she does,"here you need this" and I would respond "ok" and nothing more really happens and stop again for a couple weeks.

I then proceed to make my first batch of changa. Like I said all my breakthroughs except for that one I mentioned specifically, they were like journeys I was shown to be pieced back together afterward. But my roommate was having very conscious and aware experiences while in hyperspace. I had read that changa created a more immersive experience so I went ahead and tried it. My first breakthrough on changa I meet that girl again. We were in a similar room to the one I met here before but we were walking together and she just kept repeating " You're just moving too fast you need to slow down, you're moving too fast you need to slow down" and that was the majority of the trip. So this was the second time I had a message from hyperspace telling me to slow down, and the second time I have encountered this same girl. So I again wait about 10 days before I tripped again and I posted about this trip because this trip was different from every other trip I have had. In that post I claim it to be my first "real" hyperspace experience because it was the first time I was consciously aware of where I was the whole time and I was able to make conscious decisions. So then that brings me to tonight.

I tripped on Changa 9 days after my previous trip. I set out two doses the same as before. But as soon as I inhale the the first dose I knew it was going to be intense. But it wasn't like a full blown breakthrough. But that girl was there again. In the corner of the room she was saying in what was definitely an annoyed tone of voice, "what are you doing? You need to slow down. You're going too fast. You were going to do two? What is wrong with you? You need to slow down. And I came out of it feeling like I had done something wrong. So now I believe that what it was telling me was to not only slow down with my mind and my life but also with DMT. Any input into these experiences is welcomed. Thank you for reading

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#2 Posted : 11/18/2018 3:31:45 AM

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Wall of text - please insert paragraph breaks. My eyes hurt.

Will read when reformatted, all the best, thanks.




“There is a way of manipulating matter and energy so as to produce what modern scientists call 'a field of force'. The field acts on the observer and puts him in a privileged position vis-à-vis the universe. From this position he has access to the realities which are ordinarily hidden from us by time and space, matter and energy. This is what we call the Great Work."
― Jacques Bergier, quoting Fulcanelli
 
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#3 Posted : 11/18/2018 3:40:29 AM

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Thanks for the advice. Still new. Hope that is better
 
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#4 Posted : 11/18/2018 6:26:12 AM

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It seems like she doesn't want you to keep advancing into what you're trying to aim for. I don't know the reason because of this, you think if you tried to ask her she will tell you?
 
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#5 Posted : 11/18/2018 3:22:20 PM

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That is definitely a good view towards, and this is definitely something worth trying. But my plan is to take off for 30 days before I trip again. If it happens again then I think you may be right, and I should try specifically asking her what she means. You have sparked my curiosity though.
 
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#6 Posted : 11/18/2018 4:41:00 PM

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Take as much time as you need. Trips aren't something you should rush, maybe that's what she is trying to tell you. But yeah I'd just straight up ask her why I can't advance further.
 
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#7 Posted : 11/18/2018 5:05:03 PM

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I think the message is shown to you. Seeing all these copies of yourself moving around at high speed, it cannot be made more clear. You are the hunter and the prey at the same time. You don’t have to ask the girl. You should not make a voyage before you have fully integrated the previous one. Be patient, it is a virtue.

You say it yourself ‘There were a couple of nights where I would break through 2 - 3 times in a night’. Your tripping frequency is too high.

Quiet the mind and the soul will speak
 
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#8 Posted : 11/18/2018 7:14:56 PM

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That is my plan to take some time from it , but in a very big way I am also pretty sure that its telling me I need to have more control over my mind to not let it constantly be racing. And while I am putting forth much conscious effort into this, you're right when you say I haven't fully integrated it. I guess only working on it is not far enough. I need to become one with my thoughts and not let them run rampantly before continuing on.
 
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#9 Posted : 11/18/2018 7:57:42 PM

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When you do decide to trip again let me know how it goes.
 
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#10 Posted : 11/18/2018 8:37:53 PM

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Do you have any preference if smoking acrb, Brazilian, or Mexican barks? All 3 at once sounds very intriguing to me.
 
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#11 Posted : 11/18/2018 9:00:48 PM

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I will absolutely update when I decide to trip again, as for the preference with the barks I personally feel they all have their own unique experiences it is hard to explain but I definitely feel there is a difference in all three. The biggest difference I can say for sure is I feel like Mimosa is more introspective than ACRB and personally feel Brazilian to be more warm and welcoming over the Mexican not to say the Mexican is bad just different. But hhmm as for a preference I couldn't really say. Depends on what I'm looking for at the time. But yeah if you get a chance to mix them all together definitely worth the experience. My roommate who also mixed them all and had a very powerful and vision filled message with his as well. Again I have not been traveling very long but in my short time I have those are definitely the feelings I have towards them and their differences.
 
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#12 Posted : 11/20/2018 10:07:05 AM

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Quote:
"what are you doing? You need to slow down. You're going too fast. You were going to do two? What is wrong with you? You need to slow down. And I came out of it feeling like I had done something wrong. So now I believe that what it was telling me was to not only slow down with my mind and my life but also with DMT. Any input into these experiences is welcomed. Thank you for reading


Firstly, I can only project thoughts from my personal POV. And so do you.
Where from I deduce any personal projection to be a personal projection and not anything separate and real. Like the girl - you projected her. Her asking, what are you doing is actually you asking yourself what are you doing. You thinking that you're going too fast, is because you want to stop the intense trip. Well, at least that's what I want as soon as the molecule takes and rips me to shreds.

As soon as I exhale it, I know there's no coming back. You know the survival sensation, that you might get saved yet by medics or anything else outside yourself? That there's help? DMT takes that hope away. You know that nothing can be done to take you back but the sense of ticking time moving forwards, measured in inhales and exhales. I can't think about this substance without goosebumps or butterflies in my stomach.

I want DMT to stop every time all the time, but somehow with every trip I learn to negate that notion immediately. I have survived it the last times I did it, hence, I can't be dead while possessed by it now Very happy Maybe you can refocus yourself into drawing while at it, for instance? Art might be the cure if you saw a projection of your own fear.
 
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#13 Posted : 11/20/2018 8:21:22 PM

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Your recollection is pretty awesome. I cannot remember the details of what goes on in the hyperspace it is like a fleeting dream that I can cling to the parts of and gather some general feeling but not quite any specifics.
 
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#14 Posted : 12/3/2018 1:01:55 AM

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Ground Syrian rue, extracted with acid and recrystallized with salt a few times will go a long way toward slowing down your trips. There's a refractory period of several hours while your body gets its serotonin tolerance back down to normal, which is probably why you find it hard to break through when you try repeatedly.

You have to take the fluorescent harmaline extract half an hour before you smoke. It's much easier to purify than spice, but remember the MAOI is the part of ayahuasca that causes purging. Fast for 12 hours first, and don't drink water beforehand either.

You're doing well with our visitors if you have already experienced clear spoken words in your language. Lots of people never get past the spooky images. It sounds to me like the entities have decided to go easy on you, and they've given you good (if cryptic) advice.

If you want to get further with the little guys, I recommend finding a stable plateau and grilling them back. I love reminding them that they're aliens, not demons (they've told me both things, but only one makes sense to me). They can get very distraught, which I count as a win, especially if it encourages them to make the colors swim around.

Stable plateaux of altered states are useful, and Spice isn't the only thing that makes the legendary "hyperspace" appear. My thoughts on alternative methods aren't popular around here, but you can check my back post history if you're curious.

For the record, stress is bad for the health. Try some chamomile tea for a calming evening brew. Rhododendron flowers also make a nice tea when spring rolls around.

I picked up the rhody tea trick from Guess Who during an unusually lucid moment. It's the same stuff the legendary Himalayan hallucinogenic honey is made from. Very mild closed-eye visuals, like a low dose of P. cubensis.
 
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#15 Posted : 12/3/2018 5:01:58 PM

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You need to slow down, seriously. She was right. Elf, alien, or a subconscious part of you, you should listen to her and slow the fuck down. If you need to up your dose because you're getting tolerant, you're abusing. Seriously. They call it "drug abuse", but you're really abusing yourself. Take a hint. Slow down.

I got a similar warning from shrooms once, and it was good advice.

light quanta wrote:
You were going to do two? What is wrong with you?

It's as if she was taking words out of my mouth. Don't do two. Not like this. Do two when you're not tolerant, when you're not running from or toward anything, when you just know that you need to do two. But not like this. Never like this.
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#16 Posted : 12/3/2018 6:47:35 PM

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Looks like I said I'd reply when the post was reformatted. It's good to see that it's now much more readable and, by chance, has resurfaced, so...

How's it going? Have you reduced your intake? Are you successfully adjusting to having a slower pace of life overall? It's not only the integration between trips that we need to appreciate but also the basic self-care of not completely ragging ourselves, pedal-to-the-metal, 24/7.

It sounds like your approach to DMT was initially very similar to the way you had previously been using stimulants. This is hardly surprising, given the cultural context the average person will have for using something like DMT.

Stay well, be kind to you.




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#17 Posted : 12/3/2018 8:23:13 PM

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Wow thanks for everyone's responses I really appreciate it. But that is the main focus I have in my life right now is trying to gain better control of my mind but slowing it down. Being more in control of all the thoughts that enter my mind, and decide which ones I want and the ones I do not. So obviously I have not tripped since I have posted this I am probably going to be waiting a month or two before I do again. It is definitely a very conscious daily effort to slow your mind down, much more involved than I originally thought.
 
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#18 Posted : 12/3/2018 8:24:59 PM

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Beatriz wrote:
Ground Syrian rue, extracted with acid and recrystallized with salt a few times will go a long way toward slowing down your trips. There's a refractory period of several hours while your body gets its serotonin tolerance back down to normal, which is probably why you find it hard to break through when you try repeatedly.


This is really interesting. I haven't read anything about this, I am definitely going to be giving this some experimentation. Thanks
 
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light quanta wrote:
Beatriz wrote:
Ground Syrian rue, extracted with acid and recrystallized with salt a few times will go a long way toward slowing down your trips.

This is really interesting. I haven't read anything about this, I am definitely going to be giving this some experimentation. Thanks

It's called Pharmahuasca. Harmala alkaloids are MAO inhibitors. They inhibit the breakdown of DMT in your body, and thus give you a stronger and longer trip. They also make DMT orally active, hence the role of Syrian rue in modern Ayahuasca-analog brews.

That said, adding a backburner to your DMT use is probably the wrong advice for your life situation. Add the backburner once you have control. It is my advice to aim first for a short while without, and once you use DMT again, try to rest at least a week between two trips. That should help you develop control over your drug use.
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#20 Posted : 12/31/2018 3:04:25 AM
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light quanta wrote:
Wow thanks for everyone's responses I really appreciate it. But that is the main focus I have in my life right now is trying to gain better control of my mind but slowing it down. Being more in control of all the thoughts that enter my mind, and decide which ones I want and the ones I do not. So obviously I have not tripped since I have posted this I am probably going to be waiting a month or two before I do again. It is definitely a very conscious daily effort to slow your mind down, much more involved than I originally thought.


I have the feeling you are focusing on the wrong thing. It's not your speed of thought that is concerning the girl but the frequency you visiting her is imho.
 
 
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