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Aum_Shanti
#1 Posted : 5/18/2017 3:29:16 PM
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I just wanted to add this, as IMHO it seems many people, especially english speaking are not aware of this:

Hofmann himself actually wanted to name his famous book "LSD mein Wunderkind" (LSD my Wonder Child). But the publisher didn't like the title, as they were afraid people would think Hofmann saw his substance in a positive way and so would give them a bad reputation (as this was already the time, LSD got bad reputation). So the publisher forced him to use the title "LSD mein Sorgenkind" ("LSD my Problem Child" ).
I claim not that this is the truth. As this is just what got manifested into my mind at the current position in time on this physical plane. So please feel not offended by anything I say.
 

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#2 Posted : 7/10/2017 6:17:27 PM

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Thanks for the notice, thats actually quite intersting Smile
 
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#3 Posted : 5/12/2018 7:59:36 PM

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Somewhat shocked I didnt know this one. Thanks for the reasonably insightful nugget of information Thumbs up Now that you mention it it really doesnt make sense that he would have considered it a "problem child".

Years ago me and some friends joked that the term "problem child" was more expressive of the qualities and behavioral effects resulting from the use of cocaine.
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neb
#4 Posted : 7/7/2018 8:27:34 PM

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do you have any sources?
 
downwardsfromzero
#5 Posted : 7/13/2018 9:33:19 PM

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neb wrote:
do you have any sources?

No sourcing talk!

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Yeah, some kind of confirmation for this assertion would lend it some more weight - even if it does make sense.
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“To be GOVERNED is to be watched, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, regulated, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, checked, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right nor the wisdom nor the virtue to do so. To be GOVERNED is to be at every operation, at every transaction noted, registered, counted, taxed, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, authorized, admonished, prevented, forbidden, reformed, corrected, punished. It is, under pretext of public utility, and in the name of the general interest, to be place under contribution, drilled, fleeced, exploited, monopolized, extorted from, squeezed, hoaxed, robbed; then, at the slightest resistance, the first word of complaint, to be repressed, fined, vilified, harassed, hunted down, abused, clubbed, disarmed, bound, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot, deported, sacrificed, sold, betrayed; and to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, derided, outraged, dishonored. That is government; that is its justice; that is its morality."
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Aum_Shanti
#6 Posted : 7/14/2018 9:02:05 AM
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Unfortunately not in scripture. But AFAIK he once mentioned this in one of his talks. There are at least some people, often going to his talks and having had sometimes a chat afterwards (e.g. he every now and then gave talks at the Basler University, where you could sometimes talk to him personally afterwards), who claimed that he said this. And honestly, as I get the impression from Hofmann, it seems likely to me.

I just regret not having met him, had many many opportunities for this. But this was the time, I wasn't anymore much interested in the topic, and too busy with mind stuff in my study...

But some of my old trip-friends met him during this time. As they said, a very nice humble and sympathetic man, which was still clear minded despite his age.


But No, I have no prove!

I should have mentioned that earlier.
I claim not that this is the truth. As this is just what got manifested into my mind at the current position in time on this physical plane. So please feel not offended by anything I say.
 
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#7 Posted : 7/14/2018 10:56:39 AM

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Thanks.

With some luck, someone will see this thread and be able to dig out something from one of the talks you mention - there must be some kind of documentation somewhere!
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#8 Posted : 7/14/2018 5:18:27 PM

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hmmmh, there is an interview where he says that at 0ne(1) point it became his troublesome child since there was/is an uncanny landmass with a reckless ppl, some of which gave it away to simply "everyboday" including non adult ppl with little or no maturity, little or no reference points in Life, no landing space for integration and little understanding of the inner dimensions; Mr Hoffman did not agree to such use and he could see how such reckless use could lead to a worldwide ban of holy substance.....we think
 
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#9 Posted : 7/14/2018 10:59:33 PM

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Albert Hoffman wrote:
Foreword
There are experiences that most of us are hesitant to speak about, because they do not conform to everyday reality and defy rational explanation. These are not particular external occurrences, but rather events of our inner lives, which are generally dismissed as figments of the imagination and barred from our memory. Suddenly, the familiar view of our surroundings is transformed in a strange, delightful, or alarming way: it appears to us in a new light, takes on a special meaning. Such an experience can be as light and fleeting as a breath of air, or it can imprint itself deeply upon our minds.

One enchantment of that kind, which I experienced in childhood, has remained remarkably vivid in my memory ever since. It happened on a May morning - I have forgotten the year - but I can still point to the exact spot where it occurred, on a forest path on Martinsberg above Baden, Switzerland. As I strolled through the freshly greened woods filled with bird song and lit up by the morning sun, all at once everything appeared in an uncommonly clear light. Was this something I had simply failed to notice before? Was I suddenly discovering the spring forest as it actually looked? It shone with the most beautiful radiance, speaking to the heart, as though it wanted to encompass me in its majesty. I was filled with an indescribable sensation of joy, oneness, and blissful security.

I have no idea how long I stood there spellbound. But I recall the anxious concern I felt as the radiance slowly dissolved and I hiked on: how could a vision that was so real and convincing, so directly and deeply felt - how could it end so soon? And how could I tell anyone about it, as my overflowing joy compelled me to do, since I knew there were no words to describe what I had seen? It seemed strange that I, as a child, had seen something so marvelous, something that adults obviously did not perceive - for I had never heard them mention it.

While still a child, I experienced several more of these deeply euphoric moments on my rambles through forest and meadow. It was these experiences that shaped the main outlines of my world view and convinced me of the existence of a miraculous, powerful, unfathomable reality that was hidden from everyday sight.

I was often troubled in those days, wondering if I would ever, as an adult, be able to communicate these experiences; whether I would have the chance to depict my visions in poetry or paintings. But knowing that I was not cut out to be a poet or artist, I assumed I would have to keep these experiences to myself, important as they were to me.

Unexpectedly - though scarcely by chance - much later, in middle age, a link was established between my profession and these visionary experiences from childhood.

Because I wanted to gain insight into the structure and essence of matter, I became a research chemist. Intrigued by the plant world since early childhood, I chose to specialize in research on the constituents of medicinal plants. In the course of this career I was led to the psychoactive, hallucination-causing substances, which under certain conditions can evoke visionary states similar to the spontaneous experiences just described. The most important of these hallucinogenic substances has come to be known as LSD. Hallucinogens, as active compounds of considerable scientific interest, have gained entry into medicinal research, biology, and psychiatry, and later - especially LSD also obtained wide diffusion in the drug culture.

In studying the literature connected with my work, I became aware of the great universal significance of visionary experience. It plays a dominant role, not only in mysticism and the history of religion, but also in the creative process in art, literature, and science. More recent investigations have shown that many persons also have visionary experiences in daily life, though most of us fail to recognize their meaning and value. Mystical experiences, like those that marked my childhood, are apparently far from rare.

There is today a widespread striving for mystical experience, for visionary breakthroughs to a deeper, more comprehensive reality than that perceived by our rational, everyday consciousness. Efforts to transcend our materialistic world view are being made in various ways, not only by the adherents to Eastern religious movements, but also by professional psychiatrists, who are adopting such profound spiritual experiences as a basic therapeutic principle.

I share the belief of many of my contemporaries that the spiritual crisis pervading all spheres of Western industrial society can be remedied only by a change in our world view. We shall have to shift from the materialistic, dualistic belief that people and their environment are separate, toward a new consciousness of an all-encompassing reality, which embraces the experiencing ego, a reality in which people feel their oneness with animate nature and all of creation.

Everything that can contribute to such a fundamental alteration in our perception of reality must therefore command earnest attention. Foremost among such approaches are the various methods of meditation, either in a religious or a secular context, which aim to deepen the consciousness of reality by way of a total mystical experience. Another important, but still controversial, path to the same goal is the use of the consciousness-altering properties of hallucinogenic psychopharmaceuticals. LSD finds such an application in medicine, by helping patients in psychoanalysis and psychotherapy to perceive their problems in their true significance.

Deliberate provocation of mystical experience, particularly by LSD and related hallucinogens, in contrast to spontaneous visionary experiences, entails dangers that must not be underestimated. Practitioners must take into account the peculiar effects of these substances, namely their ability to influence our consciousness, the innermost essence of our being. The history of LSD to date amply demonstrates the catastrophic consequences that can ensue when its profound effect is misjudged and the substance is mistaken for a pleasure drug. Special internal and external advance preparations are required; with them, an LSD experiment can become a meaningful experience. Wrong and inappropriate use has caused LSD to become my problem child.

It is my desire in this book to give a comprehensive picture of LSD, its origin, its effects, and its dangers, in order to guard against increasing abuse of this extraordinary drug. I hope thereby to emphasize possible uses of LSD that are compatible with its characteristic action. I believe that if people would learn to use LSD's vision-inducing capability more wisely, under suitable conditions, in medical practice and in conjunction with meditation, then in the future this problem child could become a wonder child.

"Your destiny and the destiny of every living being is to be who you truly are; divine beings full of love and light. Your purpose, and the purpose of every living being, is to heal, serve and love unconditionally in your own unique way." ~Don Juanito~
 
Aum_Shanti
#10 Posted : 7/15/2018 10:41:15 AM
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@DmnStr8:

Yep, this one I also know. But quite a different context than that he wanted to call it the wonderchild from the beginning, but was adviced due to cultural/political/economic reasons not to do so.
I claim not that this is the truth. As this is just what got manifested into my mind at the current position in time on this physical plane. So please feel not offended by anything I say.
 
 
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